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Darth_Omega Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 4/10/07 3:00am Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	I'm secretly hoping for Buffy and Xander pairing but at the end I know it won't work out like all relationships in Buffy and Angel. darth-sinister posted: I must be the only one on here who recognized Andrew right off. Nope I recognized him as well, although he did look a bit freaky.
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 4/11/07 11:45pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	"Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Bad Bargain" by Diana G. Gallagher. Friday evening at Sunnydale High, the school is readying for it's annual fundraiser for the school's band. One year before the infamous incident caused by Ethan Rayne, there was the rummage sale in the cafeteria. Unfortunately, what no one realizes is that a young student named Michael has created a charm to protect himself from the nasties of the Hellmouth and it was tossed in with the donations made by his mother. And in an effort to find it, Michael uses a retrieval spell which will bring the item back to him. The downside is that with the Hellmouth weakened by the Master's escape, supernatural forces from the Hellmouth come out and start unleashing chaos. In a day's time, people are affected. Xander has a vest that won't let go, Willow has a mysterious cuddily creature that's controling her, Andrew is being chased by a whip weilding Jonathan, Snyder has holes in his head, Cordellia & Harmony have beauty issues and Joyce has the worst case of dry skin. To make matters worse, Spike is trapped in the basement with Drusillia who has been bit by Hellmouth Vampire bats that are turning her into a giant bat. Now Buffy, Giles and Jenny must keep the school contained and fix this mess. The story isn't too bad. It's quick and simple, but has some great moments including those with Jonathan and Andrew. The Mayor is refered to throughout especially as he wants an item which as we know, belonged to his "father", which means that he had lost it long ago and can collect it from Joyce. The Hellmouth's involvement works within the context of the show and doesn't really violate continuity. The downside of this book is that the author messed up the continuity. Numerous references are made to Xander and Cordellia's relationship, but Spike has yet to restore Drusillia and Angel still has his soul. That aside, the story's good and I recommend it. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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Healer_Leona Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 4/12/07 1:45pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	Sounds pretty intersting. I'll have to see if I can reserve it at the library. -----signature----- To me, you're strange and you're beautiful, You'd be so perfect with me but you just can't see, You turn every head but you don't see me.
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 4/26/07 10:37pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	IDWEEK: BRIAN LYNCH TALKS SPIKE AND ANGEL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by Chris Ryall When the latest Spike miniseries, Spike: Asylum, debuted in late 2006, it captivated many fans, including one in particular who would write Brian Lynch a special note of praise. That “fan”? Spike creator Joss Whedon. And the note of praise? An offer to work together to continue Angel’s story beyond “Not Fade Away,” the final episode of Angel: Season 5. You know, the episode that saw Angel and company about to engage in an apocalyptic battle in a Los Angeles alleyway. Before that tale is told, though, Brian is once again teaming up with his Asylum artist, Franco Urru, to bring about another Spike adventure. An adventure that just might see Spike “puppetized” in the same way that Angel was in the classic Season 5 episode “Smile Time.” Spike: Shadow Puppets is a four-part adventure guest-starring Lorne, some returnees from Spike: Asylum, and a cast of thousands. Thousands of ninja puppets, that is. Brian was good enough to share a bit more about Spike: Shadow Puppets as well as the upcoming Angel series… and as a special bonus, below the interview, you get an exclusive look at the first five pages of Spike: Shadow Puppets #1, along with some commentary from Lynch, too. Newsarama: Spike: Shadow Puppets, on top of everything else, is quite the team-up between Spike and Lorne. The two never really had much to say to each other in the TV show, but their interplay in the comic feels right, and works really well. What made you think they'd pair up so well? Brian Lynch: It kinda came about while I was writing Spike: Asylum and needed someone outside of the rehab facility to help Spike. Since it was established that they were near Las Vegas, I thought Lorne was an easy one to bring in. Once I started writing Spike and Lorne's dialogue together, I noticed how well they play off each other. I think it's because they're two of the funnier characters from Angel. They both enjoy taking the piss out of other characters, so if they were in a situation where they had to hang out, it was only natural they'd start digging at each other. Halfway through issue one of Shadow Puppets, the miniseries definitely becomes a "buddy picture" with Spike and Lorne being thrown together and not enjoying it. Of course, like all good buddy pictures, they form a bond by the end. Around issue three, in fact, there's a downright "nice" moment between them... until Spike realizes it's a nice moment and goes out of his way to mess it up. NRAMA: The covers seem to give away the fact that Spike, and possibly Lorne, too, get "puppetized" just as Angel did in the "Smile Time" episode. But there are some unexpected surprises and guest-stars in this series, too, aren't there? BL: Oh yes. A few Angel favorites pop up briefly in issue two, and one of the big bads working behind the scenes at Smile Time: Japan is definitely a crowd favorite. Puppet Spike is awesome and Puppet Lorne is even more awesome, but let's just say that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Puppetizing Angel characters. I hope Diamond Select Toys is paying attention; we just handed them their product line for the next few years. NRAMA: Cuter: puppies or puppets? Discuss. BL: Puppet puppies. Definitely. No wait, I'm gonna change my answer. Let's think this one through: the cutest puppy ever? One of those little wrinkle dogs, probably. Sharpei, I think they're called. Damn cute. But the cutest PUPPET ever... I'd have to go with Kermit's nephew Robin, who is WAY cuter than a Sharpei... answer: Puppets are definitely cuter. Even the Smile Time puppets are cute as hell. They're murderous demons, but they're so adorable. NRAMA: Following this 4-part tale, your next comic-book effort seems to be a dream gig for many people, and certainly for Angel fans: you're working alongside (figuratively, I mean, you're not crowding him at his desk) Joss Whedon and picking up Angel's story where it left off with the finale of the TV show. We’re talking about the project that’d had the working title of Angel: Season 6, a story Joss has dubbed “After the Fall.” How'd such a thing come about in the first place? BL: He begged and begged and begged, until I relented. That's the story I tell the ladies, anyway. The true story is, I ran into him the day before Spike: Asylum #1 came out and told him about it. A few weeks later, he e-mailed Mr. Chris Ryall and said that he enjoyed the series and that he was thinking about a post-series Angel book, and he thought I'd be right for it. I was shocked and elated. We met for breakfast, traded ideas (his were better, mine were mostly of the "what if Angel and I went to a Bachelor Party? Can you imagine the fun that would be?" variety). He also indulged me in my geeky questions, Angel and otherwise. NRAMA:I know there's not much you can say now, but will you please tell us everything? Who lives, who dies, who ends up wearing an eyepatch, and so on? BL: All the lead characters die. Or should I say, have died, when the series begins. The series is basically two new characters at a diner talking. At first the topic of conversation is this vampire with a soul that got killed in an alleyway fighting a dragon, but eventually they move onto discussions about the upcoming weekend, fixing their boat, complaining about their boss. It's pretty awesome, a real slice of life. I wish I could really tell you about Angel, but come on, you wanna be surprised, no? I will say that the whole thing feels very, very epic... but still full of those character moments that people have come to expect from Mr. Whedon. NRAMA: How do you and Joss go about plotting out the return of these (well, some of these) beloved characters? Who does what? BL: Trading e-mails back and forth. I come up with an idea, he molds it into what is called a "good" idea, I work on it some more, he works on it some more...it's really fun. Basically it's like when I was younger playing with Spider-Man action figures, but I have Stan Lee playing right next to me. Spike: Shadow Puppets #1 by Brian Lynch and Franco Urru (with variant covers by David Messina) will be available in June. Diamond Code APR07 3783. IDWEEK: JOSS WHEDON TALKS ANGEL, AFTER THE FALL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by Chris Ryall Earlier today, we talked to Brian Lynch about his second Spike series, Shadow Puppets, and talked briefly about handling Angel’s post-season 5 return. And now a few words from his comrade-at-arms, Joss Whedon. Spoil alert! (not because he’s giving anything away here, y’see—we would’ve said “spoilER alert,” then. Rather, because we just spoil you with all this great content and… oh, why are you wasting time reading this inane intro when the actual Q&A is waiting for you in the very next sentence? Newsarama: When word broke that you planned to partner with writer Brian Lynch and continue Angel’s adventures where the final episode left off, the decision was met with pretty unanimous praise. But do you feel any pressure about picking up from what many fans regard as the perfect ending to a TV show? Joss Whedon: Actually, a lot of people thought it was a cliffhanger, so they can't be too sad. NRAMA: Fans seem very concerned about “official canon” (which is something Brian references in a very funny way in issue #1 of his Spike: Shadow Puppets in June. Do you understand the uproar? What does “canon” mean to you? JW: Canon is key, as is continuity. If you are massive nerd. Which I am. I believe there's a demarcation between the creation and ancillary creations by different people. I'm all for that stuff, just like fanfic, but I like to know what's there's an absolutely official story-so-far, especially when something changes mediums, which my stuff seems to do a lot. NRAMA: What was it about Brian Lynch’s work on Spike: Asylum that got you thinking he’d be the right person to develop this book with you? JW: The voices. Not just of the characters from the show but everybody. I knew from the moment [at the beginning of Asylum] Spike took the job he didn't want because the guys thought he was Angel and he felt pissy that this was gonna happen with Brian. I even emailed Tim Minear about it that night. NRAMA: Along the lines of “why him,” let’s also look at “why now?” Did your work on the Buffy comic book rekindle a desire to revisit these characters? Or had you always planned to get back to them at some point? JW: Brian gets the cred. I ran into him at a restaurant and Asylum was coming out that day so I figured, gotta read it. Read it. See above. I can't make the same kind of commitment that I'm making to Buffy, but I thought Brian could handle being the show-runner with continued input—and a basic rundown on where were heading—from me. NRAMA: Without spoiling anything, can you give fans any idea of what they can expect to see, or not see, in the comic? JW: Season six—that is, the storyline we were planning to pursue—made much more epic and fleshed out quite a bit. We're looking at it as a 12-issue miniseries, to keep it tight and intense. Brian and I have been exchanging juicy ideas. And some that are more bran-y. For health. NRAMA: Finally, when the show itself ended, did you have an idea in your head of where things would go? Did you know all along who would, or wouldn’t, survive that fight in the alley? JW: I've always known exactly, unless someone brings me a better idea. (It was Jeff Bell and the Angel staff who pitched me Wesley's death—once we knew we'd got the chop.) The better idea makes it to the canon. But the line up is pretty much what I planned. It's not pretty. I'm pretty. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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Healer_Leona Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 4/27/07 12:18pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	Damn, this is only going to turn me into a comic geek all the more faster. (faster?) -----signature----- To me, you're strange and you're beautiful, You'd be so perfect with me but you just can't see, You turn every head but you don't see me.
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 4/28/07 11:30am Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	"Unnatural Selection" by Mel Odom. One night while baby sitting the Campbell child, Willow suspects soemthing supernatural is in the home and when she goes to check on her charge, she finds him possessed by an entity connected to the domovoi. A Russian faeire sect that wants to stop the destruction of Weatherly Park, which Mr. Campbell is planning to build an amusement park in it's place. Fearful for the child, Willow contacts the rest of the Scoobies to try and stop the domovoi. Willow is told that if she does not stop the construction, the child will die. Racked with guilt, Willow sets off to try and stop Mr. Campbell, but Giles soon discovers the reason the domovoi are so protective of Weatherly Park. This story is set during season three and is one of the first post season three novels printed. Mel Odom crafts a simple tale here, showing off his talents which he will continue to excel at with future Buffy and Angel installments. We are given early hints at Willow's potential as a witch and see how protective she can be. I recommend this book. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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Healer_Leona Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/4/07 4:04pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	Okay newest Buffy was a good one. Certainly start out right with that pic from Buffy's dream. Laughed like crazy at Andrew's circumstance and couldn't help but think, "You wish!" The end, ha!!! Never saw that coming and had to wait while my daughter read it in the car again and ooohed and ahhhed it! Excellent issue. Also loving that it looks to be a long issue series. start multipying 2.99 x 40 issues -----signature----- To me, you're strange and you're beautiful, You'd be so perfect with me but you just can't see, You turn every head but you don't see me.
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hansen Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 5/5/07 3:56pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	Being a big fan of good (surrealistic) dream sequences, this issue was probably my favorite yet. It was also great to finally have Buffy, Xander and Willow together again (great dialogue between these three). Ethan appearing in Buffy's dream was muchg more of a surprise to me than the final reveal of Amy's "boyfriend". I wonder though, if Ethan himself is actually involved or whether he's purely from the subconcious of Buffy... Will be interesting when we find out who kissed Buffy. Personally, I hope it was Xander, and desperately don't want it to be Willow. Don't know anything about the other slayers to care if it was any of them... Another great issue, can't wait for our first arc-resolution next month! -----signature----- Hansen: An "Oct 01" in disguise... http://youtube.com/profile?user=Hansen85
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 5/6/07 9:59am Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	I'll be doing my review soon. But I gotta admit that I had a pretty good peg as to Amy's companion. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 5/7/07 11:09pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	"Buffy The Vampire Slayer: The Long Way Home" part 3 Our story resumes with Buffy in the dream state being visited by Ethan Rayne. Ethan has come to warn Buffy about Amy and her ally. Meanwhile, Willow and Amy battle it out with Dawn lending a hand. Or I should say, a foot. Willow then informs Xander, Dawn and the Slayers that someone will have to kiss Buffy to bring her out of the spell. But we're left to wonder who did the deed. Just as Willow is about to find out who sent Amy, Willow and Amy disappear. And an old friend makes his presence known. Meanwhile, Giles and Andrew come up with nothing solid about the mysterious symbol. Another solid issue by Whedon and company. By far one of the best moments is Buffy in her dream and when she immediately wakes up, its similar to a certain peroxide vampire in "Chosen". And the revelation/cliffhanger was very spot on as I had figured there were only two real canidates. Two characters that would make a grown man feel sick and horrified. Warren Meers definately fits that bill. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 6/16/07 12:20pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	I just picked up issue four today and will have a review forthcoming. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 6/17/07 12:22pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	Buffy The Vampire Slayer: The Long Way Home" part 4 Our story picks up with Willow learning how Warren survived being flayed alive back in season six. As Buffy tries to console Dawn, before she can mount a rescue, Willow must do her best to survive what is happening to her. Buffy discovers why she said cinnamon before she and Satsu invade the military complex where Willow is being held. In the end, Buffy learns what it is that she will have to face this year and an old "friend" makes his exit. This is the wrap-up to Joss Whedon's first story arc, with "The Chain" as a stand alone, when it hits in August. Joss once again nails all the characters while moving things along at a good pace. The backstory on Amy's boyfriend works and I could've seen it done on the television series. The mystery behind the symbol and the government is brought further into the light as now Buffy has a clue as to what's going on. My only complaint and even then I'm not sure how much of one it is, is that Willow recovers from her torture none the worse for wear. Hopefully this is a sign that she has totally recovered from her anger fits or is something that could come back later on. When the TPB comes out, I'll give a review for all four issues as I originally planned with more in-depth coverage. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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PrincessKenobi Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 7/13/07 8:40pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	Any idea when the next issue is due out? ~PK~ -----signature----- I'm the Craziest Girl On the JC!! Everybody loves me!!! Princess Shiny of the JCC Shiny Council http://www.freewebs.com/shinycouncil/ Master Beehived Chanteuse Beardi Knight House Leader of Gryffindork. I <3 You JCC Hat
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 7/14/07 12:21pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	Issue Five is in August on the 4th, I believe. I'll give the run down for the next three issues. Along with a review of the novel, "The Deathless". -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 7/18/07 12:10pm Subject: RE: Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Angel book/comic book discussion
	Issue Five. Writer: Joss Whedon Cover Artist: Jo Chen Penciller: Paul Lee Inker: Andy Owens Buffy's new position as leader and figurehead of the world's five hundred most powerful women has made her a bigger target than ever before. "The Chain" tells the story of one of the decoy "Buffy" Slayers, a tale personally important to series creator Joss Whedon. Guest artist Paul Lee (Conan, Tales of the Vampires) pencils the first standalone issue of Season Eight. Buffy creator Joss Whedon brings Buffy back to Dark Horse in this direct follow-up to season seven of the smash-hit TV series. This series secured spot #8 in Entertainment Weekly's "The Twenty Big Events of 2007." "I should probably say that it's the awesomest thing ever. I'm having so much fun." -Joss on Season Eight "Series creator Whedon effectively sucks devotees back into his Hellmouth." -Entertainment Weekly Season 8 written by Joss Whedon. Only available in comics! Publication Date: Aug 01, 2007 Format: Full color, 40 pages Price: $2.99 Issue Six. Writer: Brian K. Vaughan Cover Artist: Jo Chen Penciller: Georges Jeanty Inker: Andy Owens The second arc of our bestselling Season Eight starts here. Top creator Brian K. Vaughan (Y: The Last Man; Pride of Baghdad; Lost) takes over writing duties and dives headlong into what Faith is up to-infiltration, assassination, and nonstop Cleveland. The fugitive Slayer is given the assignment that could change her life . . . if Giles's specialized training doesn't make her want to end it first. Artist Georges Jeanty (The American Way) remains at the top of his game-and Joss Whedon stays on as Executive Producer-in this first part of "No Future for You." Buffy creator Joss Whedon brings Buffy back to Dark Horse in this direct follow-up to season seven of the smash-hit TV series. Publication Date: Sep 05, 2007 Format: Full color, 40 pages Price: $2.99 Issue Seven. Written by Brian K. Vaughan, penciled by Georges Jeanty, inked by Andy Owens, colored by Dave Stewart, cover by Jo Chen. Faith’s out to kill a Slayer. Lady Genevieve Savidge is one of the most dangerous women on the planet. If she’s left unstopped, the British heiress will usher in the apocalypse. Faith has accepted Giles’s offer of an early retirement package for this gig — but the wetworks will have to wait till she’s infiltrated Savidge’s mystically protected estate. 40 pages, $2.99, in stores on Oct. 3. "Buffy The Vampire Slayer: The Deathless." by Keith R.A. Candido. The story takes places shortly after the events of "The Zeppo" and begins with Buffy and Faith chasing after a newly risen vampire, while still nursing injuries from their fight with the Sisterhood of Jhe. Their chase takes them to a house not far from Revello when the vampire freaks out. After dusting the vamp, Buffy has a feeling that it might be another Praying Mantis. But she soon discovers alongside Willow and Giles that this is not the case, instead the owner of the house turns out to be the legendary Baba Yaga. A Russian witch who has been alive a long time. She reveals that years ago she managed to kill Koschei, an immortal of sorts who was known as the Deathless. Koschei was far more powerful than she, but she still managed to get the job done. But now, a former student of hers wants to revive the worst sorcerer ever. And to convince Buffy that if they don't let Willow help her, she will use her power to end Angel's life. As Buffy and Faith prepare to do this, nearly the entire senior class disappears after obtaining their new class rings. Now they must find out what happened to everyone, save Angel and stop Koschei's resurrection. An interesting story that fits right in with the series. Candido goes out of his way to include all the noteworthy seniors from the third season. From Larry to Percy to Jonathan. We also get a first look at the necromancy, which Willow will ultimately become proficent with it. Faith has plenty of screen time her and there are references to "Go Ask Malice", which shows her backstory. Overall this story is well worth reading. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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