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yankee8255
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Amon_Amarth posted:
It#s an incredible tale, on the one hand you can totally understand his pride, on the other you want to smack him silly for letting Morgoth play him.
Yeah. Feänor is a perfect good/bad guy character. People love him and hate him and the same time. I was on his side and I was kind of cheering for his sons because I understanded their oath, but then again, I didn't aproove a lot of their actions and their irrational behaviour.
The stories of his sons is the perfect warning against blindly following an oath. Tremendous how that thread is woven throw so many of the subsequent tales.
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Yo_Raja
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Ah, anytime things seem to be settled at last and I hope everyone will live happily everafter, the oath comes up and ruins everything.
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KILIK
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The movies are really great I think, but the books well I have to read them.
Yeah I started out as a fan of the movies but I just think the books well be better.
I was also wandering if anyone here knew of good place to find info one the events of the 4th age.
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Kyptastic
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What, 4th age of the Trees or of the Sun? 
To be serious, Tolkien never got round to writing much about the 4th age. He was considering doing a story about Gondors decline 100 years after the War of the Ring, but decided not to.
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yankee8255
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About the only source of info re the 4th Age (ie post-LOTR) I know of is the time line appendix to LOTR.
On another topic, I've read that Jackson would like to do a HObbit movie, but that there's a problem with the rights ownership. Which go me thinking, what about a tale from the Silmarrilion, like Beren and Luthien. I'd actually prefer to see that.
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NO WAI! I don't want Jackson to put his hands on Silmarillion! 
About Hobbit movie, I hear it was McKellen who was pushing the producers do make it, since he loved Gandalf's character so much. He wanted it to be tv series, so that it could resemble the story exactly (*cough* Arwen in Helm's Deep *cough*).
I think it's quite fine idea.
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Would the Hobbit fit into a three hour movie?
If they tried, they would probably have to cut the trolls, much of what happens in Mirkwood, and, because they (naturally) would extend the battle of five armies, it would compress everything else.
A miniseries is sounding better and better.
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I was reading the Silmarrilion alittle bit of it. Its hard to read do you guys got any advice?
As for question about the forth age I got it taken care of.
And the Hobbit movie, well... All I got to say, is I just stared reading. Yeah i'm to it. Be I just love it. I put it down to not read it to fast. Its that good!  As i'm sure alot of not all of you now that. 
I do not think the Hobbit should be made into a movie. I say that cause, well not only is it a great book, but people in this day and age at least around me. Don't read enough, they just don't. So they just wait for the movie to come out. I guess if its made into a movie it won't be the end of the world.
Now I won't lie when I say I frist got into LOTR when the movies came out. But after picking up the fellowship for only a minute or two. The book just seemed better then movie. All thou I have yet to read the whole thing. It sounded really good. So I guess my list is the Hobbit, then the Silmarrilion or the 4 books i'm not sure which order yet.
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Its hard to read do you guys got any advice?
It picks up steam as it goes. When you reach the end you'll be rereading the beginning. FotR is similar in that respect.
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It was tough to start I think. But it's really cool once you get the hang of the story telling.
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Raja posted:
NO WAI! I don't want Jackson to put his hands on Silmarillion!
Yeah, I agree. Just looks at the Two Tower. Elves in the Helms Deep?!?!? Puh-lease! imagine if Jackson did the Silmarillion - orcs enjoying a nice walk in Doriath. *sigh*
The Silmarillion should be done as a documentary.
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The sight of elves in Helm's Deep was so unecessary. It was outrageous to change a so brilliant novel such as one of the works of great Tolkien. Jackson shouldn't be very proud with his work. King Kong sucked. he is overrated as a director.
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That and the exclusion of The Scouring Of The Shire. Thats Jackson pushing his own world ideology into the story. But those two things, while they may not seem like a big deal to alot of people - especially people who only saw the movie, are a HUGE deal in the book.
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I am a reader. I love to read.
This was one author I STILL have a hard time with, as many times as I start and keep trying to get through. I do that because I know it is an excellent story. I was rather excited for the movies because at least then I could catch up with the "basics" because yes, they really are there.
Are there any others that are still and will always be working to give Tolkien all the chances he deserves to reach a hard headed brain, and LOVE the discussion between those smart enough to "get it" like me?
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Some parts of the Silmarillion would lose out if you put it all as a documentary though. The tale of Beren and Luthien would be awesome as a movie in its own right, for example.
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