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Darth-Ghost
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5/10 10:44am
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I agree with JKR. It's just a summary of her work. Online, that's ok. But when you try to make a profit by summarizing someone else's copyrighted work, that's just cheap and wrong. It's basically making money off of JKR's work without herr permission. She's making her own encyclopedia of Harry Potter eventually anyways, which will probably have much more stuff than was ever revealed in the books.
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leia_naberrie
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RE: Orson Scott Card on J.K. Rowling's lawsuit.
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mandragora posted:
It's not like the reports mentioned the interests of Warner Bros. and the Stanford Lawyers in this case before Rowling pulled that stunt in the court.
 Well, the (I'm guessing media) reports did mention the parties involved but as usual, this was eclipsed by the "personal interest" angle that the media usually prefer to adopt with Entertainment news. And Rowling's and SVA's tears fuelled that personal interest angle.
mandragora posted:
O.S. Card, the new attorney advocating the interests homosexuals. Please, give me a break.
I don't know anything about OSC's politics but - being a SW fan - I disliked his nasty opinions of Star Wars. 
Still, the personal history of a debater doesn't - or at least shouldn't - improve the validity of his argument. (That would be like arguing against Rowling's right to defend her copyright because of the parallels between Harry Potter and the Troll movie and the Worst Witch.)
My 2 cents: It would take a lot of convincing to explain why, in the same book, the heterosexual romance of a pair of ghosts is narrated (in the middle of a battle, no less) but the exact nature of the most defining friendship of Dumbledore's youth, a friendship that was narrated as backstory from the first chapter to the penultimate chapter of the book - was revealed after publication in a Q & A session.
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yankee8255
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5/20 5:42am
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The judge had said he expected to render his decision in about 3 weeks. The trial ended on April 21, so it's now been 4 weeks, and still no decision. If nothing else, an indication that it is a very close, difficult case.
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5/29 12:29am
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I think Card made a great argument and he has some very good points... had this been a totally different situation. Just another example of how 'valid' and 'accurate' are not synonymous.
As someone who has, in the past, skirted that blurry, wrinkled, almost-but-not-quite-entirely-unlike-a-Line that is 'Fair Use,' and twiddled my thumbs in tense anxiety as I waited to see after the fact if I did it right (because there's honestly no way to know beforehand), I have to say that really, it would be better for everyone if the folks in Legal Land just sat their behinds down like good little law children and pounded out a actual, real, complete definition of what, exactly, fair use is and what it constitutes. But they won't cuz they're afraid, so we're left to the interpretations of confused judges and whiney authors to do it for us. And that comment goes for Card AND Rowling.
Crying on the wittness stand. Sheesh. Gimme a break.
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rumsmuggler
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interesting article.
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minervas_secretary
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yankee8255 posted:
The judge had said he expected to render his decision in about 3 weeks. The trial ended on April 21, so it's now been 4 weeks, and still no decision. If nothing else, an indication that it is a very close, difficult case.
I understand he took it upon himself to read the Potter Series and the companion books to aid in his decision because he had to ask Scholastic if they had a copy of the books at the trial. So reading the books + the briefs could make it longer than he anticipated to make his decision.
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DorkmanScott
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Orson Scott Card is so full of himself he makes me sick.
At any rate, has anyone here read the Lexicon? It sounds less like she's upset about the fact that they're writing a book about Harry Potter, and more about the fact that they've plagiarized her own writing word-for-word, repackaged it and are making big money off a cut-and-paste hack job. Again, that's called plagiarism and if that's the case she's totally in the right, and OSC is just showing a total misunderstanding of how intellectual property works.
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DorkmanScott posted:
Orson Scott Card is so full of himself he makes me sick.
At any rate, has anyone here read the Lexicon? It sounds less like she's upset about the fact that they're writing a book about Harry Potter, and more about the fact that they've plagiarized her own writing word-for-word, repackaged it and are making big money off a cut-and-paste hack job. Again, that's called plagiarism and if that's the case she's totally in the right, and OSC is just showing a total misunderstanding of how intellectual property works.
QFT. Exactly.
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yankee8255
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FYI, plagiarism =/= copyright infringement. Plagiarism is taking someone else's work and not attributing the source -- the lexicon does that, as it generally says where it got the info from -- e.g. GOF p. 33. Copyright infringement goes beyond plagiarism in that sense. It's not just enough to attribute the source, if you take too much, even with proper citing, it's still infringement.
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I believe that JKR won the lawsuit.
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PrincessKenobi
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She did in fact win the case. But it may not be done in the court system. There's talk of another suit this one coming from Ark against Rowling.
I think the biggest reason she brought about the lawsuit, she had hinted at before and then said after Deathly Hallows released last year, that she herself was going to put out an encyclopedia for the world. Which would include some back stories for characters and what happened after the defeat of Voldermort and where everyone is at. Then out of no where Ark decides to make his own. Can't be sure on the specifics, but it is all on mugglenet.com.
Just my 2 pennies.
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