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Jedimarine
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2/29 11:02am
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Ah...well New cast...can be alone on screen.
They had that whole episode where Browder took Vala to his home town.
As I recall, the subplot had the rest of the team scattered about.
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Has everyone pre-ordered the Ark of Truth? I did...I'm looking forward to watching it. I hope it does well and is the first of many (i.e., more than two) SG-1 movies.
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Jedimarine
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I don't pre-order on principle...but I'll likely get it within the first week.
I'm cautiously optimistic...from my understanding, MGM has always supported future SG-1 offerings. But I don't think these decisions are based as heavily on dvd sales as the fan base likes to believe.
The dvd could tank and we could still get more films...it could be the biggest straight to disc film ever, and they decide another project is more promising.
Never assume you are filling some part of a bargin here...it'll bring you disappointment.
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I've seen The Ark of Truth. It's sterile.
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jamesdrax posted:
I've seen The Ark of Truth. It's sterile.
Sterile? I've seen it to, but I am confused by this description, what do you mean by it?
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It was just plain mediocre and miles below what it could have been. It had decent acting and impressive production values, but the script approached the conclusion to the Ori storyline like an after thought while the whole Replicator plot completely overwhelmed the film when all of that wasted screentime could have been used to develop and finalize the Ori story in a more satisfying way. The movie was a missed opportunity. It wasn't good or bad, just "meh".
My recommendation is just go and watch "Lost City" or "Reckoning" instead.
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It's definitely not as good as Lost City or Reckoning, but it was pretty good I thought, only a couple complaints:
-The use of the Replicators (while avoiding the sensation it's another overuse of them, as their introduction is a pretty good "holy ****!" moment) does overwhelm the Ori storyline, which is a shame- I'd have rather had more with the Doci, Adria and the Ori forces.
-Sort of a continuation of the above, there's some great setup for the Ori assault on Earth, but nothing ever happens- I wanted to at least have the Ancient outpost and some battlecruisers take down an Ori ship or two, then start losing to cause some desperation for SG-1 to get the Ark back to Earth in time.
-Also, tying into the above a bit, the Season 10 finale made a big deal about the Asgard weapons and tech upgrade, and while Atlantis has started using them effectively, they play no part in the win against the Ori.
Beyond that, there were some great scenes (the Landry/Prior discussion being my personal favorite- "Feel free to burst into flames."  ) and the characters came across well.
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Jedimarine
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2nd...I heard Ark of Truth was essentially written before the season 10 finale...this might explain why the Asgard tech had no part...when written, they didn't have them. And while they could've edited them in...it might seem like an obvious stretch.
Does anyone know if we are just to assume this picks up "now", or just at some point after the final episode aired? Is there an indication of how much time has passed?
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Is there any climactic final showdown that hasn't included the replicators in some form?
Apophis
Anubis (finally)
now the Ori
Somebody likes them too much...like...WAY too much.
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Well, the Asgard computer core and it attracting Ori motherships plays a role in the plot, so far as the IOA/Replicator plan goes, so it was factored in and isn't mysteriously missing. Also, I can only assume Asgard shields are what allowed the Odyssey the survive repeated bombardment by Ori superlasers.
As far as time goes- I think the opening scenes on Dakara implies some passage of time, as they'd been digging for at least a few days there, though it is identified as "present day" (though obviously not as "present day" as SGA Season 4  ). I'll take another look. (EDIT- yeah, only mentions that they were on Dakara for a few days, but no specific point of reference to the events of Season 10)
Also, as far as showdowns go, don't forget the Asurans- who, granted, are technically Replicators themselves, but we used one to counter them, so it sorta counts, and it was certainly climactic  )
Also wanted to make note of the musical score for TAOT- it's very well done, and Goldsmith blends in themes from the original movie with stuff from the series. Of particular interest is the opening title music, which starts off as it does in the movie, but then blends into the Ori theme instead of the Goa'uld theme.
And to those wondering- this really isn't a standalone movie for casual viewers who didn't follow the later seasons, it's definitely a movie for the fans, wrapping up Seasons 9 & 10. Though the DVD does include a Prelude montage (which can be viewed separately or with the movie) which summarizes the events and components of Seasons 9 & 10 relevant to TAOT's story. Still, it seems like Continuum is being positioned to be a more standalone story for broader audiences.
EDIT- Looking through the extra features, it's interesting that Cooper claims the story of TAOT is essentially the story of the Season 10/11 cliffhanger, had they not been cancelled...which raises the question of just what the heck the rest of Season 11 would cover- though I'm thinking only part of this statement is true- perhaps the acquisition/Replicator battle story line would have been the cliffhanger 2-parter, but the actual use of it wouldn't have happened until later in the season?
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That's really odd, I heard somewhere that "Dominion" was originally going to be the Season 10 cliffhanger with much of The Ark of Truth being the plot of Season 11. That is until the show got canceled, so they wrote up "Unending" as the final episode to go after it.
Doesn't that bloody Replicator plot feel like some brainstormed idea they had for a mid-season two-parter in a potential Season 11 but got thrown in the movie to fill up time?
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The2ndQuest posted:
EDIT- Looking through the extra features, it's interesting that Cooper claims the story of TAOT is essentially the story of the Season 10/11 cliffhanger, had they not been cancelled...which raises the question of just what the heck the rest of Season 11 would cover- though I'm thinking only part of this statement is true- perhaps the acquisition/Replicator battle story line would have been the cliffhanger 2-parter, but the actual use of it wouldn't have happened until later in the season?
Yeah...I'm pretty sure he means that the story arc would begin with the 10/11 cliffhanger...but then it would persist throughout season 11.
Unless for some reason they were hoping for more then 1 more season, it seems silly to drop the main enemy at the start of the season. Now if they got renewed for 2 seasons plus (which sci-fi never does) then a new foe could've been in the offing.
Or perhaps Baal had a stake in here...perhaps Continuum would've been the end of season 11?
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Continuum strikes me as "mid season 2 parter".
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Continuum strikes me as "Moebius Rehashed".
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Well, there's that too
EDIT- Also, just listened to the audio commentary, Cooper mentions they actually shot a small scene for the end of AOT that sets up Continuum, but cut it because they felt there were too many endings and liked that last shot of the team in the gate ring. He only says that the scene was of them receiving a message from the Tok'ra as they're about to go on the mission. So, I guess that establishes the intent of Continuum taking place immediately after AOT.
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There's a real General Hammond in the US military!
At least we know where Hammond's been lately- Iraq!
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