Author Topic: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
darth-sinister 
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Date Posted: 10/21/07 12:33pm Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
Actually, Singer is holding things up as he's filming "The Valkryie" (sp) and the upcoming WGA strike at the end of the month is what's holding things up.

 

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Date Posted: 10/22/07 8:23am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
SUPERMAN RETURNS WRITERS ARE OUT OF THE SEQUEL



Superman needs some ideas for what his next adventure might be.

"Superman Returns" scribes Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris have opted not to come back and pen a sequel to the 2006 summer pic that would have reunited them with helmer Bryan Singer. The three also worked together on "X2: X-Men United."

As a result, WB is now taking pitches for Supe's next outing from other scribes -- just as the studio is trying to figure out which actor will don the character's tights in "Justice League."

Industry chatter claimed the studio would start fresh with a new take on the Man of Steel, as if the previous pic never happened.

Reasons mentioned were the introduction of Superman's son with Lois Lane, as well as the film's less-than-expected domestic haul of $200 million and another $191 million overseas.

Marvel Studios is adopting that let's-try-again strategy with "The Hulk" at Universal, hoping a new pic, starring Edward Norton, will launch a franchise that Ang Lee's 2003 actioner failed to do.

But WB denies such plans and said next pic would be a sequel with Brandon Routh likely to wear the "S" on his chest again. Legendary Pictures is co-developing and co-financing the project.

New pic also will up the action quotient, however -- something Singer promised fanboys at last year's Comic-Con in San Diego.

Dougherty and Harris are pursuing more directing gigs, with Dougherty having recently completed "Trick 'R Treat" at WB as his first pic. He's also looking to pen a graphic novel and children's book.

Harris, who had previously helmed "Imaginary Heroes," is writing and directing "I, Lucifer," based on the book, with Daniel Craig attached to star.


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Sith_Sensei__Prime 
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Date Posted: 10/22/07 10:37am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
I'm just hoping that the next Superman flick could move past Lex Luthor. I'd like the franchise to move towards a final confrontation with Doomsday, where Superman does die.
With the final shot of Superman dead in Lois' arms and the fade to black.


No funerals, no montage, just the end. And then no Superman flicks for 9 years.

 

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Darth_Sabith 
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Date Posted: 10/22/07 10:49am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
I agree about the death of superman story but it'd be better to have it be the 3rd of these new ones. Maybe have doomsday appeare at the end of the credits type thing and have sups battle brainiac, Metallo, or Bazorro.

 

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darth-sinister 
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Date Posted: 10/22/07 12:40pm Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
While this is an interesting bit of news, we'll have to see if this will affect Singer's plans or not. At present, Lex is still involved along with another villian.

 

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Date Posted: 10/22/07 12:46pm Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
I don't think they'd work towards a Doomsday/Death of Superman arc now- that was my only real problem with Superman Returns, it basicly did the Death of Superman in spirit, so anything more would be redundant.

 

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Panther50 
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Date Posted: 10/22/07 5:00pm Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
Getting new writers can only be a good thing, after the borefest of Returns. Its just to bad they didn't decide to ignore it and pretend it didn't happen.

 

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darth-sinister 
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Date Posted: 10/23/07 12:12am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
Even if they stayed on, the action content is going to be upped.

 

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Sith_Lord_Linkoping 
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Date Posted: 10/23/07 5:50am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread - Date Edited: 10/23/07 5:51am (2 edits total) Edited By: Sith_Lord_Linkoping
Super Hero Hype posted:
SHH - Mark Millar to Pitch Superman Sequel

Source: Mark Millar October 22, 2007

With the news that Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris are not returning to write the Superman Returns sequel, Mark Millar wants to pitch Warner Bros. his vision of the franchise. He says on his official boards:

It's 8.58am right now, my guys at CAA get into the office in about seven hours and my call will be waiting for them to talk about this. I want to revamp Superman like Hillary wants thin ankles. Revamping this franchise is what I as given fingers for and so, invited or not, I'm putting my plan together now. I've been asked to work on half a dozen screenplays lately, but this is the only one I have ever truly wanted.

As most here know, I have literally hundreds of pages of notes and sketches just waiting for this opportunity. This would be my dream gig and, as a fan, I know exactly what this project needs to work. This has to be Superman for the 21st Century, keeping everything we adore, but starting from scratch and making the kids love it as much as the 30-somethings. I would honestly write this thing for free.

Anyway, my treatment is being polished as we type. Wish me luck. I want to do that Superman movie we all want to see.

 

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Date Posted: 10/23/07 9:09am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
"Superman for the 21st century"...that has me worried.

 

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Sith_Sensei__Prime 
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Date Posted: 10/23/07 9:39am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
Cellist posted:
"Superman for the 21st century"...that has me worried.




You're not the only one.



worried


From reading the posts here, most fans want Superman to move away from Lex Luthor and towards his other nemesis. I mean, people have seen Superman vs. Joe Criminal so many times on the silver screen, it's time the story arcs of the comic books come to life.

I would like to see Superman tested and challenged against a figure that is more his equal and not against some smart guy with a pocketful of kryptonite.

 

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darth-sinister 
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Date Posted: 10/23/07 11:06am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
It'd never happen. Not just the energy costume and powers, which wasn't all that bad of an idea, just poorly executed during the second half of the arc. But rather, it'd probably be what he wanted to do when he was set to write one of the books back in 1999, before a falling out with DC prevented it.

 

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Sith_Lord_Linkoping 
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Date Posted: 10/25/07 4:52am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
SHH posted:
SHH - WB Won't Take Millar for Superman

Source: Mark Millar, October 24, 2007

Just a few days ago, we mentioned that Mark Millar was serious about pitching a story for the Superman Returns sequel. Now, he's saying that Warner Bros. has already thrown out the idea, and the reason might surprise you:

Okay, as you know I was very excited about the opportunity that WB were looking for a new writer on this project. Superman is the be all and end all for me (he's why I started reading and why I started typing). It's funny how quickly news spread because one little post on my message board here ended up literally all over the comic book and movie sites inside about twelve hours and the response from fellow Superman fans was incredibly positive. Thanks again for that.

Anyway, my agent is a big beast at CAA and can set up meetings with anyone. I'm always amazed by this because, like all comic guys, I do this job in a converted attic at home on a rainy rock some miles from mainland Europe and about as far from Hollywood as you can get. But my agent got my call around 4pm my time on Tuesday and within hours we were talking on the phone to some very nice exec at Warner Bros who said that several producers and director friends had already been in touch to push me for the gig because they knew how passionate I was about this project. And for about fifteen minutes things were looking very sweet. I had a massive three-picture epic in mind, cribbed from notes I've been putting together for the last five years for a Superman comic-book revamp and the people I spoke to absolutely loved it. Everyone said this was very, very exciting, but...

Well, sadly, I'm a Marvel guy and we were surprised to find out that WB couldn't hire me for a DC property. They were incredibly nice and superbly apologetic about it, but when they discussed the matter seriously DC explained just how associated I am with Marvel Comics at the moment and it's against company policy to hire the competition. It's absolutely nothing personal. I spoke to some friends at DC and they explained this has happened with a couple of big Marvel writers in the last couple of years and I absolutely respect that. It's a business after all and to have a guy writing Fantastic Four, 1985, Kick-Ass and another super-big project for Steve McNiven this year which would be mentioned in every article about a Superman movie is not only an insult to their own writers, but makes bad business sense. I have nothing but respect for the DC high-ups and, though obviously disappointed, can absolutely appreciate their position. They're the custodians of these properties and they obviously know what they're doing.

So no Millar-penned Superman movie at this stage, I'm afraid. That situation may change, of course. As a Warner chum said to me last night, the last Superman movie had a number of starts and stops and who knows what will happen over the next couple of years, especially after my Marvel contract expires. In the meantime, I'm keeping my 200 pages of notes and sketches on a slow boil, just in case. As for the next movie, I wish whoever does land this gig nothing but the best of luck. I wanted to bring my vision to the screen out of nothing but pure love and hope to be as thrilled as everyone else. They're talking to a couple of guys with a better screen-writing track record and, like the rest of you, I'll keep my fingers crossed that this sequel to Bryan's first picture all works out great.

Thanks again for all the support and backing for my involvement in this project. It stunned me that the WB people had seen this and it absolutely factored in how quickly all those doors opened for me.

 

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Cryogenic 
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Date Posted: 11/3/07 9:59am Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:
darth-sinister posted:
JKH, you haven't read too many Superman stories then. He can be quite depressed and a bit moody about his ineffectiveness as Superman and his place in the world. As well as being the last Kryptonian. I suggest reading "Peace On Earth", "For Tomorrow", "The Journey", Action Comics #850, "Last Son", "The Supergirl From Krypton", "Metropolis Mailbag", "What's So Funny About Truth & Justice?", "Exiled" and broken engagement arc from 1996.


There's nothing wrong with Supes running the emotional gamut. It's what makes Superman II (either version) work so well. But SR handled those emotions in a much different way, which, now that I think of it, may be as simple as the difference between a clenched or unclenched jaw. Even when he was down in the depths, Reeve's Superman was on some level fighting it. You looked into his eyes and saw a STRUGGLE going on. Routh's eyes are mostly empty; he seems to surrender to the depression and in fact wallow in it.


That's because Christopher Reeve's performance and those of everybody he starred with was on a different plateau to Brandon Routh's and those of his co-stars. As was Reeve's physicality, his costume, the writing, the music, the effects . . .

 

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darth-sinister 
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Date Posted: 11/3/07 12:12pm Subject: RE: Superman: The Man of Steel (Tentative Title for SR Sequel) Thread
Reeve and Routh were in two different points of Superman's life, which is why their portrayals are different. Reeve was Superman who had not faced inner darkness. Reeve was a Superman who had not been lead to believe his world was alive, only to go back and find it wasn't so. Nor to come back and find that while the basics of the world have not changed, the lives of those closest to him have. Superman as a character goes through these emotional beats. From time to time he will be depressed about his lot in life, about his being the last of his kind. About the state of the world and how his personal life is. Every so often he will broad and carry the weight of the world on his shoulders.

 

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