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Ulkesh2
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From the website The Doctor And Mrs Who...
SFC has ordered a full first season for Caprica even though the 'pilot' TV-movie has yet to be filmed.
Also reports are that a trilogy of POST-season four TV-movies are in the planning stage!
Speculation-
An actors strike is on the horizon. SFC wants to complete as much as possible before the hammer on production delays everything. Makes sense. It also might be a sign of confidence in Ronald Moore.
The three TV-movies being planned for post-season four might be a result of Ronald Moore's rethinking during the writers strike. My hope is we get a TV-movie along the lines of Babylon 5 episode Deconstruction Of Falling Stars. You know the episode that gives us a glimpse into the B5 saga's future. It might be that Moore might give us something like that. Tease us with how things might play out in the post-season four future.
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Radical-Edward
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If its true, then that's awesome news about Caprica. I'm reserving judgment on the post-4 movies, though. I'm hoping that the BSG story will be nicely and neatly wrapped up by the end of the season, and I was banking on a rather apocalyptic end, given the comments that have been made about the rethinking of the second half of 4. If they've got three movies in the pipeline, then that suggests a lot of unfinished storylines.
Anyway, I loved this week's episode. I was a little worried that there would be a drop after last week's great episode, but it was quite the contrary. They're really kicking it up a notch with the CGI this season, and they're using it more liberally (like all the wide-angle shots of the baseship's hangars) They've also set up the gratuitous mid-season battle sequence/cliffhanger. I'm a bit surprised that they popped Natalie so soon, but at least Leoben's still kicking.
The writers seem to have very neatly written themselves out of having to seriously address the issue of Tory's fun time with Baltar behind Roslin's back. Maybe a sign that the more serious storylines are going to start picking up again?
Was anybody else creeped out there after the dream sequence, when Athena wakes up next to Hera, and the little girl's staring at her and then says "bye-bye" right before the camera cuts to black. Oh, and was that Lampkin that I spotted in the previews, or was that just stock footage?
And TWO weeks? Why?!? What network god got pissed off at BSG fans?
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Vaderize03
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Awesome episode.
Does anybody know if an SAG strike would affect BSG? It's not just movie actors, is it? I know there have been major shake-ups on studio films, but I haven't heard anything about television.
Hopefully it won't happen, given the devastating impact of the writer's strike.
I don't know if the final episodes could survive being halted again for another work stoppage, although filming on the finale is set to be completed by the end of June, and the SAG contract expires June 30.
Prefer not to see BSG movies, unless they are completely stand-alone. I love the show, but I agree with not wanting to see storylines fail to be wrapped up simply because they are going to do TV movies a'la the "Ori" storyline from SG-1.
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Can anyone tell me if this has posted anywhere online yet? It's not on skiffy and not on hulu. Is it showing anywhere else?
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"JUMP!" Wow.
And we have to wait two weeks for a new episode so Sci-Fi can air a marathon of their crappy disaster movies? I know it's Memorial Day weekend, but *****.
Man, that was intense.
With the presence of Baltar in the opera-house vision, I was wondering if that means Baltar is the final one, but that's too obvious. And IIRC, the Final Five were on the balcony overlooking the atrium, so I guess it actually exonerates Baltar.
I suppose Starbuck being the "harbinger of death" does indeed mean in relation to the Cylons, if/when the resurrection hub is destroyed. I like how Tigh fudged his answer to Adama as to why he called for a weapons-hold. I'd say it was just plain gut instinct, in that the Basestar wasn't reacting in a hostile manner, and doesn't really have anything to do with the fact he's a Cylon. But it was interesting to see the doubt in Tigh's face as he wondered why he did it.
Also, Gaeta is the redshirt that would not die. Until someone in the sickbay puts a pillow over his face to stop that ***damn singing. Rather sad for Gaeta, but with him singing and the background music meshing with his song(s), I have to wonder if he's the last one. And what to make of his lyrics?
Again, great stuff. We're truly back on track -- not that we were completely derailed in the earlier eps, but I daresay anyone who was complaining that the main story arc wasn't going anywhere should be very pleased now. The show has always been plodding in the grand arcs, but seemed to do a better job of making headway in the individual episodes. I understand the frustration with what seemed like standalone storylines.
With the Colonial fleet and Cylons all in turmoil on multiple levels, they have enough open directions that it won't seem like there is only one mission -- finding Earth. They've got so much else to overcome. I love the uncertainty among both the Cylons and the Humans in their decisionmaking, because not only can they not trust the other, they also can't trust themselves to stick to their own decisions.
A couple of things from the teaser of the next episode:
Caught a glimpse of Romo Lampkin in there. Awesome.
Natalie is still alive. Even in a hospital bed, she looks hot. Damn you, Canada!
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THAT was by far the best episode of this show EVER!
And look who's on a Basestar now! 
I need to pull out my "always being right is an awesome responsibility" shirt, just to "pop" it.
Far and away, the events of this episode made EVERY character shine...It was PHENOMENAL!
Apollo grew a pair.
I'm actually starting to really LIKE Baltar (always found him interesting as a character, but he's actually becoming sympathetic, and perhaps...right?)
Roslin wasn't just acting like she was dead already.
Starbuck has her mojo back...thank god...now make her important IN the mainstream plot!
and ATHENA! WOW...never saw that coming...never! And now I wonder if they'll make that a "if she was human, she wouldn't have pulled the trigger".
So the question becomes:
Was the jump a part of the maturation of the rebel cylon plan to take hostages...or is this a hidden agenda even to them...something the hybrid has buried?
who "was" on the basestar? I know Roslin and Baltar were...were any of the hidden 4? Tyrol wasn't. Starbuck?
wow...I was literally blown away by this episode...if they had a couple more like this, it would be the best show on TV...
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Meh ... I can't say I agree with the sentiments that have been expressed thus far. I thought this episode was simply atrocious -- from the writing, to the directing, to the acting. There were some plot elements that were interesting, but there is a difference between having a good story to tell and telling a good story. There's definitely a good overall story behind BSG, but the individual episodes just can't seem to get out of the way of that story.
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After rewatching it, some more random thoughts:
- With Roslin gone, there is sure to be a power struggle among the fleet to break up. Another Adama in a leading position besides the Old Man? I have a hard time believing that this would vibe well with people, especially Zarek.
- So Hera has visions on her own now, with drawing all the Sixes? We have two prophecies now: the Hybrid one about Kara, and the opera-house one. But Hera seems to be the main connection between these. For now. The gods, or God, seems to be busy.
- "Kara Thrace, you are the harbinger of death!" sure got another interpretation, now. When Natalie told the Quorum about the seeking of mortality, it seems that the Hybrid was rather referring to the dawning mortality of the Cylons, rather than the extinction of the Human race.
- And the "Jump!" is perhaps related to a spoiler recently revealed by the producers: They reach Earth by the mid-season break. How the mid-season webisodes will tie into this will be interesting, indeed.
Two weeks without LOST and BSG is gonna be painful, since now they seem to be upping the ante and pace considerably.
So, what do we all think the odds are that Tigh knocked up the captive Caprica Six? If so, then their child will be full-Toaster. I can't really think of any other reason for Doc Cottle to narc on Tigh.
Also, the terminal patients were serene during Gaeta's singing, because Cottle doped 'em up. They'd be happy if Eddie Olmos streaked through the ICU.
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Jedimarine posted:
And look who's on a Basestar now!
Yep yep yep yep.... and so it may come to pass eh ? But I was sad to see that the Six in captivity... is STILL in captivity. I would have liked to seen her at least on the base ship too.
Jedimarine posted:
Was the jump a part of the maturation of the rebel cylon plan to take hostages...or is this a hidden agenda even to them...something the hybrid has buried?
No definitely NOT part of the cylon plan... but a part of the greater plan that neither side realizes. I think there are some protocols the hybrids know about.
Jedimarine posted:
who "was" on the basestar? I know Roslin and Baltar were...were any of the hidden 4? Tyrol wasn't. Starbuck?
None of the hidden 4 that I am aware of...
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[quote=Emperor's Prize]Meh ... I can't say I agree with the sentiments that have been expressed thus far. I thought this episode was simply atrocious -- from the writing, to the directing, to the acting. There were some plot elements that were interesting, but there is a difference between having a good story to tell and telling a good story./quote]
I guess everyone's got their own opinions. This is exactly how I felt with Exodus Part II, yet everyone on the internets seems to think the world of that episode.
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They'd be happy if Eddie Olmos streaked through the ICU.
Please don't ever put that image in my head again.
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Radical-Edward posted:
I guess everyone's got their own opinions. This is exactly how I felt with Exodus Part II, yet everyone on the internets seems to think the world of that episode.
Well, considering that I believe the series pretty much "Jumped the Shark" with Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II, it's pretty much all academic from here on out. As for Exodus, Part II, I thought it had some great VFX and action sequences, but I agree that, on the whole, it was still a flawed episode.
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Vaderize03 posted:
They'd be happy if Eddie Olmos streaked through the ICU.
Please don't ever put that image in my head again.
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Agreed. Adama+naked=bad.
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STUNNING REALIZATION!
Keep seeing the promo for the next episode.
The doc talking to Adama about how he's checked out the Caprica 6...and then Adama goes off on Tigh and Tigh knocks him out.
Caprica 6 is PREGNANT! Tigh knocked her up!
A pureblood Cylon baby!
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Yup...already mentioned that likelihood above.  Should be interesting.
RDM mentioned that one of the Sixes gets up-the-stick this season, and this looks like how it happens.
Am I suggesting that Doc Cottle administer the famous Cylon-back-glow-orgasm test to every woman in the fleet? Well, it's tiring work, but someone has to do it.
(Also, Polly Walker, who played the utterly MIL*-tastic Atia of the Julii in HBO's Rome, has been added to the Caprica cast.)
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