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rumsmuggler
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6/19 12:50pm
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interesting.
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Jedimarine
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I think a decision will be held in check until Continuum drops...I've thought that all along.
If Continuum can convince us that the team is not too old and their antics too out of their element...then by all means give me more SG-1...O'Neill grade.
Otherwise...put SG-1 out to stud and start a new series...heck...bring in Browder and Black if you want...the crushes in that casting circus are just repugnant.
what I don't want to see is slipping quality serial films when solid tv programing could be had.
I will NOT go on forever buying these movies.
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The2ndQuest
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::looks at the threads marine posts in::
Yes, you will 
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Jedimarine
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The2ndQuest posted:
::looks at the threads marine posts in::
Yes, you will
You're talking to the guy who in many was believes this show ended at the end of season 8.
I may watch like a sucker...but I don't buy like one...not even star wars has the magic word to open my wallet anymore.
I'm getting miserly in my advancing years. 
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The2ndQuest
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Stargate at Comic-Con
Wright reportedly told the crowd that MGM wants both a third DVD movie and the third television series, Stargate Universe, to move forward. Deals are reportedly very close, but nothing has yet been made official.
"We're very close," Wright told GateWorld when we contacted him for further comment. "[That's] all I can tell ya."
Apparently, even with SGU going forward, both Wright and SFC are not done with SGA yet.
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Jedimarine
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Talk is cheap...these convention proclamations.
Show me a deal...why is it taking so long?
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The2ndQuest
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I think the delays in getting the two movies on shelves, combined with the writer's strike, also pushed back SGU development. And now that they have solid numbers for AOT, SGA S5 and, soon, initial numbers for Continuum, they're past the possible hump of having too many projects out there at once, and something to work forward from.
There was a rumor that Wood or Wright was pushing for a larger budget for SGU as well, which, if true, would probably depend on the performance of all three of the above.
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More Stargate is always good news. In Aust, they recently showed the Rep's attack on Atlantis, stranding them in interstellar space. The first season or two is always painfully droll, then they start kicking . . . 
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I still feel Atlantis had one of the strongest first seasons a show has ever had. With exception to 1 or 2 episodes like the one with the kids, it felt like a tightly structured season, with a direction the whole thing was moving in, while positioning itself to be a darker show than SG-1.
*some* of that carried over to Season 2 (mostly just with the tone) but season 2 had less structure and aim, suffered from having to setup the major cast change, and had to have Season 3 focus more on character episodes and team camaraderie-building to compensate. Also it's major episodes- The Lost Boys 2 parter and Allies finale, fell flat as far as event-episodes go, which diminished the impact of the season as awhole.
Which is not to say Season was not without it's highlights. Siege part 3, Trinity, Critical Mass, Grace Under Pressure and Inferno are some of the best episodes in the franchise.
Season 3 and 4 have gradually felt lighter after they got past the initial Michael arc, which makes sense as they've gradually begun getting an upper hand on the Genii, Wraith and, now, the Asurans. SG-1 had a similar pattern- things were looking pretty good for the SGC and it's allies at the onset of Season 5. Then Anubis entered the picture and tore all that down. Hopefully we'll start seeing something like that with SGA without having to resort to "bigger and badder", and instead go with "different and tricky to counter".
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Jedimarine
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See I have never seen Atlantis as any darker.
The Wraith may have been portrayed in a slightly more sinister tone, but I don't see them as being much more nasty then the Goa'uld.
Contrast that to the Atlantis crew, who seem to be in some bizarre cross between the "reality" of SG-1, and the pseudo Star Trek concept they were pursuing.
Weir from the beginning took the balls right out of the show...and Shepard's "O'Neill"ish sacrastic wit comes off more often as vicious then as lighthearted.
McKay really was the show for the duration that I watched with even "semi-regularity"...but his C-3P0 fatalism...they can only go to that well so many times.
Is Jewel Staite even still on the show?
Personally, I find the show lacks the central cohesion that SG-1 enjoyed...and whether lighter or darker, it wouldn't matter when faced with the fact that you simply don't care about these characters.
I said after the first season, they should strip down the cast to simple cameos for the city people and make a team that was the primary focus...which I think they were going to do except for the cast musical chairs.
I also find that Atlantis is far more "serialized" than SG-1...making it next to impossible to get in unless you are in at least from a season premiere...even the "light" episodes will often make allusions to the overarching plot that is in play...which can throw the casual viewer.
I don't know what to expect from SGU...but what I hope for is a big universe from eyes of a tight knit few...that's what made SG-1 great to me.
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Jewel is now a regular this season, yes.
Never had a problem with Weir, myself. I liked her for the most part. Shep never struck me as an O'Neill clone- yeah there's a smarmy wit to him, but Shep always seemed more laid-back than O'Neill. Jack's sarcasm tended to be either the result of growing anger or sidelines mockery- kinda ranging from "Oh, that's it!" to "Oh, this outta be good- let's sit back and watch." Shep's sarcasm seems to be mostly people/situation getting crazy/ahead of him or from going-with-the-flow, ranging from "wait a minute here now" to "well, why not?". I know those are generalities, but that's the best way I can describe the distinction I see.
As for the darker tone- there are things like the first season episode where the guy whose been partially fed on by a Wraith uses the gun on himself to end his misery- I just get the impression we wouldn't see that kind of twist happen on SG-1, it'd have a happier ending on that show. And since Season 1 built to "the Wraith are coming", there was an impending sense of doom throughout most of the season, as opposed to just a couple episodes, that we didn't really get on SG-1 until Season 9.
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Jedimarine
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Didn't season one of SG-1 end with Apophis coming for earth with Klorel?
and that was set up by the "alternate universe" episode with jackson..."they're coming".
I always saw Weir as being a little too "starry eyed" for command...the episodes where she had to have conviction were always painted as a challenge for her...could she have the guts.
Which is sad, cause Jessica Steen...the original Weir...had a serious edge that probably would've made Weir a fan favorite on Atlantis.
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SG-1 S1 did hhave that, but it was mostly just the last 2-3 episodes. IIRC, SGA S1 had it as a theme for a more extended period of time (at least 4-5 episodes, if not more).
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I still feel Atlantis had one of the strongest first seasons a show has ever had.
Totally agree with you. I only liked a few SG-1 episodes, and didn't care for the show to be honest. But after watching the first season of Stargate Atlantis, I was hooked only on that particular show. If the next series isn't like SG-1, but more fantasy-based like Atlantis, I think I;d probably like it.
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Well, one of the key factors in the franchise's appeal is that it is anchored in the real world and present day. SG-1 had a little more of that since they were based on Earth. Atlantis isn't so much as more-fantasy than just using everything SG-1 built up and developed over the years.
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