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RogueSquadronWingnut
Title: CR, The Rebellion, Rochester, NY
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Apr '02
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Date Posted:
12/11/07 1:18pm
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Dynamite first issue.
Great art and you can really see the splinters of the Ultimates and how far they've broken since the end of Ultimates 2.
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Darth-Lando
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12/11/07 1:29pm
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I honestly don't know what to think of this book. This first issue was dreadful. There was aboslutely no bridge between Ultimates 2 and 3. Who are Black Panther and Valkerie and why am I supposed to care about them? And why is WASP leading the team? Surely Tony, Cap, or Thor would have made better choices. This would have made a fine 2nd issue but the way they just dropped us in there was just poor writing. And the addition of Spider-Man and Wolverine (even if they've yet to show up) just makes it seem too much like New Avengers. I dunno, mayber Millar and Hitch set the bar too high, but I was kinda dissapointed by Ultimates 3.
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NJOfan215
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Date Posted:
12/11/07 7:58pm
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I like the art, but i have no idea what's going on with the book. I don't see how it has anything to do with what happened in ultimates 1 and 2. Hank sedems to be back on everyone's good side?
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Raven
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12/11/07 9:31pm
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I'm hoping that Ultimates 3 will provide the same kind of thrill as ASGDBAGDRTGDBW. I don't think that I'm going to be so lucky. For one thing, the art is terrible. Honestly, going from Hitch to this is just painful.
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chiss_man
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12/11/07 11:47pm
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One thing I'd never call this new version of Ultimates is "subtle". Not that Millar was a master of it either, but Loeb is just going to the extreme on that.
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RogueSquadronWingnut
Title: CR, The Rebellion, Rochester, NY
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12/12/07 5:14am
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Apparently this Valkyrie is the same as the one from that rookie DEFENDERS group in Ultimates 2 that Giant-Man joined up with.
Shes gone from powder puff to an actual Asgardian without much knowledge as to why.
Hawkeye is just...that poor guy just needs someone to end him.
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NJOfan215
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12/14/07 10:53am
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I think Hitch is a far better artist than mad, but i think Ultimates 3 looks better than a lot of the other books on the shelf today.
This just doesn't feel like an ultimates book to me.
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Darth-Lando
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12/14/07 11:23am
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After re-reading it, I've decided that as long as you don't try to compare it to the Ultimates 1 + 2 it's a decent book. I tend to think of Loeb as the Michael Bay of comics. He'll give you plenty of over the top action and "Oh ****!" moments, but the storytelling often leaves something to be desired.
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BartSimpson-SithLord
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12/16/07 8:14pm
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Read it.
Hated it.
Will skim the next issue to see if it is worth it. I doubt it will be though.
I mean, it was like it was trying too hard to be 616 Avengers X-TREME. Wasp leading...been done. Wanda back in her 616 outfit for no reason. F-Lister given god powers just so Thor could get laid? Ultimate Venom's appearance better have a dang good explanation. And Hawkeye here is just...argh.
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Soontir-Fel
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1/24 8:08pm
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The second issue us even more terrible then the first.
Amazing.
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Darth-Lando
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1/25 12:29am
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Jeph Loeb is the Michael Bay of comics. He's all style and no substance. And the style here isn't even that good.
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Raven
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1/25 5:56am
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As for #2:
Pencils? Awful.
Coloring? Terrible.
Plot? Where?
Dialog? Someday, there will be a word for how bad it is.
Overall? Entertaining in the same way a train derailing in the middle of a crowded city (while carrying toxic chemicals) is entertaining.
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StarscreamPrime
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1/25 5:06pm
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Soontir-Fel posted: The second issue us even more terrible then the first.
Amazing.
I'm amazed the second issue is even out. (Is there anyone that could send me a link to keep track of Marvel's new releases, since their site makes it near impossible to find that section?)
But I remember my impression of the first issue; I expected nothing great, and got just what I expected. If anything, this book reminds me of the latter-era Rob Liefeld Image imprint titles, in that it looked all nice and shiny, but had a TERRIBLE sense of exposition.
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Mastadge
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Jun '99
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1/25 5:12pm
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http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?date=2008-01
That's their January releases. Substitute the 01 for 02 for February and so forth, as far back or forward as you care to go. Alternatively, you could just keep up with a news site -- newsarama.com, comicbookresources.com, comicsbulletin.com -- they post forthcoming solicitations when they're released.
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Soontir-Fel
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1/25 6:53pm
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All Star Batman and Robin is better at being bad than this.
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Darth-Lando
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1/26 8:26am
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Mastadge posted: http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?date=2008-01
That's their January releases. Substitute the 01 for 02 for February and so forth, as far back or forward as you care to go. Alternatively, you could just keep up with a news site -- newsarama.com, comicbookresources.com, comicsbulletin.com -- they post forthcoming solicitations when they're released.
Every Monday diamondcomics.com updates their new releases section with a list of all the books from every publisher that are being shipped that week.
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