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JediWampa
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4/18 8:26pm
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Ok, I've got to ask....did anyone other me catch Ronald Moore's Star Trek homage?
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Ulkesh2
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Yes sir...the airlock door labeled 1701D.
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And here I thought Kat got screwed over good near the end of The Passage. Cally had it worse IMHO. Kat at least went out with the knowledge that she saved some people and made up with Kara. Cally on the other hand thinks Tyrol is cheating on her, finds out her husband is a Cylon, and gets airlocked by Tory.
Oh, and when the Cylons had their meeting with the Baseships, who was thinking "It's a Trap!"? 
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Damn, the last ten minutes tonight were almost up there with Boomer plugging Adama. Awesomeness. Total awesomeness. Poor Cally. 
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4/18 9:35pm
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Why would Cally go to the airlock...and not say report what she just heard? Cant wait to see them all get whats coming to them.
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Battlestar Honcho to write Sci-Fi movie trilogy.
(from EW.com)
(VARIETY) — Ronald D. Moore, showrunner of Battlestar Galactica, has signed a deal with United Artists (run by Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner) to write a big-screen sci-fi trilogy. UA is keeping mum on the details of the project. Besides Galactica, Moore's credits include Star Trek: Generations and First Contact, the upcoming The Thing, and Cruise's Mission: Impossible II.
Soon all Sci-Fi will be like Battlestar Galactica.
(from io9.com)
Battlestar Galactica may have been more of a critical hit than a ratings smash, but its producers are getting ready to spread its science fiction recipe, mixing grit and soap opera, through a bunch of more high-profile venues. David Eick is already signed to work on a TV series based on P.D. James' Children Of Men, and Ron Moore is writing a prequel to The Thing and a TV movie called Virtuality. And they're both working on the BSG prequel TV movie Caprica, and might be involved in a resulting series. But now, it turns out both creators will be much, much busier than that.
Moore just signed a deal to write and produce an original science fiction movie trilogy for United Artists, the resurrected production company that wants to create its own home-grown franchises. No word on what the trilogy will be called, or what it's about. New UA CEO Paula Wagner worked with him 10 years ago, when he co-wrote Mission Impossible II, which she produced.
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JediWampa posted:
Ok, I've got to ask....did anyone other me catch Ronald Moore's Star Trek homage?
Nice to know I'm not the only who noticed that.
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JediWampa
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Chancellor_Ewok posted:
JediWampa posted:
Ok, I've got to ask....did anyone other me catch Ronald Moore's Star Trek homage?
Nice to know I'm not the only who noticed that.
It greatly reinforced my wife's image of me as much too geeky....
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Leto II
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This has to be the bleakest TV show I've ever watched. Awesome, but bleak as hell. Even the machines are losing their minds. I'm gonna go watch a couple of Care Bears episodes to recover.
I know not everyone was a fan of Cally, but I occasionally found her cute and sweet, and yes, simple, but I certainly didn't cheer her death last night. I was with a couple of other people who did, and even they shut up when they showed Cally's cold, dead face.
Say what you will about where the story is going, but these last few episodes (minus last week's) have been superb in direction. I still have chills over Chief speaking to Cally with that mechanical voice while he's blurred in the background, or Starbuck standing over Sam, silhouetted in harsh, yellow light.
(Noticed a curious directorial choice, wherein they were deliberately obscuring Starbuck's face for like half the episode, until after she and Anders ****ed. Or frakked. Fr**ked?)
And OK, I don't get the "now-that-we-know-we're-Cylons-we-have-super-stength!" thing. That bugs me. I'm betting that if you scour some early episodes, you'll see some of these new Cylons getting in normal fistfights and NOT knocking their opponents six feet backwards. Then again, that strength is probably "unlocked" somehow when the Cylon-switch is flipped.
I hope we're going to start getting the character development for the other three of the Hidden Four that we've had with Tory. The writers took advantage of her being a blank slate, and posited that if someone accepts being a Cylon with no background history to conflict with that new identity (as would be the case with Tyrol, Tigh, and Anders), they may simply shed his or her humanity.
Some might argue that she killed Cally to keep her identity a secret, but I think she killed Cally simply because she could.
Finally, I didn't realize that Starbuck got the freaking A-Team on her ship. She has Helo, Athena, Gaeta, Anders, and Seelix riding with her. I thought it was just going to be Starbuck and a bunch of hapless extras. Should be interesting to come back to that storyline.
Oh, and one question: did Cavil kill ALL of the Sixes, or just Natalie and the other uppity Cylons? And by "kill," I simply mean "killed until next week," as we see Natalie in that teaser promo. I'm also assuming this means that D'Anna stays boxed...for now.
And, looking at the Centurions, I can just imagine them thinking:
"My hands transform into guns. I should be shooting things with my hands that turn into guns. Why aren't they letting me shoot things? **** this scrubbing-the-ship bull****. I wanna shoot things with my hands that turn into GUNS."
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Leto II posted:
And, looking at the Centurions, I can just imagine them thinking:
"My hands transform into guns. I should be shooting things with my hands that turn into guns. Why aren't they letting me shoot things? **** this scrubbing-the-ship bull****. I wanna shoot things with my hands that turn into GUNS."
QFT. The Sixes having to say please to the toasters was a nice touch.
And yeah, I think Tory killed Cally, mostly because she felt like doing it.
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Paladin307 posted:
Why would Cally go to the airlock...and not say report what she just heard? Cant wait to see them all get whats coming to them.
Lots of us were undoubtedly screaming at our TVs: "Tell Adama!!"
But no. She steps into an airlock, with her baby, although her descent into pharmaceutical depression felt a bit haphazard (given everything that's happened on both sides of New Caprica, though, it's perhaps understandable).
She spent years pining for Tyrol while he boned Sharon. When it turns out Sharon was a Cylon, Cally shoots her down and continues to moon over the Chief. The Chief beats the hell out of her, and she crawls back and asks him to marry her. And as we learned in this episode, she wished he'd slap her around some more.
The girl is damaged goods.
And then she learns that the love of her life is a skinjob. She's not going to tell the Admiral. She's going to snuff herself and her half-breed kid.
Chancellor_Ewok posted:
QFT. The Sixes having to say please to the toasters was a nice touch.
And yeah, I think Tory killed Cally, mostly because she felt like doing it.
Also, I can't imagine being in a particularly happy mood, if I was one of the characters in the month that transpired between the premiere and this episode. Think about it: 600+ people were recently erased from the survivor-count. Hope in something has to be intermingled along the way to break it up, just as with balancing action episodes like the second one.
I think the last shred of hope the humans in the fleet had was when they found food last year...everything else was grim grim grim, more or less. Actually, maybe it was the opening of Joe's Bar afterward that helped.
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Oooooh. Sooooo saw that coming (Tori killing Calli and stealing Nickey). Stupid Calli. Before offing herself and Nickey, she should have told some other human who the Cylons were--at least Tori and Tigh. How exactly does Tori know how to use the launch doors? And seems as though Cabal has a new counterpart for most-evil, morally bankrupt Cylon.
Wonder how the Cylon internecine battle will end out. Suspect Boomer will turn on the Cabals. Poor Chief.
Much ado is made about Hera. What about Nickey? He's at least half Cylon, too.
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To Leto 2 (or about his comment):
Agree that Tori probably murdered Calli because she could--and wanted to experience something new (which seems to be a trend these day for Tori). However, also support the idea that Calli was also murdered to stop her from spilling the beans. A combo of both.
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JediWampa
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Tactic_Thrawn posted:
How exactly does Tori know how to use the launch doors?
This is what I was thinking....even more so when they came out of the meeting. The Chief, who's entire job it is is to know what's going on aboard the Galactica, didn't notice the maintenance panel askew. The political support staff, on the other hand, noticed and knew exactly what it seemed to mean.
I know story-wise it wouldn't have been as plausible to have the Chief off Callie, but still.....
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My lovely Cally? Noooooooooooooooo!!!
Leto II posted:
Some might argue that she killed Cally to keep her identity a secret, but I think she killed Cally simply because she could.
Nah, Tori killed her because Tori slept with Baltar. You sleep with Baltar, you become evil. Think about it- sleeps with Six, she's a Cylon who destroys humanity; he sleeps with the cult chick, and she goes to town on some dude's head with a lead pipe; now he sleeps with Tori and she kills Cally. 
Leto II posted:
And, looking at the Centurions, I can just imagine them thinking:
"My hands transform into guns. I should be shooting things with my hands that turn into guns. Why aren't they letting me shoot things? **** this scrubbing-the-ship bull****. I wanna shoot things with my hands that turn into GUNS."
I also wanted to say how FANTASTIC the Centurion FX have looked for these past two episodes- I don't know if it's just the lighting on the Basestar sets or not, but they seem to hve a white/purplely, almost plastoid look to them, and they've quite simply never looked better. They've almost always looked CGI in the past, but this is the first time where it looked like they were using a animatronic puppet or suit on set. Great stuff. And yeah, them cleaning up the mess is kinda funny (weren't they planting trees on Caprica also?).
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