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Master-FatBurt Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 7/13/06 2:09am Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	I really don't like the sound of this. I knew they were looking at finishing off the Dune books as Frank did have a plan to tie it all up and bring a true resolution to the series. A Paul and Jessica Ghola????? Come on I really can see Frank having that in his planning notes. -----signature----- rules are meant to be broken All Bluebirds are Blue COME ON BARRA!!
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chrisfree Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 7/13/06 11:16pm Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	Weird. What I gathered from Chapter House was that nobody ever wanted a Kwisatz Haderach any longer. Having a ghola of Paul would make no sense at all... Actually, it would if they wanted to write a few more books after that one. Paul's too much of a character for one book, imo. If this was it I'll call it character assasination. -----signature----- Padawan to Jedi_Jimbo SW quote nerf
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Lord_Vivec Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 7/17/06 2:31pm Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	I don't know if you have heard or not, but Hunters of Dune is coming out in August and Sandworms of Dune will be coming out later on. They are the sequel to Chapterhouse Dune and are based on the outline written by Frank Herbert before he died. linkie -----signature----- EUS Vice Chancellor "I believe the proper analogy involves a river of excrement and a Native American vessel without any means of propulsion." -Sheldon Gavin Newsom for CA Gov '10!
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RedHanded_Jill Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 7/18/06 7:46am Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	i remember finding this series in college and falling deeply in love with it only to discover that herbert had died just months before. man i was crushed. does anyone see the similiarity between luke/jacen and paul/leto? luke and paul both know what has to be done to ensure peace and stability in the universe but are unable to do it. their son/nephew comes along and takes the path. while i couldnt wait for the first book from son/anderson in the dune series i was so disappointed. it was not on any level near the original but i read them because frank's vision was at least somewhat visible. i knew they were working on the next one after chapterhouse but i am with you vivec. could frank have really wanted to bring back jessica and paul as gholas? what would be the point? a do over? -----signature----- Life is a highway... And I want to drive it all nite long.
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Gonk Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 8/12/06 12:03pm Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	I LOVE Dune. It's quite simply the second most authentic universe ever created (Middle-Earth still ranks above it I think). It simply breaks all the rules and inverts everything, where the first book is really the most epic and the focus sort of shrinks afterward. Even more astonishing is the fact that, as you read, VERY LITTLE action takes place "on-screen". Dune would actually probably be better adapted as a play than a movie: the movie keeps needing to expand on things Herbert described, but most of what happens is really conversations between characters. The great battles are not described from the POV of somone in the conflict. Raids are not immersed in. There's little in the way of active explosions, and more in the way of, when it comes to it, only one person killing another in private battle or assassination. The only theatrical sequence would really be Feyd's battle in the arena on Geidi Prime. Unfortunately, after reading such writers as Harlan Ellison and even Alan Moore in comics, I've come to see some of the weaknesses of Herbert. He can't write characters very well: they all feel very similar. They're ALL cunning, resourceful, political beings. It's facinating to drive the plot, but after a while it gets old. It no longer feels special when every character is a cunning plotter the understands the subtleties of galactic politics. The only person that seems to be wanting is Rabban, and the contrast there seems clumsy. -----signature----- What shall we do to fill the empty spaces Where waves of hunger gnaw? Shall we set out upon this sea of faces In search of more and more and more?
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mrsvos Registered: Nov '05	Date Posted: 8/16/06 7:24am Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	We got Hunters of Dune at my store yesterday - but we can't sell it until next week - got to check it out a little though - looking forward to it! Was tempted to post the inside dust jacket synopsis.... -----signature----- I finks I broke mah liver.
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Lord_Vivec Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 8/16/06 8:17am Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	Was tempted to post the inside dust jacket synopsis.... Do it! Do it now! Hurry! -----signature----- EUS Vice Chancellor "I believe the proper analogy involves a river of excrement and a Native American vessel without any means of propulsion." -Sheldon Gavin Newsom for CA Gov '10!
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mrsvos Registered: Nov '05	Date Posted: 8/16/06 9:47am Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	Can't now, how's Friday? - I'll run by work and make a copy of it. -----signature----- I finks I broke mah liver.
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Lord_Vivec Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 8/16/06 9:56am Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	mrsvos posted: Can't now, how's Friday? - I'll run by work and make a copy of it. Yay!!!!!!!! -----signature----- EUS Vice Chancellor "I believe the proper analogy involves a river of excrement and a Native American vessel without any means of propulsion." -Sheldon Gavin Newsom for CA Gov '10!
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NYCitygurl Title: Generally Out to Lunch Manager: SFFBC, C&G, NSWFF Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 8/16/06 12:07pm Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	Just be sure to black it out, because it's a spoiler. -----signature----- "Not till the moon falls. Not till the world ends."
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mrsvos Registered: Nov '05	Date Posted: 8/17/06 12:06pm Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	SPOILER From the dust jacket of Hunters of Dune - on sale Tuesday. Hunters of Dune and the concluding volume, Sandworms of Dune, bring together the great story lines and beloved characters in Frank Herberts classic Dune universe, ranging from the time of the Butlerian Jihad to the original Dune series and beyond. Based directly on Frank Herbert's final outline, which lay hidden in safe deposit boxes for a decade, these two volumes will finally answer the urgent questions Dune fans have been debating for two decades. At the end of Chapterhouse:Dune, Frank Herbet's final novel, a ship carrying the ghola of Duncan Idaho, Sheena ( ayoung woman who can control the sandworms), and a crew of various refugees escapes into the uncharted galaxy, fleeing the monstrous Honored Matres, dark counterparts to the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood. The nearly invincible Honored Matres have swarmed into the known universe, driven from their home by a terrifiying, mysterious Enemy. As designed by the creative genius of Frank Herbert, the primary story of Hunters and Sandworms is the exotic odyssey of Duncans no-ship as it is forced to elude the diabolical traps set by the ferocious, unknown enemy. To strenghten their forces, the fugitives have used gentic technology from Scytale, the last Tleilaxu Master, to revive key figures from Dune's past, including Paul Maud'Dib and his beloved Chani, Lady Jessica,Stilgar,Thufir Hawat ans even Dr. Wellington Yueh. Each of these characters will use their special talents to meet the chalanges thrown at them. Failure is unthinkable-not only is their survival at stake, but they hold the fate of the entire human race in their hands. This breathtaking new novel in Frank Herbert's Dune series has enough surprises, characters, and plot twists to please even the most demanding reader. -----signature----- I finks I broke mah liver.
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Lord_Vivec Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 8/17/06 12:10pm Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	Thank you!! -----signature----- EUS Vice Chancellor "I believe the proper analogy involves a river of excrement and a Native American vessel without any means of propulsion." -Sheldon Gavin Newsom for CA Gov '10!
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rumsmuggler Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 8/17/06 1:24pm Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	Wow, that sounds interesting. I need to read The Battle of Corrin and re read Heretics and Chapterhouse before I jump to that one. -----signature----- " Conan, what's best in life?" " Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women." W.W.L.D. What Would Lando Do "Why is the rum always gone?" Retcons = making the dumb stuff look even dumber.
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Lord_Vivec Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 8/17/06 1:44pm Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert
	rumsmuggler posted: Wow, that sounds interesting. I need to read The Battle of Corrin and re read Heretics and Chapterhouse before I jump to that one. You've got five days. Good luck! -----signature----- EUS Vice Chancellor "I believe the proper analogy involves a river of excrement and a Native American vessel without any means of propulsion." -Sheldon Gavin Newsom for CA Gov '10!
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rumsmuggler Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 8/17/06 2:49pm Subject: RE: Sands of Arrakis: The Works of Frank Herbert - Date Edited: 8/17/06 2:51pm (1 edits total) Edited By: rumsmuggler
	I don't plan on doing it right away, but if i had the money to buy the new novel, and had my dune novels with me, five days wouldn't be a much of a problem. I can read freakishly fast. All of my funds are going towards tution, parking permit for my university, and insanely expensive books for my classes. -----signature----- " Conan, what's best in life?" " Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women." W.W.L.D. What Would Lando Do "Why is the rum always gone?" Retcons = making the dumb stuff look even dumber.
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