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CyberFaust
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2/18/06 3:21am
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hey guys in Faust i am a verry big fantasy fan (lotr, witchblade, and more)i hope I'l post a lot here lately
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arwen_sith
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3/27/06 11:24pm
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You might guess by my nick here that I'm a fan... I've read LotR about twice a year since Christmas 2001. I saw FotR before reading the book, but the others I read before the movies. I read The Hobbit in a Swedish translation as a kid, but I must admit I don't remember much of it.
I've been wanting to get my hands on The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, though.
I love the way Tolkien uses language, a true wordsmith if there ever was one.
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Strilo
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I actually took a Tolkien Studies course at my University, taught by a published Tolkien scholar. That was amazing.
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Interesting, tell us about it. How objective was the lecturer? Was dissent to LOTR tolerated? I find many teachers don't favour disagreement to their opinions, strangley.
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Strilo
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In a lecture based course, there's not a lot of room for dissent. And what type of disagreement would you be having? I thought the professor was fantastic. She knew so much more than just LOTR or Tolkien. She knew about languages, she knew about mythology in both Celtic and Norse circles, she knew philology and of course knew the Tolkien material extremely well. There was some discussion that did happen and I thought it was all very interesting, multi-faceted and open to other opinions.
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You're lucky in that case. I had some Jedi Masters who thought their opinion was the law, based in their seemingly insurmountable life and academic experience. We had some great times, when I refused to rule by a confined process of thinking. In simple words: I frowned their snouts with a diverse view. Still, I got the score I wanted, so all's well that ends well.
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Alcareru
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I love the world Tolkien created. I've read half of the Silmarillion, the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings. I find the world of Middle Earth, the history of the peoples, the languages and the stories themselves to be the most compelling thing about the whole Tolkien thing. As an author I think his style can be a bit troublesome at times. But overall I think the man was quite talented and really created something interesting and unique out of the collective mythological past of mankind.
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Discerning fans and literary scholars seem to love " The Silmarillion " more than anything else about Middle Earth and for the most part I agree. At the very least I think the most pivotal character in the entire hisrory of Tolkiens' world is Feanor - not Frodo or Aragorn.
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I think that the stories in the Silmarillion are fascinating... the writing style is a bit... not fascinating. That makes it a tough read. But the creativity of the whole world and its history is really quite the accomplishment from Tolkien.
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I think it mostly due to the fact that the book was never really finished, and some of the chapters are mostly the raw material that was only to be made into an actual story. Those are the parts that are so similar to a history book.
A shame we will never read the Silmarillion in a form that it was meant to be by Tolkien.
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Severian,
I totally agree with you about Feanor. I've always seen him as the strongest of all the Elves ever born. I always forget that he is Galadriel's uncle.
I don't know if it is a reason or not, or even if the Elves know for that matter. But I like to think that their hatred might go back even further. The elves were supposed to be the first born but in all actuality the Dwarves were awaken first. Only by Eru were they put back to sleep to allow the Elves to be first born.
Sauron is nothing compared to Morgoth. Unlike Sauron, Morgoth cannot be destroyed. He is I believe still imprisoned by the Valar.
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jag29 posted:
Severian,
I totally agree with you about Feanor. I've always seen him as the strongest of all the Elves ever born. I always forget that he is Galadriel's uncle.
I don't know if it is a reason or not, or even if the Elves know for that matter. But I like to think that their hatred might go back even further. The elves were supposed to be the first born but in all actuality the Dwarves were awaken first. Only by Eru were they put back to sleep to allow the Elves to be first born.
Sauron is nothing compared to Morgoth. Unlike Sauron, Morgoth cannot be destroyed. He is I believe still imprisoned by the Valar.
Jag29
Yeah - his constant ambition and hatred render Morgoth into a mortal, basically, sort of a pariah of the Valar forever. Im glad someone agrees with me about Feanor, the Moses and Exodus symbolism makes him Tolkiens greatest and most complexed creation IMO ( even moreso than Gollum or the hobbits ), whose actions have the greatest ramifications to the entire Middle Earth/Valinor Saga.
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That is very very true. I also agree about Feanor. His character is very complex and interesting.
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Feänor is a very complex character, I really liked him. Considering his power and his strong emotions, he is something like Anakin of Tolkien's world.
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Sorry, but I find the comparison offending. For Feanor, of course. He may have been born only to fulfill his destiny of leading the Elves out to the Middle Earth (that's a separate topic to discuss), but at least he seemed to do things on his own, and by his own will. He was led by emotions, but strong-willed and consistent too. One can not admire everything he's commited, but must at least admit HE did that.
While Anakin seems to kind of go with the flow, and for me personally, is a wimp compared to Feanaro. He's a child until the very end, and is just playing a role in his own life, instead of doing anything by himself.
And, of course, Finwe >>> midichlorians.
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