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Amon_Amarth
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7/31/07 9:52am
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Raven posted:
Strange thought: Snape might not be dead.
Crazy, I know. After all, there was a body. But consider: Snape is one of the greatest potion brewers alive. With a combination of a Draught of Living Death, Felix Felicis, and a suitable antidote, Snape might have survived. Essentially, Snape might have realized that the end was nigh, and so decided not to take chances. He would have first used a Felix Felicis. Then, Felix would lead him to bring a suitable antidote, and drink a Draught of Living Death, brewed to take effect after some time, rather than immediately. And so, when he died, it was the Draught just taking effect. And once everyone was gone, he could have left.
The only reason it occured to me was that I was wondering why his portrait wasn't on the wall in the Headmasters office. Of course it wouldn't appear, if he was alive!
Very interesting thought.  But I'm not sure if we'll ever find that out for sure. I mean, this was the final book.
On the second thought, there is Harry's son; Albus Severus Potter. All of Harry's children are named after dead people.
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Darth_Omega
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Raven posted:
Strange thought: Snape might not be dead.
Crazy, I know. After all, there was a body. But consider: Snape is one of the greatest potion brewers alive. With a combination of a Draught of Living Death, Felix Felicis, and a suitable antidote, Snape might have survived. Essentially, Snape might have realized that the end was nigh, and so decided not to take chances. He would have first used a Felix Felicis. Then, Felix would lead him to bring a suitable antidote, and drink a Draught of Living Death, brewed to take effect after some time, rather than immediately. And so, when he died, it was the Draught just taking effect. And once everyone was gone, he could have left.
The only reason it occured to me was that I was wondering why his portrait wasn't on the wall in the Headmasters office. Of course it wouldn't appear, if he was alive!
There's no portrait on the wall because he abandon his headmaster post before he died and therefore doesn't deserve a painting 
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darth_paul
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leia_naberrie posted:
NYCitygurl posted:
My mom said that the news was saying that there would be three minor deaths and one major one. Turned out there were more than three minor ones, and no major one.
I thought that if one of the three got killed off, it would be Ron or Harry. I didn't think she'd kill off Hermione.
Well, I think Lupin, Fred and Snape count as major deaths...
Not to mention Voldemort! It hardly gets more major than that.
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I was about to throw the book into the lake after Snape's death, i thought it was a horrible way to go and wanted an explanation. But the book saved itself with the next chapter.
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darth_paul posted:
leia_naberrie posted:
NYCitygurl posted:
My mom said that the news was saying that there would be three minor deaths and one major one. Turned out there were more than three minor ones, and no major one.
I thought that if one of the three got killed off, it would be Ron or Harry. I didn't think she'd kill off Hermione.
Well, I think Lupin, Fred and Snape count as major deaths...
Not to mention Voldemort! It hardly gets more major than that.
-Paul
I meant the main three!!!
And Voldemort's the bad guy, which makes him outside of the major vs. minor consideration
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I would count Lupin and Snape as the major deaths, with Dobby and the others being minor ones.
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So which death SURPRISED everyone the most?
For me, the most surprising death was actually Hedwig. How could she kill the poor bird, and so soon?!?  And Tonks's death was a big surprise to me too.
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I had not expected Fred. After George getting injured I thought Fred was safe.
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Dobby and Fred were the biggest surprises for me.
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Darth_Omega posted:
Raven posted:
Strange thought: Snape might not be dead.
Crazy, I know. After all, there was a body. But consider: Snape is one of the greatest potion brewers alive. With a combination of a Draught of Living Death, Felix Felicis, and a suitable antidote, Snape might have survived. Essentially, Snape might have realized that the end was nigh, and so decided not to take chances. He would have first used a Felix Felicis. Then, Felix would lead him to bring a suitable antidote, and drink a Draught of Living Death, brewed to take effect after some time, rather than immediately. And so, when he died, it was the Draught just taking effect. And once everyone was gone, he could have left.
The only reason it occured to me was that I was wondering why his portrait wasn't on the wall in the Headmasters office. Of course it wouldn't appear, if he was alive!
There's no portrait on the wall because he abandon his headmaster post before he died and therefore doesn't deserve a painting
According to Jo (from the recent chat), he did get a portrait eventually because of Harry.
Laura Trego: Was the absence of snapes portrait in the headmasters office in the last scene innocent or deliberate
J.K. Rowling: It was deliberate. Snape had effectively abandoned his post before dying, so he had not merited inclusion in these august circles.
J.K. Rowling: However, I like to think that Harry would be instrumental in ensuring that Snape's portrait would appear there in due course.
I always knew one of the twins would die so although I hated it, Fred's death came as no surprise to me. Ditto with Hedwig; only I thought Harry would own Fawkes
This is what Jo said about Hedwig's death...
Twinkletoes: Why did you feel that hedwigs death was necessary
J.K. Rowling: The loss of Hedwig represented a loss of innocence and security. She has been almost like a cuddly toy to Harry at times. Voldemort killing her marked the end of childhood. I'm sorry... I know that death upset a LOT of people!
I thought Lupin would survive; so his and Tonks's deaths were surprising. I also didn't expect Dobby to die. That was really sudden. I also thought Snape would live or at least get a chance to talk to Harry (the "Take this" and "Look at me" don't count!)
The chat got a few interesting questions answered, if someone wants to have a look...
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NYCitygurl
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Hedwig surprised me and so, I think, did Dobby. Mad-Eye was a bit of a surprise as well since it happened so quickly and at the beginning. Fred was a surprise as well.
IMO, Lupin and Tonks were goners the moment Harry became Teddy's godfather.
I thought that Snape might die, but, like others, I figured that he would get a chance to talk to Harry.
And since POA I've been waiting for Wormtail's heroic moment of saving Harry. That it was an accident after which he quickly died was a bit of a downer.
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Yeah, I definitely thought Dementors, Werewolves, Lupin, and Wormtail would play a bigger role in the last book. And maybe a reappearance of the Time-Turner. Now it seems PoA really didn't do much to the larger series, except Wormtail going to find Voldemort, and Harry learning about Sirius. It almost seems as if it would be better now if Harry did let Wormtail be killed by Sirius and Lupin.
And DH question:
-Did having his blood in Voldemort's new body make Harry completely invulnerable to death (kind of like a horcrux, without the murder and splitting souls part),
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did it just mean Voldemort couldn't kill him, but other people and things still could have,
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that protecting only worked once, only letting Voldemort's horcrux be destroyed, but next time there would be nothing to stop an AK from Voldemort from killing Harry???
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I thought that since the books have made such a big deal about how Dementors can suck out your soul that they'd have a role in destroying the Horcruxes. Oh well.
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timmoishere posted:
I thought that since the books have made such a big deal about how Dementors can suck out your soul that they'd have a role in destroying the Horcruxes. Oh well.
Or turn on Voldemort, sucking out the rest of his soul. Wormtail and the Dementors really do seem to be one giant elaborate red herring set up by Jo!
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timmoishere posted:
I thought that since the books have made such a big deal about how Dementors can suck out your soul that they'd have a role in destroying the Horcruxes. Oh well.
Yeah, well, they can't really suck a soul out of an inanimate object, can't they?
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