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Darth-Kevin-Thomas Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 1/6/06 7:35pm Subject: Post Nuke/Apocolyptic
	This is one of my favorite Genre's to read. I currently wrote a full length screen play about a post nuke story for class and im re-writing it next semester. Any way, before i got into the full swing of re-writes, i was wondering what good books are out there that deal with this genre. One of my Fav's has alwys been Pete Franks Alas Babylon but i havn't had any luck really finding some really good stories to read. I want to get a feel on how other people treat this world. And to others that like the genre what area do you like, to more "realistic" like Alas Babylon or something more to the nature of Sci Fi like Mad Max stuff. dkt -----signature----- If I could be anything, I'd be a machine gun, becuase everytime I see you, I'm sorry I don't own one.
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NJOfan215 Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 1/7/06 9:54am Subject: RE: Post Nuke/Apocolyptic
	Well it's not a book, but jms's series jeremiah is a pretty good piece of post apocolyptic goodness. It is based on a series of french comics. -----signature----- This council has zero tolerance for any sexual deviancy regarding our Jedi Knights. Go Eagles
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Darth-Kevin-Thomas Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 1/7/06 12:25pm Subject: RE: Post Nuke/Apocolyptic
	is that a comic it's self? dkt -----signature----- If I could be anything, I'd be a machine gun, becuase everytime I see you, I'm sorry I don't own one.
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Ive_Got_Two_Legs Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 1/7/06 12:58pm Subject: RE: Post Nuke/Apocolyptic
	Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle, about a comet impact in the late 70s. It follows several groups of survivors, including a senator whose entourage has set up a habitable home in California; a group of Black Muslims that are creating a new cannibal theocracy; a group of astronauts and cosmonauts who return to Earth from a mission studying the comet; and the crew of a nuclear reactor. Also, this might not be exactly what you're looking for, but A Canticle for Liebowitz (forget the author), which follows a Catholic mission in Utah for a thousand years after a nuclear war in the 60s. The early parts would especially interest you, I think. -----signature----- "Where's your sense of optimism?" "It opted out."
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NJOfan215 Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 1/7/06 2:47pm Subject: RE: Post Nuke/Apocolyptic
	Jms's jeremiah was a tv show that was on showtime for 2 years then there was a bunch of crap, jms walked, and the show ended. The comic book jeremiah was written by hubert (?). -----signature----- This council has zero tolerance for any sexual deviancy regarding our Jedi Knights. Go Eagles
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Mastadge Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:06pm Subject: RE: Post Nuke/Apocolyptic
	I just wrote about this on my blog. Don't have time to elaborate right now, so I'll just excerpt: Mastadge posted: Anyway, I'm currently reading <a href="http://www.yvonnenavarro.com/">Yvonne Navarro</a>'s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553577492/"><i>Red Shadows</i></a>, the sequel to her <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553563602/"><i>Final Impact</i></a>. <i>Final Impact</i> was one of those epic horror novels of the end-of-the-world genre so popular between the late eighties and the late nineties. The most popular such novel, of course, is Stephen King's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0451169530/"><i>The Stand</i></a>, followed by Robert R. McCammon's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671741039/"><i>Swan Song</i></a>. Others are Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0449208133/"><i>Lucifer's Hammer</i></a>, Brian Hodge's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/155817088X/"><i>Dark Advent</i></a>, and William Brinkley's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345359828/"><i>The Last Ship</i></a>. I suppose the reason the books became so popular in these years was fear of the new millennium; in most of them, the end of the world -- by plague or nuclear war or comet or whatever -- is just the beginning, paving the way for "mutated" groups of good and evil superheroes to duke it out. Not all of them feature superheroes, though, and not all of them have a final battle -- Navarro's entry doesn't have that latter. I definitely have a weakness for these often huge, sprawling books full of fun characters. A favored genre for escapism. If you like this stuff, a similar book is Walter Jon Williams' <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061057940/"><i>The Rift</i></a>, which isn't about the end of the world but rather a huge earthquake on the New Madrid fault. And then of course there are the classics, inspired not by some fear of armageddon at the turn of the millennium but by fear of nuclear war, including George R. Stewart's 1949 <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0449213013/"><i>Earth Abides</i></a> and Pat Frank's 1959 <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060931396/"><i>Alas, Babylon</i></a> and Walter M. Miller's 1959 <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553379267/"><i>A Canticle for Leibowitz</i></a>. And then you can go back even farther to find M. P. Shiel's 1901 last-man-on-earth classic <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1872621813/"><i>The Purple Cloud</i></a>. But the King of Redonda deserves an entry of his own sometime so I'll not talk more about him now. And of course if you're discussing post-apocalyptica you'd be remiss not to mention Russell Hoban's 1980 <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0253212340/"><i>Riddley Walker</i></a> and John Wyndham's 1951 <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0812967127/"><i>The Day of the Triffids</i></a>. And now I'll stop listing titles, though there are certainly plenty more, and move on. -----signature----- "This will be our reply to violence: To make music more intensely, More beautifully, More devotedly than ever before." - Leonard Bernstein
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darth_paul Registered: Apr '00	Date Posted: 1/8/06 6:30pm Subject: RE: Post Nuke/Apocolyptic
	I concur that Alas, Babylon is an amazing book. My father, who recommended it to me, also recommended On the Beach by Nevil Shute, though I haven't gotten around to reading that yet. I agree that the genre is fascinating, and I think part of that is that it's often so character-driven. To a great extent the technology involved is the technology of right now, so authors are less tempted to spend so much time being flashy an "in the future." Rather, we get deep and interesting stories about people right now on the edge of human experience. Good stuff. -Paul -----signature----- So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
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