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henchman24
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Maybe if we are lucky they will cast a bunch of actors who have already played major roles in other scif-fi franchises, that would be a good idea =P
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The2ndQuest
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I wouldn't be surprised to see some familiar actors, since it'll still be shot in the same city/region.
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henchman24
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though you seemed to have missed it, my post was ALL sarcasm....
or perhaps you got it and were simply being realistic =)
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Jedimarine
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I'm wondering if MGM doesn't hold out until Continuum hits shelves and Atlantis finishes another season.
I think they are monitoring "Stargate Over-saturation" right now.
they don't want to be Star Trek...and we've had persistent Stargate for over a decade now.
Personally, I'm expecting, and wouldn't be surprised to see, they will hold off on Universe until Atlantis wraps entirely...perhaps even leave a year "without gate", just to wet the appetite.
Absence does make the heart grow fonder.
And then they can use all the Atlantis sets & props for Universe.
I think you can stick a fork in SG-1. AOT came a went with barely a murmur to the outside world. I wasn't expecting more even before AOT...but definitely now. The only reason they make a new SG-1 now, is to offset a "no" on Universe.
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The2ndQuest
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I still thunk Sci-fi/MGM will play it safe and ensure SGA stays on the air at least until SGU can get a season on the air. This way, if SGU bombs in the ratings, they can still fall back on SGA. If SGU is a hit, they can either drop SGA or run both shows ala SG-1/SGA did.
AOT's sales (and that of Continuum, I would image) will be what determines MGM's decision to go ahead with more movies or not, not hype. Initial sales are promising, though.
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Jedimarine
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The2ndQuest posted:
AOT's sales (and that of Continuum, I would image) will be what determines MGM's decision to go ahead with more movies or not, not hype. Initial sales are promising, though.
By whose estimate? I know it was top 10 in sales...but it's up against nothing in a very SLOW season...it would've been egregiously disastrous if it didn't show at least that well.
I personally got my copy as an Easter gift...and I would wager I'm not alone in that...so that's a benefit.
They released just before a holiday in a dirt slow season...and it came in 9th in sales.
Do you really feel energized?
will a 70% sales decline be acceptable for week 2? Cause that's typical even for blue chip releases.
And you're wrong...hype is everything in this business...because hype and moving product are like 2 butt cheeks wiggling together. If they don't get press on G4 or Sci-fi or the news channels...even online outside the gate sites...who is gonna buy it except the fans who have bought the series religiously (but was not sufficient to keep the show going regularly).
Trust me...they are monitoring fan interest and "buzz" because they are waivering on the investment...it's not a "lets see if the investment makes a marked returned"...that's a given right now...it's "if we do this 2 more times...4 more times...will we see the same or slightly less return...more?"
They aren't going to green light 3 or 4 and watch for the profit margin to shrink...ergo...it is about "buzz"...it is hype.
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Koohii
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Actually, it's the 4th series. Don't forget the animated cartoon.
Heh, it was bad, but better than Highlander: The Animated Series, so don't gripe too much.
SG1 had 9 strong years. There was one (7 I Think) that was pretty weak.
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Koohii posted:
Actually, it's the 4th series. Don't forget the animated cartoon.
That's not canon though. We are SUPPOSED to forget about that show because apparently it was terrible.
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Jedimarine posted:
will a 70% sales decline be acceptable for week 2? Cause that's typical even for blue chip releases.
And you're wrong...hype is everything in this business...because hype and moving product are like 2 butt cheeks wiggling together. If they don't get press on G4 or Sci-fi or the news channels...even online outside the gate sites...who is gonna buy it except the fans who have bought the series religiously (but was not sufficient to keep the show going regularly).
Trust me...they are monitoring fan interest and "buzz" because they are waivering on the investment...it's not a "lets see if the investment makes a marked returned"...that's a given right now...it's "if we do this 2 more times...4 more times...will we see the same or slightly less return...more?"
They aren't going to green light 3 or 4 and watch for the profit margin to shrink...ergo...it is about "buzz"...it is hype.
Well, fan buzz and actual sales are still different factors- if something could survive on fan buzz alone, we'd still have Serenity films or shows being made. It's the worldwide sales that MGM will look at, since SG-1 does the majority of it's DVD business overseas. I've read a few anecdotes about AOT getting noticed by more salespersons and customers due to the flow of AOT sales they see.
Come to think about it, I suspect MGM will wait to see how Continuum's debut sales compare to AOT's and see if there's been any drop off.
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Jedimarine
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The2ndQuest posted:
Well, fan buzz and actual sales are still different factors- if something could survive on fan buzz alone, we'd still have Serenity films or shows being made.
The difference is between "fan buzz" and a real media phenomenon.
fan buzz is nearly a perpetual thing anymore, for any fanbase in existence.
I'm talking about a buzz that gets other people talking...without it, you can't sustain success.
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Jedimarine
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You know what could also weigh on SGU.
The Stargate MMO.
It seems clear they intend to branch this out to as many markets as they can...and if Universe can market to the MMO...or more over, they can get players to tune in to Universe...it all comes together.
Of course, if no one plays Universe...then so much for a cross media campaign.
(has everyone seen the trailer for Stargate:Worlds? When did Master Chief join an SG team? I smell a rendering cop-out.)
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I suspect they're just showing off some of the armor and helmet stuff you can use. We've seen there are non-helmeted, show-style faces in the commercials for the MGM contest to get your face in the game.
I'm also not sure how much direct crossover SGU and SGW can have- the former being set "present day" while the latter will be set between Seasons 8 & 9. Though perhaps elements or characters introduced in SGW will pop up "a few years down the line" in SGU.
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SGU Premise Revealed!
"The idea of Stargate Universe is that it is set on a ship that was part of an Ancient experiment that was set in motion probably millions of years ago -- one that they never saw to fruition, but that we can," Wright told GateWorld exclusively. "They got busy with the whole ascension thing."
The experiment is "to send a ship across the universe, and to send one ahead of it to seed the galaxies with Stargates, and that they would one day use the ninth chevron to get there [to the ship]. And that's what Stargate Universe is."
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The series was pitched to SCI FI Channel last fall, just before the writer's strike -- which put a hold on the project. "The pitch was received very well," Wright said. "[But] we pitched an expensive series -- the idea we have is not cheap. I think we've proven ourselves, so ... 'Can we please have enough money to do it right this time?' And, if not, then honestly I don't want to do it. Why do it wrong?"
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The strike and the potential cost of Stargate Universe are not the only reasons the show is not yet moving forward.
"Part of the reason it's taking a while is that Atlantis is currently on-going, and because we didn't want to go into development with anything during the writer's strike -- because it seemed inappropriate. Even though we're Canadian, we recognized it is for the American marketplace."
"Internally, Robert and I are a little bit torn, because we had such a great time making The Ark of Truth and Stargate: Continuum. Making one or two of those a year would be a damn fine thing to do! Honestly, it takes up a big chunk of time writing it, a big chunk of time making it, and then the post on a movie is more than twice as complicated as post on the biggest episodes. So it's not like you can just knock one off while you're making a television show. It's just too much."
Wright said that he is not anxious to return to a schedule that requires the Vancouver team to produce 40 hours of television each year, indicating that Stargate Universe may wait until Atlantis has concluded its run.
When the show does begin, Wright believes that it has to both move the franchise forward to attract new viewers, and remain true to the established formula. "It has to feel like Stargate, and it has to feel new. That's the tight rope, that's the balance you have to maintain, and that's the challenge.
"To put it in its simplest terms, if we had ever just done SG-2as a series it would never have worked. It's not the C.S.I. model."
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Interesting idea. It sounds like this show will delve into the nitty-gritty of the Stargate actually works. I don't think that's ever been explained in detail before. This could be very intriguing. 
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Looks like it's a choice between going with Universe or doing more SG-1 movies, as long as Atlantis keeps going.
Gateworld; Wright: Stargate Universe news may be close
Stargate fans may not have to wait much longer to find out when the franchise's third live-action series is coming to television. Series co-creator Brad Wright told Newsarama.com that he expects to hear word from the network soon.
The series, Stargate Universe, was first revealed to GateWorld in 2007 (story) and pitched to SCI FI Channel last fall (story). The decision was delayed by the writer's strike, but is also complicated by the on-going success of Stargate Atlantis (renewed and now in production for Season Five) and SG-1's direct-to-DVD movies.
"Stargate Universe is very much something we have been discussing with SCI FI and MGM for a long time ... too long actually," Wright told the site. "They need to make some decisions. I think we are at the point of finding out soon. We know what we are doing and what we want to do."
The writing staff and production crew managed to produce both Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis simultaneously for three years, though 40 hours of television proved to be a very difficult task. In 2007, one series and two DVD movies was a more manageable work load.
"Making one or two [films] a year would be a damn fine thing to do, honestly," Wright told GateWorld in a recent interview. It takes up a big chunk of time writing it, a big chunk of time making it, and the post [production] on a movie is more than twice as complicated as post on the biggest episodes. It's not like you can just knock one off while you're making a television show. It's just too much."
Thus two television shows and an SG-1 movie seems out of the question. Either the next movie would have to wait, or Universe can't get going until Stargate Atlantis ends. That is the decision that MGM and SCI FI have been wrestling with.
"We are excited about the prospect but as long as Atlantis is going strong and as long as there are prospects for new movies, it doesn't matter to me if my next project is two more movies for next year," Wright told Newsarama. "Essentially, we would put a third series off another year, but MGM wants one. They know the franchise is still strong."
Does that mean that MGM believes the third TV series is a higher priority than the third DVD movie? Only time will tell. Stargate's production schedule runs from February to October -- leaving plenty of time to gear up for a 2009 premiere of the third series, should it be given the go-ahead soon.
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