| Author |
Topic:
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
Jedi_Master_Conor
Title: Manager:
• SFF: Movies
• Box Office Host
Registered:
May '05
|
Date Posted:
7/11/07 12:55pm
Subject:
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
- Date Edited:
7/11/07 12:55pm (1 edits total)
Edited By:
Jedi_Master_Conor
|
So OOTP was released today. I saw it and thought it was pretty good. Now we should probably turn to HBP now.  Can't wait to see Snape finally get the DADA position and then probably what everyone looks forward to seeing is how they handle Snape offing Dumbledore. I think it'll be a safe bet when this comes out that scene will be the most emotional one to date in all the HP movies. It's scheduled for a Nov 2008 release I believe. At least we won't have a gap again with a year of no Harry Potter stuff.
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
-polymath-
Title: SFF:F/TV Trivia Host
Registered:
Jun '07
|
Date Posted:
7/11/07 12:56pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
- Date Edited:
7/11/07 12:56pm (1 edits total)
Edited By:
-polymath-
|
|
Premature. That is all.
-----signature-----
SFF Films & TV Trivia Contest: Subject is "Serenity/Firefly"
**Question Seven Posted**
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
ObiWan506
Title: JC Head Admin
Registered:
Aug '03
|
Date Posted:
7/11/07 1:10pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
|
As soon as I read HBP the one thing I couldn't wait to see on the big screen was the cave scene and the Death Eaters invading Hogwarts. That's going to be something and I can't wait. Filming begins this fall and it will be out next year.
-----signature-----
If you have any questions about Christianity and/or Jesus, I'd love to talk to you. Please PM me.
"Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved!" Acts 16:31
------
Yes, I am a sinner. So are you. We all have a Savior.
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
NateCaauwe
Registered:
May '05
|
Date Posted:
7/11/07 2:18pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
|
If Yates handles Dumbly's death anything like Sirius' then I'm kinda worried. But then again Sirius' death was a little...different than your traditional avada kedavra (In the book at least).
-----signature-----
http://NateCow.com http://PixelCorps.com http://twitter.com/NateCow "Never ask a man what kind of computer he uses. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If he's not, why embarrass him?" -Tom Clancy
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Moleman1138
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered:
Aug '04
|
Date Posted:
7/11/07 6:23pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
|
It's only a 16 month 10 day wait. I'm really interested in seeing what the Astronomy Tower will look like since it's one of the first sets they're already illustrating.
-----signature-----
Host of CBC (Chapter by Chapter) for PT, CT and SFF forums and Box Office Game
ROTS-DS Chapter 3: Seeds of Rebellion
FOTR Chapter 29: Bilbo's Gifts
TSS Chapter 17: Facts and Feathers
(8/24/07)
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Katana_Geldar
Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU
Registered:
Mar '03
|
Date Posted:
7/11/07 10:02pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
There's really one thing I'm looking forward to The Phoenix Lament. That scene was made for film. 
-----signature-----
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
darth_paul
Registered:
Apr '00
|
Date Posted:
7/11/07 10:16pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
Yates says he anticipates HBP will be a very different experience. Which is good news to me. I didn't hate OotP, but I didn't love it either (when I've got more time to be longwinded I'll post my thoughts in the OotP thread), and I was disappointed at the end to know that Yates would be continuing with the next film. I've actually thought having fresh blood every time after Columbus has been positive overall for the series (though I dearly wish Cuarón would return!), and Yates's work did not scream instant keeper to me. But if he really will make a substantially different movie next time around, it might at least keep things flowing and fresh in the way changing directors has.
I think HBP is going to be a very challenging book to adapt, because it's structurally so odd. Much of the main story isn't really that important in the long run at all, and the heart of the book, what's really important, is all in the last eighty pages or so. We spend major portions of the book in the Pensieve, and none of that can really be cut back, because it is all supremely important in establishing Voldemort's past, present, and future, which seems to be the main work of HBP. And, its main stories, such as they are, don't really properly resolve at the end of the book; I've said ever since my first reading that it's distinctly the first part of a two-parter, inseparable from whatever Deathly Hallows will bring. There is a lot in the book begging for the big screen, but the book overall is I think probably the hardest to adapt smoothly of the series, and I'm going to be very interested to see how they handle it.
-Paul
-----signature-----
So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
yankee8255
Registered:
May '05
|
Date Posted:
7/12/07 2:20am
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
NateCaauwe posted:
If Yates handles Dumbly's death anything like Sirius' then I'm kinda worried. But then again Sirius' death was a little...different than your traditional avada kedavra (In the book at least).
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I've never liked his death in the book. It´s such a dud.
Yates has a second problem to deal with, too, imo -- Sirius's character was never developed as well in the films as in the books, which is my big problem with Cuaron#s POA. The bond between him and Harry just doesn't quite work. So for people who haven#t read the books, I think it's only natural that they're left scratching their heads when that scene comes in the movie.
-----signature-----
A perfect world: a house in the Hamptons with two solaria and a horse named Prickely Pete,
Dr. van Nostrand as my primary care physician,
the O-OT legally available on DVD in a quality worthy of its greatness
and Luke the undisputed hero of Star Wars
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Darth-Ghost
Registered:
Oct '03
|
Date Posted:
7/12/07 2:48pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
I was worried about hearing they already picked Yates again, but after seeing OOTP today I'm happy. There were only one or two little details I didn't like, but I think he capptured the magic and the heart of the books perfectly.
It'll be interesting how they do HBP, though. Very different movie.
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Moleman1138
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered:
Aug '04
|
Date Posted:
7/12/07 3:42pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
|
OOTP makes me want the next installment more than any other. The opening is what is going to be difficult. Do you start with The Other Minister, Spinner's End or The Dursleys. I prefer the latter unless the scene before it is very very short.
-----signature-----
Host of CBC (Chapter by Chapter) for PT, CT and SFF forums and Box Office Game
ROTS-DS Chapter 3: Seeds of Rebellion
FOTR Chapter 29: Bilbo's Gifts
TSS Chapter 17: Facts and Feathers
(8/24/07)
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Darth-Ghost
Registered:
Oct '03
|
Date Posted:
7/12/07 4:00pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
Moleman1138 posted:
OOTP makes me want the next installment more than any other. The opening is what is going to be difficult. Do you start with The Other Minister, Spinner's End or The Dursleys. I prefer the latter unless the scene before it is very very short.
I think it will start with Spinner's End, but be much shorter. That really sets up the entire book, with the unbreakable vow, tying Snape to Draco and leading to Dumbledore's eventual death.
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Moleman1138
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered:
Aug '04
|
Date Posted:
7/12/07 4:34pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
|
Would it work with Snape offscreen. He's there we just don't see him to surprise the ending.
-----signature-----
Host of CBC (Chapter by Chapter) for PT, CT and SFF forums and Box Office Game
ROTS-DS Chapter 3: Seeds of Rebellion
FOTR Chapter 29: Bilbo's Gifts
TSS Chapter 17: Facts and Feathers
(8/24/07)
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
darth_paul
Registered:
Apr '00
|
Date Posted:
7/12/07 5:12pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
I think you cut The Other Minister, because it's basically irrelevant. In the book, it serves to answer an audience curiosity about how government works, and as a way to do a little summary of the events of the preceding books. But unless there's something major in DH involving the Muggle government, there would be no reason to put that scene in the movies, ever.
I say begin with Spinner's End. It's dark and creepy, and it establishes really useful backstory and an undercurrent of foreboding that will run across the work. It will only be a few minutes, and can kick things off. Then we go to the Dursleys', but spend as little time there as possible -- the time there is short in the book, and should be done in a very few minutes in the film.
-Paul
-----signature-----
So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Darth-Ghost
Registered:
Oct '03
|
Date Posted:
7/12/07 5:30pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
darth_paul posted:
I think you cut The Other Minister, because it's basically irrelevant. In the book, it serves to answer an audience curiosity about how government works, and as a way to do a little summary of the events of the preceding books. But unless there's something major in DH involving the Muggle government, there would be no reason to put that scene in the movies, ever.
I say begin with Spinner's End. It's dark and creepy, and it establishes really useful backstory and an undercurrent of foreboding that will run across the work. It will only be a few minutes, and can kick things off. Then we go to the Dursleys', but spend as little time there as possible -- the time there is short in the book, and should be done in a very few minutes in the film.
-Paul
Exactly as I see it happening. It also establishes that Draco and Snape will be major characters again, setting up the rest, and adding real foreboding to why Harry feels he must find out what Draco is up to, and the strange accidents happening around Hogwarts (because of Draco) besides the usual rivalry.
Snape and Draco rule this movie, second only to Harry and Dumbledore, and maybe Slughorn. The rest of the story is basically Harry/Ginny & Ron/Hermione, Potions class, and Dumbledore's lessons.
Throw in OWL results, an Apparation lesson, the Slug Club, the twins' shop, Aragog's death, Felix Felicis, the Daily Prophet reports of the ongoing war, a short part with the Dursleys, and maybe Fleur/Bill & Tonks/Lupin, and you've got your story!
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
DarthAJ
Registered:
Dec '04
|
Date Posted:
7/12/07 7:26pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
|
As my favorite of the series, I can only hope Yates treats Prince right. I'm really looking forward to the LV Pensive scenes as well as the "Lightning-Struck Tower". The whole battle at Hogwarts has a very cinematic quality to it that I hope he will be able to convey to the screen. Can't wait for November '08!
-----signature-----
:]
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Bacon164
Registered:
Mar '05
|
Date Posted:
7/12/07 10:51pm
Subject:
RE: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ***Spoilers***
|
I can already see the main titles flashing by in the clouds as we move down towards Spinner's End to spot Bella and Narcissa rushing towards Snape's home. It's a perfect opening in a cinematic sense, much more so than a scene about politicians we really could care less about.
I hope that Dumbledore's return to Privet Drive will mirror his arrival in the first film as far as camera angles, editing, and music is concerned.
-----signature-----
aqua is a better color than bushes
|
|
|
Quote Reply |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
