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Koohii Title: Games: RPG d6 GM Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 11/8/07 2:40pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	The2ndQuest posted: On a sidenote, I'd kill for this to be real. That looks fantastic. You know, campy as it is, I'd like them to use the same model design as was made in 1966. Maybe slight down-grades since it is supposed to be just being built. I disliked the NX look from the Enterprise series. Too much of the textured movie/ILM/Next-gen look. Where are the smooth lines, cylindars, and dishes of the 60s? That's what TOS was about. That's what the ship should be. Remember the shocked look on Kirk's face when he saw square engines during the flyby in TMP? -----signature----- Create happy mediums: Free prozac to all psychics & Jedi I'm met 6yo adults and 36yo children Still working toward Ni-Kyu Go Ju Ryu
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The2ndQuest Title: : -Games -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 11/8/07 3:30pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	Well, the movie refit was gorgeous too- I'd settle for something that detailed and fine-tuned. I just can't see the original design working on the big screen without some major detailing overhauls. It can't be any smoother or sparse/cleaner-looking than the movie version. Obviously they can't change the sillouette too much though. that video is on the extreme end of things, but it still looks the same in terms of shape and design as the original model, just has the added depth and realistic design implementations that sell certain features like the dish and spinny lights. I agree, though, that they shouldn't try to make it NX-01ish, as I didn't care for the strong metal-plating aesthetic. -----signature----- K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..." Is your Death Magnetic?
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Koohii Title: Games: RPG d6 GM Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 11/8/07 3:46pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series. - Date Edited: 11/8/07 3:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Koohii
	At the risk of being too geeky (oh wait, this is a StarTrek topic in an online forum--never mind ), I would point out that the original StarFleet Battles game (which was frequently much more in keeping with the TV show and books than the RPG), had the original Enterprise with Armor, which later ships replaced with Shields. So while the armored look might be OK for NX, it shouldn't be in play at all with any of the NCCs. Also, the number of escape pods on -D was rediculous. That game had the evolution of starships down pretty well, and was a nicely balanced strategy/allocation game. I miss having people around to play it with. (Everyone wants to play the computer games and NetFest). Anyway, I think following the original smooth lines is a much better way to go. Otherwise, they'll have to "Special Edition" the entire original series. I don't care how good the CGI is, it would ruin the flavor. (This coming from someone who only converted to CDs because getting tapes and vinyl LPs for new music became impossible.) Yes, I'm a dinosaur. -----signature----- Create happy mediums: Free prozac to all psychics & Jedi I'm met 6yo adults and 36yo children Still working toward Ni-Kyu Go Ju Ryu
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The2ndQuest Title: : -Games -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 11/8/07 4:46pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series. - Date Edited: 11/8/07 4:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	Not necessarily- they're obviously going to be revising elements of the original series era to make them more realistic in the details, while keeping the same overall look- like the uniforms. TOS is just the low budget, less-detailed version of what things "actually" look like, essentially. I don't expect them to go to the extremes that are in that video, but I think we'll something more detailed than the models used in Enterprise's A Mirror Darkly two-parter, with some flavor from the movie refit/1701-A added into the mix. However, if they do go for a full-on new reboot approach, I think something like that video version of the ship would blend in more naturally with the film-era and TNG-era craft. -----signature----- K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..." Is your Death Magnetic?
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Chancellor_Ewok Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 11/9/07 11:16am Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	Koohii posted: I disliked the NX look from the Enterprise series. Too much of the textured movie/ILM/Next-gen look. I agree. The NX-class Enterprise was too small and looked too advanced for the time that thet show was set it. -----signature----- For more information about the crack spider's bitch contact the Canadian Wildlife Service in Ottawa. I robbed the second largest bank in France using only a ballpoint pen I killed a man with this thumb.
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Jedi_Master_Conor Title: Manager: • SFF: Movies • Box Office Host Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 11/13/07 2:38pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	I'd like to start picking up the season DVD's of this soon. With the remastered episodes being aired lately is there a dvd set coming out that has all of them remastered or what? I don't want to be double dipping or anything
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The2ndQuest Title: : -Games -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 11/13/07 3:28pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series. - Date Edited: 11/13/07 3:30pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	The first season Remastered is hitting HD-DVD on November 20th. I think it's a safe bet you won't be seeing the Remastered series on DVD, since the HD was a big aspect of the Remastered series. The only alternative would be to purchase them on an episode-by-episode basis via X-Box Live Marketplace or iTunes. -----signature----- K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..." Is your Death Magnetic?
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ObiWanCon Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 11/13/07 4:15pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	The Re-Mastered HD-DVD set is both HD-DVD and standard DVD one side of the discs are HD and other is DVD and both formats have all the new FX on the episodes. -----signature----- Dam, I thought that was closer INDIANA JONES IV IS THE GREASTEST THE DARK KNIGHT IS BRILLIANT STAR WARS THE CLONE WARS AUGUST 15TH Member of the Obi Wan Kenobi Fan Club
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The2ndQuest Title: : -Games -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 11/13/07 4:22pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	Oh? They're doing the hybrid format? That's actually very awesome of them. -----signature----- K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..." Is your Death Magnetic?
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Chancellor_Ewok Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 11/14/07 7:53am Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	Did anyone see The Menagerie last night? -----signature----- For more information about the crack spider's bitch contact the Canadian Wildlife Service in Ottawa. I robbed the second largest bank in France using only a ballpoint pen I killed a man with this thumb.
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Sith_Lord_Linkoping Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 11/16/07 7:29am Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	Chancellor_Ewok posted: Did anyone see The Menagerie last night? Unfortunately not since I live in another country. [mumble]I'm not the least jealous, I'm not the least jealous[/mumble] Was it a pleasant experience? I'm waiting for the release of the first season of TOS Remastered HD DVD release here in Sweden. 2007-11-28 is the date I'm looking forward to. -----signature----- Bianca 1990-2006 - Lost but not forgotten. ~ "Birth signals the arrival of death." - Tekkonkinkreet
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Chancellor_Ewok Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 11/16/07 7:35am Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series. - Date Edited: 11/16/07 7:39am (4 edits total) Edited By: Chancellor_Ewok
	Sith_Lord_Linkoping posted: Chancellor_Ewok posted: Did anyone see The Menagerie last night? Unfortunately not since I live in another country. [mumble]I'm not the least jealous, I'm not the least jealous[/mumble] Was it a pleasant experience? I'm waiting for the release of the first season of TOS Remastered HD DVD release here in Sweden. 2007-11-28 is the date I'm looking forward to. Here's the review I wrote for my newspaper workshop. Star Trek beamed on to the big screen in a major way on Monday night for a special screening of the classic original television series episode, The Menagerie. It’s the 40th anniversary of the creation of Star Trek and, to celebrate both this milestone anniversary and the launch of the Star Trek Remastered DVDs on Nov. 20, Paramount Pictures and CBS have pulled out all the stops in restoring the 79 original episodes. The Menagerie’s plot contains elements of Star Trek’s pilot episode, The Cage, in which Spock sets out to help the starship Enterprise’s previous commander, Capt.Christopher Pike, after learning of his exposure to large amounts of radiation, that has rendered him unable to speak or move. In a desperate bid help Pike and relieve his suffering, Spock hijacks the Enterprise and set a course for the planet, Talos IV, a world under quarantine because it is home to a race of telepathic aliens who are capable of making any illusion seem real. As the theft of a starship is a crime, Spock is put on trial. Any attempt to return to Talos IV carries with it, a sentence of death should Spock be found guilty. Some Star Trek fans may have visions of George Lucas’s 1997 update of his Star Wars trilogy when reading these words. They are probably having images of whole new scenes being created for just for this event. Don’t worry, no such thing has taken place with the restoration Star Trek. Before the restored episodes began, there was a behind-the-scenes look at the restoration process, which included repairing tears, stains and other blemishes on the original negative of the episodes. The most noticeable aspect of the restoration is in the special effects. The CBS restoration team replaced all of the model shots of the Enterprise with computer generated images. The digital Enterprise was beautiful to look at and seeing those sleek lines filling the movie screen was a real treat. Almost as wonderful as the updated special effects, was the music. During the restoration process, it was decided to take advantage of advances in technology and rerecord the Star Trek theme music. This was a very smart decision. The sound was deep, rich and thrilling to listen to. This is what it must have been like to hear the music played for the first time in the recording studio. This screening of The Menagerie was a one-night event. That said, it is clear that much time and energy has been spent restoring Star Trek. It is not unreasonable to hope that as, the Christmas 2008 release date for J.J. Abrams’ new Star Trek movie draws nearer, Paramount Pictures will screen more Star Trek episodes in this fashion. I got a B+ and got printed in the paper. -----signature----- For more information about the crack spider's bitch contact the Canadian Wildlife Service in Ottawa. I robbed the second largest bank in France using only a ballpoint pen I killed a man with this thumb.
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Sith_Lord_Linkoping Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 11/16/07 8:22am Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	Brilliantly written. I couldn't agree more. -----signature----- Bianca 1990-2006 - Lost but not forgotten. ~ "Birth signals the arrival of death." - Tekkonkinkreet
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The2ndQuest Title: : -Games -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 11/16/07 4:19pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	304: And the Children Shall Lead: -Premise: The Enterprise travels to a planet where a scientific team has killed themselves...except for the children, who began to act oddly, being influenced by an evil spirit. -T2Q Comments: I hate these kids. Oh, you want more? Fine! Their forced "playing" was not convincing and annoyingly distracting. Busy. Busy. Busy. Busy... Busy annoying the crap out of me. So shall you do, so shall you do, so shall you do, so shall you do...were they running short with this episode or something? were they running short with this episode or something? were they running short with this episode or something? were they running short with this episode or something? Video logs are annoying- what is he looking at? He's recording it himself, afterall. And that hand motion the kids make- I see they control people by practicing playing Manhunt 2 on the Wii. The transporter-into-space is a crappy way to go, I must say. I guess this episode is the reason there's so many windows on the D- so they can tell if the ship is actually moving, ha. Yes, trick Sulu into not moving the ship by using the image of giant space knives...my, what a logicaly convincing illusion...yep, no reason why Sulu would question it. And once again they portray Uhura as a shallow and useless character with her "i'm old in the (suddenly there) Mirror! woe is me! life is over!". Hilarious expression on Kirk's face once he's affected by the kids, though. The "kids crying" was too forced of a sentimental ending & McCoy happy to see them cry is disturbing. Death to you all! Death to you all! Death to you all! Are we sure he wasn't talking to the writer's? Verdict: Despite the above, it's tonally consistent, for the most part, so it stays above the likes of The Naked Time and The Menagerie, despite my better judgement and insticnt to rank it lower, I categorize this one as "Average". This one was Remastered, but it's just the stock orbit shots of the ship over the new planet. They surprisingly did not replace Sulu's knives. 305: Is There In Truth No Beauty?: -Premise: A beautiful woman escorts an alien ambassador so hideously ugly that the sight of him can drive a human mad. -T2Q Comments: Outside of yet another attempt to steal the ship (and why do people always hijack it to go beyond the galaxy? is it really that exciting out there? ), this is a rather solid episode. "We apparently entered a space-time continuum" so where were you before, exactly, Mr. Spock? Funny exchange: "A madman got us into this and it's beggining to look like only a madman can get us out." "An entertaining suggestion, Mr. Checkov, but not very helpful." For a blind chick, her eyes certainly move around a lot...and her forced confession at the end is a little annoying This episode kinda puts a wrench in the "Where No Man Has Gone Before-By Any Other Name show bookending" concept I mentioned earlier...though this might now make an appropriate end with the "Live long and prosper" line being the last thing spoken. (always on the hunt for a proper "last episode", this one is...). Still, Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential, though the chick's gown could be seen as a precurssor to Georgi's VISOR on TNG (and she herself is yet again the actress who would go on to play Dr Pulaski on that show). 306: Spectre of the Gun: -Premise: When coming to an exaphobic isolationist planet, Captain Kirk and his landing party are punished for trepassing. They are sentenced to death in a surreal recreation of the Gunfight at the OK Corral with the landing on the losing side. -T2Q Comments: Now, I love time travel and all, but by this point in the show it seems like they really should have just made the show about time exploration instead of space exploration, because half these shows are either time travel epsiodes, time travel episodes in all but name, or an excuse to use essentially a time period set. Time Trek in all but name, really. That said, once you get over the western elements, this was a pretty good episode, unhindered by any 60's syndrome issues, though it is harmed by the obvious budget-saving partial sets, regardless how they explained it away. Creepy looking alien- really wish I could see a modern version actual moving. I find it annoying that Chechov would allow himself to be provoked into a confrontation over and with what they knew to be illusionary people. Despite knowing that the people aren't real, it does seem as if the Matrixy "if your mind doesn't think the bullets are real, they can't kill you" conlusion is reached in a rushed manner, though that's a minor issue. Guns sure had a lot of ammo in them (though since its an illusion, I suppose that doesn't matter). The "you did not kill?" bit from the aliens is a retread of Arena's ending, though this episode is executed a lot better than that one. Additionally, the subsequent moral conclusion aboard the bridge feels like "time for the obligatory lesson of the episode" and thus feels a bit forced in there. In the end, there's not much to really complain about, but it's certainly not an essential episode, but does fit right in with the time period planet of the week pattern of episodes throughout most of this series, so it gets a "Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential". 307: Day of the Dove: -Premise: When the Enterprise brings aboard Klingon prisoners, an alien entity pits both sides against each other in an ever-escalating struggle. -T2Q Comments: Heading outside the gaalxy again?! The episode starts to fall apart a bit as the acting limits are reached, but not too badly. But how do people don't notice this light by them? It's shown later that it actually does cast light so you'd certainly notice it's ambiant presence. I find it amusing that Scotty pronounces "Keep your Vulcan hands off me" in a manner that would usually require a fictional Battlestar Galactica phrase... Intership beaming is risky? Haven't we seen such pinpoint beaming before? Not to mention it doesn't seem necessary since everyone else managed to just walk down the hall anyways. And the ending...um, there's still Klingons aboard... Still, a much better followup Klingon episode than Tribbles (being comedic) or Friday's Child (being terrible), and Kang apparently appears a couple times on DS9 later on. So, I'll go with "Definitely Essential". 308: For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky: -Premise: The Enterprise must deflect an asteroid on a collision course with an inhabited planet...but discover the asteroid is a spaceship with a population unaware of the outside world. -T2Q Comments: Another Silly Hat Attack! Wee! McCoy romances never seem to come across that well in this series (in fact, they're usually downright lousy plotlines and acting), but this has been the most tolerable of them (even though the chick falls in love with him after like, 5 seconds), and the episode overall isn't that bad, though the "computer controlling a society" feels a bit of a retread, at least they didn't have Kirk talk it to death. Still, I'm not terribly inclined to rewatch this episode again, so I'll classify it as "Average". Up next: 309: The Tholian Web, 310: Platos Stepchildren and 311: Wink of an Eye. -----signature----- K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..." Is your Death Magnetic?
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The2ndQuest Title: : -Games -LACWAC -Lit Mod of Death Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 11/19/07 3:15pm Subject: RE: Beam me up, Scotty! Star Trek: The Original Series.
	309: The Tholian Web: -Premise: When the Enterprise investigates the disappearance of another starship, they lose Kirk in a dimensional interphase and must deal with a hostile alien race while trying to recover him. -T2Q Comments: Very little to nitpick here, outside of the electric razor helmets - it's a good episode. Though Spock is a bit quick to come to the conclusion of what the web will do once completed, and Bones' support of leaving behind the chance to save Kirk seems contradictory to past episodes where McCoy was constantly riding Spock for doing similar things. Combined with the eventual fate of the Defiant being revealed to have been pulled back through time and into the Mirror Universe by the Mirror Tholians, and the overall quality of the episode, gets this one onto the "Definite Essentials" list. BTW, I'd love it if someone can explain what the whole "starless space" thing is supposed to be that the Enterprise goes through when getting flung clear of the web. And, for some comparison since it will quite some time before we loop around to Enterprise, some shots of the web, Defiant and Tholians in that Mirror two-parter: 310: Platos Stepchildren: -Premise: Kirk and his crew find themselves at the mercy of powerful individuals who possess mind-over-matter powers...and plan to use the Enterprise crew for their twisted entertainment. -T2Q Comments: Sing along- Slap, your Kirk up! Slap, your Kirk up! seriously, Kirk's "stop hitting yourself!" moment had me rolling. The episode sorta changes gear to a threatening situation fairly jarringly. Ok, silly song and dance by Spock and Kirk...and now a midget is riding Kirk like a pony while Shatner makes horsie noises...ho-lee-crap. The forced toga makeout sessions are silly. And, as much as a sucker as i am for TK powers, this ones just not good, plus yet another "society stagnation" themed episode. BTW, if all you need to do is inject or eat this kironide substance- why doesn't Starfleet utilize this to some degree? Despite being notable for being among the first kisses on TV between a caucasian and african american, this episode is pretty bad, and, ultimately, "Forgettable". The image of a midget riding Kirk like a pony while Shatner makes horsie noises, however, is unfortunately not. Wink of an Eye: -Premise: The Enterprise is hijacked by hyperaccelerated, sterile aliens who want the crew for breeding stock. -T2Q Comments: Though some interesting elements are used, a lot of this has a retreaded feel- from the jealous male alien/guest star to the powerful female controlling the situation to take over the ship or members of it's crew. The time dilation between Kirk and the aliens and that of the crew doesn't seem to match up very well either. And, in the end, the chick is tricked too easily, and why Kirk doesn't give them the antidote? Verdict: Average. 312: The Empath: -Premise: On a planet doomed to destruction, Kirk, Spock & McCoy become involved with two aliens who use them as laboratory animals in a bizarre series of tests on an alien empath who may be the savior of her planet. -T2Q Comments: These Vians have to be cousions to the egg-heads on Talos IV; Spock comments that the chick is definitely not homo sapien, yet the only difference seems to be her lack of vocal chords; Kirk calls the girl the crux and focal point since they got here, yet she's been pretty much insignificant in terms of the story up till that point- it isn't until the final scene with the Vians that she takes on the focal point status. The morale at the end of the episode is also heavy handed, but still, not a bad episode, though certainly filler. Interesting set design with the black backgrounds too- though obviously a cost saver, a similar type of staging would later be used to great effect often on Babylon 5. Gives things a very stage play feel, and adds some nice stark contrast. Verdict: Good Episode, But Not Necessarily Essential Up next: 313: Elaan Of Troyius, 314: Whom Gods Destroy and 315: Let That Be Your Last Battlefield. The Tholian Web also provides new entries in both the Time Travel and Alternate Universe logs: Time Travel Log: -TOS: The City on the Edge of Forever (1930: NCC-1701 crew; from 2267) -TOS: Assignment Earth (1968: NCC-1701; from 2268) -TOS: Tommorow is Yesterday (1969: NCC-1701; from 2267) -TOS: The Tholian Web (2154 (Mirror Universe): NCC-1764 Defiant; from 2268) -TOS: The Naked Time (2266: NCC-1701 goes back in time 3 days; from 2266) Alternate Universe Log: -TOS: The Alternative Factor (Anti-Matter Universe) -TOS: Mirror, Mirror (Mirror Universe) -TOS: The Tholian Web (Mirror Universe & "Solo-Kirk" Universe) -----signature----- K'Kruhk, 140 ABY: "Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..." Is your Death Magnetic?
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