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I'd prefer someone other than Brainiac since we've had some exposure to him already. There are so many villains for Kal-el to face off against why limit the series? I say spread the wings.
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Well Brainiac has always had a very secondary role in this series and I can't see too many other characters being charismatic enough to carry an entire season of stories, as this is presumably the last. James Marsters is good enough actor I think he could take on a season as the primary villain and we wouldn't miss a beat.
However, I do keep hearing rumours about one possibility: Doomsday
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That would be interesting to say the least. I'd like to see Darkseid but I doubt that could be pulled off well enough given Clark's lack of maturity as the Man of Steel. He doesn't have all the tools necessary to take on a Darkseid type character. You're absolutely right about Brainiac being a sort of secondary character so far and he could use some development. He could be an excellent main villain in the event that Rosenbaum leaves the show and Lex is "written out."
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Lex is a fundamental aspect of the Superman mythos, which is why he was used quite a bit before "Man Of Steel", which turned Lex into a main cast member of the Superman books. There have only been a few times when he wasn't in the books significantly since 1986. Namely the first half of 1991, one year between July of 94 and June of 95 and currently since Action Comics #851. Though he's been seen in JLA and "Savlation Run". The show can survive without Lex on a full time basis, so long as Rosenbaum can appear from time to time. But a secondary threat needs to be used during this final season so we don't have a constant barrage of Meteor Freaks like in season one. Now while Superman has a villains to use, not many are budget friendly. The only one who comes to mind that can work long term, would be "Ugly" Bruno Mannheim.
Re-introduce Intergang and have him as the head of Intergang. They can downplay the Apokalips connection, but make it clear that he's a threat to be taken seriously.
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I been thinking, is there any chance that Kara Zor-L aka Power Girl might show up? 
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Too complicated to do. Kara being from Earth-2 and all that, they'd have to explain the Multiverse and then have an older version of Laura Vandernoot.
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Superherohype.com posted:
The "Smallville" producers, The CW, Warner Bros. Television, and Michael Rosenbaum announced Thursday that the actor will be leaving the show. First up, the statement from the former three, which also announces that Doomsday and a female antagonist will join the show for Season 8:
Joint statement from "Smallville" Executive Producers Darren Swimmer, Todd Slavkin, Kelly Souders and Brian Peterson; The CW Network; and Warner Bros. Television regarding Michael Rosenbaum's departure from "Smallville":
"It has been an honor and pleasure to work with Michael for the past six seasons. He is one of the best actors on television and has never failed to bring a new layer to the character of Lex Luthor in every episode. While Michael won't be a series regular and we won't have the pleasure of working with him on a weekly basis this fall, we like to think that we haven't seen the last of Lex Luthor. Stay tuned."
Details for Season 8:
Additionally, two new villains will join the cast of characters on "Smallville" this season: the legendary, unstoppable Doomsday, and a female antagonist who will challenge Clark in ways never before imagined. Casting is underway for both roles.
Doomsday: In season eight, Clark will face his ultimate challenge with the appearance of the legendary, unstoppable destroyer Doomsday, who appears on "Smallville" for the first time. As comic book fans know, Doomsday is notorious for being the only character in the DC Comics universe to have killed Superman.
Female villain: Doomsday won't be Clark's only nemesis in the upcoming season. The executive producers are tight-lipped about a new female villain they will be introducing, but they can say she will be familiar to many fans and will set her sights on Clark in ways Lex never could. Intelligent, brilliantly manipulative, and dangerously sinister, our gorgeous new villain has one more weapon in her arsenal: Her mutual attraction with Clark may prove to be as deadly as kryptonite for him.
And Rosenbaum's statement:
Dear Smallville Fans,
Well, it's been seven wonderful years. Your support is what has made Smallville so successful, and I appreciate you all more than you know.
That being said, it is time for me to start the next chapter of my life and career. I hope that I gave you some enjoyment over the years, and that you found my portrayal of Lex Luthor to be satisfying. I am truly grateful, as Smallville fans are the best fans out there. I sincerely hope that you will continue to follow my career through my hair growth period and beyond.
I'm very excited about what the future holds, but certainly, Smallville will always be a part of me. I will definitely miss the greatest crew in the world, and the wonderful cast that has been like a family to me.
Thank you Al and Miles for creating the show. Thank you writers, producers, directors and editors. Thanks Tollin, Robbins and Davola for being there for the pilot. Thank you Peter Roth for employing me for ten years. Lisa Lewis, I miss you already. John Glover, thanks for helping me feel more comfortable touching other actors, while acting. Bizarre, but helpful.
Mostly, I want to thank Greg Beeman for directing the "Oh Sherry" video, by Steve Perry, back in the 80's.
Thanks crew. Thanks fans. Thanks Smallville.
I love you all,
Michael Rosenbaum
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The only female Superman character who is a villain that comes to mind, is the Contessa Erica Alexandra Del Portenza (Luthor).
The Contessa made her debut in 1995 as the new owner of Lexcorp after Lex had been exposed as a criminal and his health had declined to the point where he couldn't stand trial. Much less function. Though Lex would recover and eventually clear his name, he had to find a way to regain control of his company. To that end, he forged an alliance and married the Contessa. Unexpectedly, she got pregnant and would give birth to a daughter named Lena. But Lex was never one to share and so he arrainged to remove Erica from the picture, so that he could have sole custody. What Lex didn't know was that Erica had allies who would free her and allow her to plot her revenge. The couple would fight for custody, off and on until Lex launched a barrage of missiles at her home and apparently killed her.
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I'm definitely going to miss Rosenbaum, other than Welling he was my favorite actor on the show. My hope is that he comes back for a few episodes sometime next year including the season and very likely series finale.
On another note, is it confirmed the Kristen Kruek will not return next season as well?
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Yeah, she will appear in a few episodes in exchange for being allowed to shoot "Street Fighter: The Legend Of Chun Li" right as the strike ended. She appears in "Apocalypse"
On an off-topic note, I present a couple of pages taken from the 2004 Superman Secret Files & Origins one-shot featuring the "Birthright" origin of Lex Luthor. And the first appearence of Lionel Luthor. This is based on the revised attempt at Lex's origin, based on material from "World Of Metropolis" and "Lex Luthor: An Unauthorized Biography" before being fixed in "Countdown To Final Crisis" #34.
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Ok, let's see if I understand the history of the Smallville universe.
Jor-El planned to send Clark to Earth, not to save him from the destruction of Krypton, but to protect/rule mankind. He envisioned that his son would be a benevolent ruler, but feared that he would misuse his abilities.
At some point, he (or another Kryptonian) sent three crystals of vast power to Earth. When united these crystals would provide the user with the archives of Kryptonian knowledge and history. An archive that should technically be incomplete, but (for the sake of an argument) the crystals could have had some sort of Kryptonian wi-fi that spans light years. In the wrong hands (i.e. Isobel, Genevieve, Jason, etc.) this would prove disastrous. So to take steps to prevent this, he somehow formed a cult on Earth revolving around the idea of his Son being a messiah. This would have been hundreds of years before he himself even bought into this destiny business, not to mention hundreds of years before his son's birth. He then gave them the means to locate this Fortress of Knowledge/Solitude, as well as a means to control his son. Around the same time he (or another Kryptonian) began influencing the culture of the Kawatchee(sp?) people of North America; giving them weapons that could grant humans Kryptonian powers, the means to turn into animals by using Kryptonite, and a particular cave that would house what I'm assuming was a Stargate of sorts, as well as a computer to house Jor-El's mind/artifical intelligence. Also, at some point, a Kryptonian journeys to Earth with samples of Kryptonite. Rather than using his godlike power to protect mankind he decides to get married and become a human being. This has nothing to do with the overall plot, despite how important it should be.
Fastforward a few centuries and Jor-El (somehow still a teenager/young adult) has been sent to Smallville as a means of punishment by his own father. At this point in his life Jor-El has seemingly forgotten all about his plots and contingency plans that he's been formulating for centuries. Or perhaps he has simply lost faith in all of the rhetorics of destiny and such. After a mishap with Lana's great aunt, he returns to Krypton, but not before selecting a family to send his unborn son to. Presumably his faith in his plans has somehow been rekindled.
He eventually begins to send messages to Dr. Swan, the current leader of Veritas. This information seems to entail detailed Kryptonian history (the type of information that the three crystals would hold, so now there kind of pointless), as well as fanning the flames of Swan's worship of the Traveler.Now that the faith of his cult followers has been rekindled, new blood is brought into the fold of Vertias in the form of Lionel Luthor. Luthor works with Swan, the Teagues, and the Queens in efforts to make preparations for the arrival of the Traveler, Jor-El's son. Being the power hungry individual that he is, Lionel kills the Queens in an effort to gain more power over the Traveler. He then headed to Smallville so that he could great the Traveler, as well as acquire a... corn processing plant? Huh.
During the years between his trip to Smallville and the destruction of Krypton, Jor-El spends his time combating the forces of General Zod. The course of this Kryptonian Civil War resulted in Zod's imprisonment in the Phanotm Zone, but not before he could set into motion the events that would destroy Krypton.
Then the Pilot episode happens, Kara lands in a lake, and Lionel gives the Traveler to the Kents, and then promptly forgets all about his wacky cult days. He proceeds to be the villain that Lex should be now (but isn't) and seeks to discover the mysteries of the Kawatchee caves (which he should have already been privy to) and to unravel the mystery of Clark Kent (which he should have already been well aware of, if not borderline suspicious). Time passes and Lionel is arrested, and after years of making contradicting comments, Jor-El makes his move.
Using a girl he brainwashed after the meteor shower (somehow) he lures Clark to the caves and sends him...somewhere. After three months of brainwashing he sends Clark back to Smallville so that he can begin his search for the aforementioned crystals. But, due to Swan's intervention (which consequently makes no sense at this point) Clark is freed from Jor-El's control. Time passes, a dying Lionel uses a Kryptonian crystal to trade bodies with Clark. For some reason Lionel doesn't immediately realise that Clark is the Traveler (or he does and just doesn't care) and plans on living his life as a god. Eventually Clark regains his body, and Lionel has inadvertently had a change of heart. Meanwhile, the consequences of Jor-El's meddling (Isobel) had caused the remaining crystals to be brought together. The Fortress is formed. Lionel has become directly connected to the Fortress of Solitude and acts as a host to Jor-El. Also, the Swans and two of the Teagues die. Jason Teague's father goes into hiding in Montreal as a monk. Yeah.
Now two more Kryptonians have arrived on Earth, and are sent to the Phantom Zone with little fanfare. However, the Brain Interactive Construct (Brain.I.A.C.) has arrived on Earth as well, and he sets plans into motion that will release General Zod from the Phantom Zone. Along the course of Season 5 Lionel reveals that he knows Clarks identity, not as the Traveler, as a Kryptonian. For some reason he doesn't feel the need to let Clark now vital information, such as the fact that Jor-El has established a means to control Clark.
Time passes once more, and the Phantoms--oh, I'm sorry, the 'Zoners', are released from the Phantom Zone. Clark returns them to there prison, but faces his match when one Zoner takes on his form and powers. This strangely does not interest Jor-El all that much. His approach to this deadly form of the Traveler is reactionary, and not proactive in the least. Anyhow, Kara is released from suspended animation and Clark meets J'onn J'onnz, a Martian bounty hunter who served Jor-El in some capacity. Apparently he fulfilled some purpose in the Kryptonian Civil War that required him to apprehend Zor-El, Jor-El's jealous younger brother.
Clark is just now realizing all of this, or is just now putting all of the pieces together.
So that's where we are now, right? Huh. Aside from the fact that most of this was thrown together at the last minute in order to make it seem as if there was a grand master plan all along, the idea is interesting. Not executed well in any way shape or form, but interesting.
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I enjoyed last night's episode a lot, especially Rosenbaum's parts. The finale looks like it could be very interesting, and I'm curious as to what fate they have in store for Lex.
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I've seen better Smallville season finales. It didn't suck, but it could have been better. I guess Rosenbaum is coming back next season. The way they ended the season finale makes it almost impossible for Lex not to be in the next episode. Unless the producers go for a cheapie, like having a piece of ice fall on top of Lex or Lex falling in a crevice. Or maybe film his last scenes and have something happen to Lex in the first episode of next season.
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DarthLassic007 posted:
I've seen better Smallville season finales. It didn't suck, but it could have been better. I guess Rosenbaum is coming back next season. The way they ended the season finale makes it almost impossible for Lex not to be in the next episode. Unless the producers go for a cheapie, like having a piece of ice fall on top of Lex or Lex falling in a crevice. Or maybe film his last scenes and have something happen to Lex in the first episode of next season.
Well considering they have announced officially (see posts above) that he isn't returning next season, I get the feeling that you will be sorely disappointed.
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Alison Mack will be back as Chloe, for all 22 episodes next season. CW also did not pick up another pilot that Justin Hartley shot. So the producers for next season are looking to get him back as Green Arrow.
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