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Jedimarine posted:
Continuum strikes me as "Moebius Rehashed".
Which is kind of funny since parts of Ark of Truth reminded me of "Threads Rehashed."
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Big SG-1 fan here. I started following the series about season 5 or so, and got myself up to speed quickly.
My though on AoT:
-Other than a token resistance to the idea, Jackson was oddly quiet on the idea of using the Ark, even knowing what it did. He's always been the 'free will' advocate, so it was a little odd. I guess he's decided that it was that desperate. I am glad he was arguing most forcefully to get rid of it at the end, though.
-Look, we know Teal'c is the baddest mammajamma in the SG universe, but did we really need him getting gutshot and walking from from Moria to Mordor, er, the Land of Evil to Celestia? 
-On the other hand, his talk with Tomin was incredibly powerful. Just when you think you have a measure of the big guy, he reveals something deeper.
-I too wish they'd spent more time developing the Ori storyline. I really think the Replicator subplot, though interesting, took away from the main plot.
-Morgan le Fay vs Adria: I was kinda underwhelmed
-Ditto the threat to Earth. I wasn't feeling suspense. I think it would've been better to have Adria order the attack, create the bit of urgency.
-Was I the only one sensing a slight Cameron/Sam vibe at the end there? Jack, the dude's stealing your woman!
Overall, a pretty good continuation, but I was hoping for something...more. Great acting all around.
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Lank_Pavail posted:
-On the other hand, his talk with Tomin was incredibly powerful. Just when you think you have a measure of the big guy, he reveals something deeper.
"My depth is immaterial to this conversation." 
Gateworld: Ark of Truth hits the DVD Top Ten
Stargate: The Ark of Truth is off to a great start in its North American DVD release, landing in the Top 10 on the national DVD sales chart in its first week.
The film ranked ninth on the chart, according to Video Business. Among direct-to-DVD releases, it was second only to Disney's Snow Buddies.
The Top 10 chart for the week is heavy with new releases, including DreamWorks's Bee Movie (first place) and recent Oscar winner No Country For Old Men (second). Disney's 101 Dalmations took third place in its second week of release.
Bee Movie earned about $50 million in its first week, according to Reuters. The Ark of Truth picked up 9.3 percent of that, according to the sales chart, or about $4.65 million. This was about $500,000 shy of eighth place.
The film had a reported production budget of $7 million.
The Ark of Truth has also sat at or near the top of Amazon.com's daily sales charts for the past several weeks.
Made 2/3rds of it's budget back in it's first week- seems like a pretty good start for something that was more fans-only. It'll be interesting to see how the next couple weeks pan out, performance wise.
Another article about Cooper's upcoming plans for SGA and SGU also mentions this: the decision on the next step [for SGU] currently rests with MGM -- as does the decision for a third SG-1 movie. An MGM representative told GateWorld that the studio is not ready to comment on either just yet.
I've read elsewhere that the US take for SG-1 DVDs end up being less than 30% of the total worldwide gross, so if that formula holds here, the movie has already likely doubled it's production cost. Bodes well for a third movie.
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 I believe O'Neill's replay was 'See? THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!'.
I'll be very glad to see RDA back for the next one. I've been missing his work as Jack.
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Jedi Merkurian
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Given the speech that Teal'c gave Tomin -and what a speech it was  - I was surprised that he lived to see the end of the movie.
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you know...when I first saw Teal'c "wake up" from being shot in the back...I thought for a brief moment that they forgot Junior wasn't there anymore.
Thankfully they avoided what would've been the eternal continuity sna*u to end sna*u's.
Anyone else worry about that for 5-10 minutes?
Another thing I noticed...if you watch the movie and then watch the clock on the DVD...right when Teal'c get's shot and the Odyssey runs...that's about half way through...like 45 minute mark.
Even though it's a "movie" they edited it together to play in a 2 hour block...including a cliffhanger for the first hour in case they later divided it into single hour episodes...
That's a pretty big hint to the TV people, ain't it.
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Not surprised they structured it that way- let's them sell it to TV markets easier after the DVD sales period dwindles.
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Yeah, this will no doubt be on Sci-Fi in a few years.
And I agree, I was kinda worried about that myself JM. Still, they had to show again that that which does ot kill Teal'c, just ticks him off when he finally catches up to you.
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So, did anybody else think of Two Towers during the opening credits? At one point, I leaned over to my wife and said "You shall not pass! I am a servant of the secret fire, wielder of the Fire of Arnor..."
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Jedi Merkurian posted:
So, did anybody else think of Two Towers during the opening credits? At one point, I leaned over to my wife and said "You shall not pass! I am a servant of the secret fire, wielder of the Fire of Arnor..."
Me and my buddy said the exact same thing to each other as we watched it...simultaneously!
Actually, he was ripping jokes on what was being spoofed through the whole movie:
Star Wars
Tolkien
Matrix
Terminator
Star Trek
Let's just say he was less then enthralled with the story.
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Ok, some cool news- first off, some more premise specifics about Continuum and it's release.
"This is the biggest, best thing I think I've ever done for Stargate," Wright said. "I'm very proud of it. You always have some small regret with something that you couldn't pull off. [You say] 'I wish we could have done this, I wish we could have had that.' [But] there are so few regrets with how Continuum turned out that it's not even worth mentioning. Martin [Wood] did such a good job directing it, and we had such a good time on set together."
The trailer for Continuum will make its world premiere Saturday at the official Stargate convention in Vancouver, and should appear online soon thereafter.
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Wright also described the scenario that will bring the Stargate to a ship lodged in the ice in the Arctic.
"The Stargate [was] at its most vulnerable in history -- or at least since it was dug up -- was when it was being transported from Africa to North America at the outbreak of World War II," he said. "So the Stargate is on its way across, Baal is going to sink the ship, [and] somehow an heroic act has to take place to stop the ship from being sunk.
"[And] what if the captain of that boat, by cosmic coincidence, happened to be the grandfather of Mitchell?"
When Baal succeeds in altering the timeline, SG-1 (with their memories intact, since wormhole travel essentially takes them out of space-time during the change) gates back to Earth only to find themselves in the cargo hold of the frozen ship, rather than at Stargate Command.
"And, of course, then there's the 'getting out of it' part -- which is the rest of the movie!" Wright added.
"It was so much fun. And the visual effects are among the best we have ever done. ... Craig, who used to be at Image Engine, his team did the F-16 flying sequences, and they're feature [film] quality. ... It's the big movie I always wanted to make, and it's not a hell of a lot smaller in scope than the one I would have put as a theatrical release. It feels like it could have been a theatrical release in many ways."
That premise actually sounds a lot cooler than Moebius ever did, so maybe it's less of a Moebius-retread than I initially suspected.
The other bit of news comes out of left field- they're making a Special Edition of Children of the Gods!!
"I saw it on television, and I thought, 'We can do better than this," series co-creator Brad Wright told GateWorld in an exclusive interview today. "And it wasn't just the visual effects -- it was the whole thing. It was the way we tell story. It was the whole 4:3 thing. And I thought the score and the music was so heavy-handed. And, frankly, there was some bad writing."
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But the two-part episode is not without its flaws -- most prominently a scene with full frontal nudity. In 1997 the decision was insisted upon by the Showtime network, which planned to air SG-1 at 10 p.m., but vocally opposed by Wright.
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"It doesn't belong in Stargate," Wright said. "I'm not a prude, [but] this is a family show. It has violence, there's no question it has violence, but it is almost always some sort of 'just' violence as opposed to random or gratuitous."
The special edition will not simply be a new cut, but a complete reworking of the film from original footage shot in 1997 -- plus some updates to the visual effects. Some scenes will be dropped to tighten it up, making "Children of the Gods" about seven minutes shorter than the version originally aired on Showtime and currently available on DVD.
"We went back to dailies," Wright said. "We are rescoring. There is new material, but most of the new material is visual effects or scenes that have been cut. It is tighter. It is significantly tighter. ... The editing pattern is different, and therefore the performances are different. It's a different movie."
The movie will have a new scene, and a slightly different beginning. It will be cut in 16:9 widescreen for the first time, and composer Joel Goldsmith will also revisit the score.
"Children of the Gods" worked well as a television pilot, but the producer's goal now is to make it a stand-alone movie rather than remaking it as a pilot. "Twelve years on, what is worth making is the movie -- the story of 'Children of the Gods' that is the movie," Wright said. "We spent a week or so recutting, editing, pulling some stuff out, updating the visual effects in many cases, [and] cutting out things I thought never belonged there (like the nudity)."
"Children of the Gods" will be ready for a DVD release by the end of 2008, though it is up to MGM and FOX Home Entertainment as to just when it will be available.
Ok, wow, did not expect that one, but I'm actually rather excited about the idea. The nudity never bothered me (at least it wasn't full frontal Don Davis! ), but there are things that feel a little off, looking back at COTG after being more familiar with the series, though the overuse of the Stargate theme (to A-Team pilot levels) in particular comes to mind, as well as that odd hybrid Death Glider with the rings (I bet that becomes a cargo ship or bomber).
Also, re-editing and recreating the pilot worked very well for Babylon 5's pilot movie, The Gathering, so the process does look promising.
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Jedimarine
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Ugh.
COTG: Director's Cut.
sheesh.
usually when you do this and "tighten" things up...that's not what fans are after.
I don't really care if they want to yank the nudity...but it is an indication of just where this series was originally...he can talk a big game about this being a "family show"...but SG has from the onset been a adult-oriented sci-fi show...it didn't pander overtly to the action figure age bracket.
I'd rather they go back and make the Original Motion Picture fit the continuity of the shows better.
Let's get a rework on that! Someone dub in a name drop on Carter and Hammond...that would ROCK!
The fact that they have time to blow on reworking the pilot makes me nervous...the production team is trying to create product on no budget so that it will be essentially ALL profit for MGM.
What's next...Season One: Special Edition?
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That all said, the Continuum thing sounds better then I was fearing...Oh PLEASE be better than AOT...PLEASE!
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The funny thing is, one little pet project I've been working on is an extended version of COTG, using flashback footage from Threshold, The Torment of Tantalus and the theatrical movie (as well as possibly integrating Enemy Within into it to make it a full "forging of SG-1" story as my itent with the project is to better integrate Teal'c into the story)...and now here they are shortening it
On the plus side, this re-edit may actually help my project and keep runtime in check.
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wow.
I tip my hat to you...you surpass my impassioned geekdom with the greatest of ease! 
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I like to edit things (you start with re-editing AOTC, next thing you know you're making an SG-1 music video which convinces you to re-edit COTG... )
Also, beware screaming fans: Continuum trailer con footage
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