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darth-sinister
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First off, it's not the end of 2007. It's about the end of summer. There's four more months left. Also, the script is still being written. Most of the time you don't greenlight without a script. We've also heard that so far, WB is keen on what Singer has pitched about MOS. JLA is being fast tracked because they have a director and a script. So it's been greenlit. WB is also paranoid that a strike will prevent them from having something out.
JKH, you haven't read too many Superman stories then. He can be quite depressed and a bit moody about his ineffectiveness as Superman and his place in the world. As well as being the last Kryptonian. I suggest reading "Peace On Earth", "For Tomorrow", "The Journey", Action Comics #850, "Last Son", "The Supergirl From Krypton", "Metropolis Mailbag", "What's So Funny About Truth & Justice?", "Exiled" and broken engagement arc from 1996.
BTW, Donner loved what Singer did. From before he even seen the film, when Singer pitched the story and asked for his blessing.
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon
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darth-sinister posted:
JKH, you haven't read too many Superman stories then. He can be quite depressed and a bit moody about his ineffectiveness as Superman and his place in the world. As well as being the last Kryptonian. I suggest reading "Peace On Earth", "For Tomorrow", "The Journey", Action Comics #850, "Last Son", "The Supergirl From Krypton", "Metropolis Mailbag", "What's So Funny About Truth & Justice?", "Exiled" and broken engagement arc from 1996.
There's nothing wrong with Supes running the emotional gamut. It's what makes Superman II (either version) work so well. But SR handled those emotions in a much different way, which, now that I think of it, may be as simple as the difference between a clenched or unclenched jaw. Even when he was down in the depths, Reeve's Superman was on some level fighting it. You looked into his eyes and saw a STRUGGLE going on. Routh's eyes are mostly empty; he seems to surrender to the depression and in fact wallow in it.
darth-sinister posted:
BTW, Donner loved what Singer did. From before he even seen the film, when Singer pitched the story and asked for his blessing.
Yeah, and I also heard that James Cameron liked Terminator 3. That doesn't mean it was a great movie.
I'm sure Donner liked the idea, because he probably envisioned a movie with capable and age-appropriate actors, as well as one that actually continued the visual and musical style of his original film beyond the occasional token quoting of John Williams themes. And perhaps without so many obvious rehashed lines and plot devices.
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redsabreanakin posted:
Oh please..give me a break. Like people are seeing Spiderman because of the acto? It's all about costumed spiderman and special effects.
Dancing, don't forget the dancing.
Yes, i am quite worried about the sequel also but I'm satisfied with SR enough to not care. It's a good movie no matter what anybody says.
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darth-sinister
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Jedi_Kerian_Halcyon posted:
There's nothing wrong with Supes running the emotional gamut. It's what makes Superman II (either version) work so well. But SR handled those emotions in a much different way, which, now that I think of it, may be as simple as the difference between a clenched or unclenched jaw. Even when he was down in the depths, Reeve's Superman was on some level fighting it. You looked into his eyes and saw a STRUGGLE going on. Routh's eyes are mostly empty; he seems to surrender to the depression and in fact wallow in it.
Well, look at it from his point of view. Clark knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is the last of his kind and the one person who can bring him the most happiness, has moved on. Or so he thinks at the outset. One of the key aspects of Superman is that every now and then he gets depressed about his being the last of his kind. It's only changed thanks to Krypto, Kara, Power Girl, Kandor and Chris. He no longer feels alone and isolated as Lara said in the first film.
Jedi_Kerian_Halcyon posted:
I'm sure Donner liked the idea, because he probably envisioned a movie with capable and age-appropriate actors, as well as one that actually continued the visual and musical style of his original film beyond the occasional token quoting of John Williams themes. And perhaps without so many obvious rehashed lines and plot devices.
He liked the concept in 2000 and he liked the final product in 2006. That's why Bryan Singer was there when the Donner Cut was given a private screening.
BTW, Christopher Reeve was 24 when he was playing Superman. The same age as Brandon Routh.
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You know, I gotta agree with one of the previous posters. The way the storyline works in SR is that Superman was gone for 5 years. Reeve played the role of Superman at the same age in STM, however, there wasn't a 5-year backstory of when he knew Lois Lane and worked at the Daily Planet. The casting, and emphasis on realism when comparing the storyline and age of the cast members was poorly done.
and WB is wisely waiting for that to run out so they can try again with the franchise and do a better job.
Singer is part Hollywood, part "other". It's not that I don't like his movies, there are things in SR that keep my full attention, and are original, and well-done. However, it's not a perfect movie. STM was a perfect movie (despite the fact that it was made in 1978) - the story, the casting, the concepts...it was a 3 Act movie and it played so naturally. You're not going to see movies like that today because big Studios are apt to make those "Spidermans" and "X-Mens"...it's all about the mighty dollar sign..."you have to make it like such and such, etc"; pathetic. Spielgerg or even Lucas would have done a better job, though I STILL like SR - I hated the casting choices! And the script could have been better. It's just not a perfect "Donner" Superman movie.
Singer went way too much for the feel of the Spider-Man movies.
Here's wishing that there is a Director out there who would make a movie out of self-expression and not just to match what everything else is like today.
a story that managed to discard all the spirit of Donner's original while being incredibly derivative, and too much moodiness.
Routh was very moody, and yet, he could have been directed with much more PAZAZZ... put a little life into it why don't you. But it's the acting method; a style of acting chosen by Singer. And some of it I liked; it's acting without much movement, for example, after Routh gets hit with the bullets and the bullet bounces off his eye and lands on the ground, he gives a slight, cool smile. Method acting. Cool, eh? That worked very well in that particular scene.
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Well, ISEB is saying that WB is still going forward with MOS. So it's not being shelved. And while Singer did capture the best of Donner, he also went in his own direction. Just as Donner kept the spirit of Superman without relying heavily on the comics.
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G4's ticker just said that it will have a Kryponian villain that he met during his pilgrimage before Returns
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I wish they had taken a version of Lex that was closer to Michael R’s portrayal in the TV series Smallville.
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VoicesFromKrypton.com has published part 2 of the interview with Gregory Noveck, senior Vice President Creative Affairs for DC Comics, who, among other things, is the liaison between DC and Warner Bros.
Noveck answers questions regarding the current status of the sequel to "Superman Returns" and "Justice League"...
Q: There are so many rumors on the Internet, including that Bryan Singer's Man of Steel is not happening. Is that film still on the table?
A: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Q: Well, the word is that it's been put on "indefinite hold" because of Justice League.
A: That's not true. The reason that Justice League is powering forward first is because the script came in and it was phenomenal.
Q: It's really that good?
A: It is, and that very rarely happens in Hollywood on a movie of this scale, and when it does you have no choice but to say, "We'd better catch lightning in a bottle and go!" All of a sudden, six months later, who knows what's going to happen? You want to hold on to those writers, you've got massive interest from directors, you land someone like George Miller, so you go. And in the middle of it all, you've got Bryan going off to make another movie, which was a passion project of his. When he comes back, we'll dive right in to Man of Steel. We're scripting and it's going to happen. We're not going to make it until the script is great, but we'll get there one way or the other and it's not going to take nine years.
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Awesome news, having confirmation that MOS is still going to happen. 
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Indeed. Though I personally never doubted MoS.
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I also assumed that this was a given, but official confirmation is always nice.
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I doubt it..and still do.
Not until I get a confirmation from Warner Bros..they are the ones holding things up...cause they are footing the bill..and don't want to lose money like they did on SR.
Course, they are not saying that it's their fault; over 10 years of rewrites, production, stupid pay or play clauses...there was no way that SR was ever gonna be in the black.
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