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NateCaauwe
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1/5 12:59am
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DorkmanScott posted:
NateCaauwe posted:
he over-covers things in scenes that we really don't need to be paying as much attention to (why do we need three or four shots in a row (and also cross the line) of Harry cowering against the wall (oh, and why doesn't Harry get behind the wall?) while the two greatest wizards in history battle it out behind us?)
I have to disagree with this point. The movie's about Harry and we should never lose sight of where he is during all of this. As cool as the battle scene is, they're fighting over Harry and it's important to keep track of what he's doing, because HE is the stakes in the battle that makes it meaningful.
True, and looking again I guess it wasn't as excessive as I thought, but although I didn't mention it before, I always think the shot of Bellatrix leaving is too long, and leaves me screaming at the screen wanting to see what's happening. Maybe they wanted that affect 
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Granted, he wasn't doing MUCH, but as to your second point: not only was he not really in his right mind, but we all know that as a character he's not a run-and-hide type. I would say he's frozen in grief/fear/awe, and the few times he gets his wits about him enough to move, he goes towards the fight, because that's the way he is. Makes perfect sense to me that he wouldn't get behind the wall, even though COMMON sense says he probably should have.
Touché, as usual 
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And the line crossing didn't bother me because it didn't disorient me. The only reason it's a problem is if it causes confusion, and it didn't for me.
In this scene, maybe not, but other places in the film I don't quite feel the same. Some of the line crossing just felt unnecessary, as if they couldn't decide which shot they liked best, so they chose both. This one in particular serves no purpose in my opinion:
 
As the scene continues, the cuts form a bit of a zig-zag as we play hop-scotch with the line, zeroing in on Harry in the exact same position. It's interesting when you really notice what they're doing, but it doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose to me.
Anywho, I don't want to continue steering us off of HBP discussion...my point is Yates' style just doesn't sit well with me, and it saddens me to think about what could happen to HBP. But again, I can at least hope that by some miracle we get something better.
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Radical-Edward
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1/9 5:52pm
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Count_Doodie posted:
Nate, and Vortigern in what way did OotP "drop the ball"?
i thought OotP was near perfect, what did i mess?
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Are you sure that you walked into the right movie theater? OotP was the Fifth Harry Potter film. Starred three kids and a bunch of British thespians? There were a lot of cuts, little consistency, no emotional impact, and a toilet-paper thin storyline that only resembled the book it was based off of in the most superficial of ways. Maybe you went into the theater that was showing the Bourne Ultimatum or somesuch.
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Count_Doodie
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the Bourne Ultimatum? ... you mean that film with the seizure inducing camera work designed to disguise the fact that that Greengrass cant frame a shot? ? no. no i'm sure i sure it was harry potter that i was watching.
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Katana_Geldar
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Date Posted:
1/29 4:32pm
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OOTP was IMHO where Micheal Gambon made it and I was convinced he was a good Dumbledore even if he isn't anything on Richard Harris.
But there was a lot of stuff in OOTP that was important in later books that was just glossed over. The mirror that Sirius gave Harry, Kreacher's role in Sirius's death, the fact that Harry can possess Voldemort and Naguini, the locket...
I'm re-reading Deathly Hallows at the moment, ajnd for the life of me I can't figure out how they're going to do that film and HBP with some of the critical stuff in OOTP missing. Phoenix is a long book, and some of the stuff needed to be trimmed as it was completely necessary (like the St Mungo's sequence). But if you take certain critical stuff out, like the locket for instance, what the hell are you supposed to do?
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Katana_Geldar
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Don't know if you guys had heard, but there's rumours that Spielburg could direct Deathly Hallows.
If that happens, could he call on one of his friends to help, dare we say flannel?
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Spiderfan
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Seems odd that Spielberg would just jump onto the tail end of a franchise like this. I am not saying that its not true and wouldn't be cool, but I am remaining skeptical for now.
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DorkmanScott
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Spiderfan posted:
I am not saying that...wouldn't be cool
I am.
Not that I don't love Spielberg, but I know the Deathly Hallows movie he'll make, and I'd rather see someone else's. Specifically Cuaron's.
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Spielberg was one of the first directors approached to direct Sorcerer's Stone. It would be really amazing if he does Deathly Hallows.
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yodaminch
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If he did do Deathly Hallows,hopefully one good thing is we'd get John Williams back for the score. 
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Vortigern99
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2/4 8:49am
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I am a HUGE fan of Spielberg's, but my concern is that he would take too much creative liberty with the source material. On that score, I rather wish that Columbus had stayed with the franchise, since his first two films in the series were almost exactly like the books. Spielberg, on the other hand, is too much of an 'auteur' to stay within the guidelines set forth in Rowling's wonderful novel.
I too would prefer to see Cuaron return for DH, since the moodiness and magical mystery of the book were so brilliantly captured in his PoA.
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Vortigern99 posted:
I am a HUGE fan of Spielberg's, but my concern is that he would take too much creative liberty with the source material. On that score, I rather wish that Columbus had strayed with the franchise, since his first two films in the series were almost exactly like the books. Spielberg, on the other hand, is too much of an 'auteur' to stay within the guidelines set forth in Rowling's wonderful novel.
I too would prefer to see Cuaron return for DH, since the moodiness and magical mystery of the book were so brilliantly captured in his PoA.
PoA imo is the best movie so far, and Spielberg would make a even better movie than that imo. Let him go all out and make it go out with a bang.
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Still nothing from the Spielburg camp, hopefully he'll say something soon. And it'll be fantastic if John Williams comes back
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Count_Doodie
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for those who didnt like the epilogue... imagine seeing it on screen. in the hands of spielberg...does anyone remember the "happy ending" to A.I? hehehe
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Vortigern99
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I could be wrong, but I for one feel 100% certain that Steven Spielberg is not going to direct the final Harry Potter film. It's simply not the kind of material he deals with, or has ever dealt with, whatever his talent for making adventure and sci-fi films. It's also extremely unlikely for a filmmaker of his status to come into a franchise with the last installment.
It might happen, I suppose, but let's just say... I'll believe it when I see it.
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Spiderfan
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Vortigern99 posted:
It's also extremely unlikely for a filmmaker of his status to come into a franchise with the last installment.
IIRC he was supposed to direct ROTJ, but couldn't because George had left the DGA and they wouldn't let Spielberg work for him. He also did some stuff for ROTS.
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