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yodaminch
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11/30/07 11:22am
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RE: Rise to the Next Level- Heroes (Spoilers Allowed)
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He was suspicious and probably still is when Adam shot Victoria. And now Hiro is trying to kill him. Peter may still be a little confused, but he's not stupid. He may have to beat Hiro down first, but Adam will tip his hand upon seeing Hiro.
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Talon_Kenobi
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11/30/07 11:34am
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Plus out of all the Heros, Peter does know Adam the best. I mean he was stock in cell next to him for close to 4 months. He has no real reason not to trust Adam at first, but now I think he is getting doubts.
All though from released photos it looks like Matt and Nathan are going to get involved.
I also hope Mohinder calls Matt about Molly and Sylar. At this point he has no idea that Sylar has no powers. I would rounding up all the super powered people the company has working for them and heading to the apartment. If not I think a mind controlling cop would be good
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Leto II
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Date Posted:
11/30/07 1:51pm
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yodaminch posted:
He was suspicious and probably still is when Adam shot Victoria. And now Hiro is trying to kill him. Peter may still be a little confused, but he's not stupid. He may have to beat Hiro down first, but Adam will tip his hand upon seeing Hiro.
On that topic, Adam says to Peter, "Together, we're going to change history." I always thought of it in terms of the notable actions of today eventually become "history." For instance, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama could talk of "making history" or "changing history."
As I watched that moment again, it occurred to me that if you have a person that can travel in time under your control, you could quite literally mean, "Together, we're going to change ancient history."
Maybe one of Adam's goals is to go back in time, and undo what Hiro has done...and end up with the girl. Food for thought.
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12/3/07 7:03pm
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Wow. Nathan and Nikki are dead, and Adam is buried alive. On top of that, Sylar has his powers back and HRG is working for The Company again.
I'm hoping by March that Volume Three can be on the air . . . . dang writers' strike. 
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yodaminch
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12/3/07 7:08pm
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They said 2 heroes will fall. They didn't say DIE. Nikki probably did die, but they never showed me a charred corpse and this show is using the rules of any good comic so until I see some charred remains and Micah identifying them, I remain suspicious that they would orphan the kid. Noah and Nathan are proof of that. Maya as well now. And Nathan was next to a man who saw what healing blood can do and was exposed to 2 seperate heroes with that ability. If peter's blood can't heal, he's a failure. The thing about these 2 heroes specifically is they just started to get interesting and useful enough to help in the real world. I'm not so sure they are dead.
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KissMeImARebel
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12/3/07 7:16pm
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Folks on these boards will probably know what I mean when I say they killed the wrong brother.
I hope I'm wrong though and they bring him back.
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Leto II
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12/3/07 7:27pm
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Two Alias villains, trapped forever!
I absolutely loved Hiro's solution to the Adam-problem. Can you imagine a more terrible fate for a man who can live forever? He thought the cell at The Company was bad...imagine being stuck in a claustrophobic box for eternity. Another thing I liked about it was that the solution was one that Hiro was uniquely capable of dreaming up.
(Which isn't to say he might not be dug back up a few seasons from now, when the show's running out of steam...)
I don't think there's any hope for Niki, since we apparently saw her incinerated. I feel sorry for Ali Larter. She keeps dying in massive explosions. Though, at least in Final Destination 2, you got a slo-mo shot of her face melting off which CONFIRMED it. On the other hand, there may be hope for Nathan, since we still have an intact body.
It would be too cute by half to resurrect him with Claire's blood, after Adam's blood saved him only weeks prior. I think The Company shot themselves in the foot by assassinating Nathan, however. The murder only gives legitimacy to his claims. It's a conspiracy theorist's wet dream. I wonder if HRG is the assassin?
And that Angela Petrelli is one stone-cold bitch. Imagine watching your son's death play out on TV like that, and react the way she did? Tough as nails. Easily one of the most interesting characters on the show.
This episode got my heart racing more than any other episode this year. Too bad that it's now over indefinitely.
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Jedi_Johnson
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Date Posted:
12/3/07 7:29pm
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yodaminch posted:
And Nathan was next to a man who saw what healing blood can do and was exposed to 2 seperate heroes with that ability. If peter's blood can't heal, he's a failure.
It seems like Peter's blood should have healing properties too... at least thats what they want us to think. But since he just absorbed the power he may not be able to transfer it to others. Just a thought. The thing that confuses me is that Peter used to have to concentrate to use the powers of others. Now it almost seems natural. If he were still limited in that regard his blood would be useless I would think. Honestly I do hope they save Nathan somehow.
As for Niki I wasn't shocked to see her go. She'd been boring for a while anyways.
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KissMeImARebel
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12/3/07 7:33pm
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Leto II posted:
It would be too cute by half to resurrect him with Claire's blood, after Adam's blood saved him only weeks prior. I think The Company shot themselves in the foot by assassinating Nathan, however. The murder only gives legitimacy to his claims. It's a conspiracy theorist's wet dream. I wonder if HRG is the assassin?
Maybe Adam's blood is still in his system  That, or Peter can fix him, or Matt has his surgeon on speed dial. I was wondering about HRG too...I'd hate to think he shot the biological father of his own daughter - that just seems like too much, even for HRG. (That and I hate the idea that my favorite character shot my second favorite).
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And that Angela Petrelli is one stone-cold bitch. Imagine watching your son's death play out on TV like that, and react the way she did? Tough as nails. Easily one of the most interesting characters on the show.
She ordered the hit. I'm calling it now.
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12/3/07 8:42pm
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Adam can't die and regenerates. Why won't he just claw his way up zombie after a few hours/days? 
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yodaminch
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12/3/07 9:10pm
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he can't suffocate though? i find that interesting.
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KissMeImARebel
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12/3/07 9:12pm
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I guess his cells don't need oxygen to regenerate. 
If Hiro has any sense, he used a strong metal coffin.
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12/3/07 9:13pm
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What annoyed me, though, was that Peter's brother stages a news conference to bust up a massive, well-financed, corrupt organization -- even mentions his plans for it aloud IN THEIR HEADQUARTERS -- and doesn't bother to arrange any type of reasonable security for himself. He's got Parkman and his multipowered brother around him, and some clown gets a shot off?
What was Parkman doing? Peter? They knew The Company would make a move; they were supremely equipped to protect the flying Congressman, but didn't.
In all fairness, since we don't yet know who did the shooting, maybe Parkman couldn't get any reading on the person. The Haitian could have been involved (at least, I think the writers have finally decided that one of his powers is to dampen other people's powers). Or maybe there was too much interference with all those people for Parkman to get a read on the assassin.
And if HRG was indeed the assassin, his presence would of course play into the Haitian being there, for obvious reasons.
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yodaminch
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12/3/07 9:31pm
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KissMeImARebel posted:
I guess his cells don't need oxygen to regenerate.
If Hiro has any sense, he used a strong metal coffin.
Given the cemetary. I thought he stuck him in with daddy.
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12/4/07 4:24am
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Good but predictable episode last night. My thoughts:
*Hiro definintely made a mistake not killing Adam. I wonder how long before we see him again?
*I hope Nikki stays dead.
*Shouldn't somebody haved tried to stop the assassin from just getting away? I mean he just slowly walks away without any trouble.
*With Volume 3 being titled Villains I wonder what new characters we'll meet and what powers, if any, they'll have?
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