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PadmeLover1991 
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Date Posted: 12/18/07 8:55am Subject: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON.... - Date Edited: 12/18/07 8:55am (1 edits total) Edited By: PadmeLover1991
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2007/12/18/28150-peter-jackson-and-new-line-cinema-join-with-mgm-to-produce-%e2%80%9cthe-hobbit%e2%80%9d/

Follow the link to read about the new agreement between the three parties.

This has made my day.

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 9:11am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
I just get this feeling that the fantasy adventure genre is waning now that LotR is over four years old. I hope the Hobbit is a great a movie as the story is beloved but I am nervous.

 

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Darth_Hydra 
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Date Posted: 12/18/07 9:34am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON.... - Date Edited: 12/18/07 9:39am (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Hydra
This is great news! I'm sure I'll be there opening day/night.

*Begins waiting for the inevitable The Hobbit: Extended Edition DVD*

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 9:49am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
Interesting. Of course, they still need a director...

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 10:26am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON.... - Date Edited: 12/18/07 10:28am (2 edits total) Edited By: Sith_Lord_Linkoping
A copy from my post in the thread at The Amphitheatre

Sith_Lord_Linkoping posted:
Breaking NEWS!!!


news.yahoo.com posted:
Peter Jackson to produce The Hobbit

NEW YORK - Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema have reached agreement to make J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," a planned prequel to the blockbuster trilogy "The Lord of the Rings."

Jackson, who directed the "Rings" trilogy, will serve as executive producer for "The Hobbit." A director for the prequel films has yet to be named.

Relations between Jackson and New Line had soured after "Rings," despite a collective worldwide box office gross of nearly $3 billion — an enormous success. The two sides nevertheless were able to reconcile, with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios (MGM) splitting "The Hobbit" 50/50, spokemen for both studios said Tuesday.

"I'm very pleased that we've been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line," Jackson said in a statement. "We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle Earth."

Two "Hobbit" films are scheduled to be shot simultaneously, similar to how the three "Lord of the Rings" films were made. Production is set to begin in 2009 with a released planned for 2010, with the sequel scheduled for a 2011 release.

New Line Cinema is owned by Time Warner. Sony and Comcast are among the owners of MGM.

(ADDS detail, quotes, background. SUBS overline to CORRECT that Jackson will produce, sted direct, films.)


More via TORN

Here's the most interesting bits.

TORN posted:
* MGM and New Line will co-finance and co-distribute two films, “The Hobbit” and a sequel to “The Hobbit.” New Line will distribute in North America and MGM will distribute internationally.



TORN posted:
* Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh will serve as Executive Producers of two films based on “The Hobbit.” New Line will manage the production of the films, which will be shot simultaneously.



TORN posted:
* Peter Jackson and New Line have settled all litigation relating to the “Lord of the Rings” (LOTR) Trilogy.



TORN posted:
Said Peter Jackson, “I’m very pleased that we’ve been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line. ‘The Lord of the Rings’ is a legacy we proudly share with Bob and Michael, and together, we share that legacy with millions of loyal fans all over the world. We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle Earth. I also want to thank Harry Sloan and our new friends at MGM for helping us find the common ground necessary to continue that journey.”



TORN posted:
“Peter Jackson has proven himself as the filmmaker who can bring the extraordinary imagination of Tolkien to life and we full heartedly agree with the fans worldwide who know he should be making ‘The Hobbit,’” said Sloan, MGM’s Chairman and CEO. “Now that we are all in agreement on ‘The Hobbit,’ we can focus on assembling the production team that will capture this phenomenal tale on film.”



TORN posted:
“Peter is a visionary filmmaker, and he broke new ground with ‘The Lord of the Rings,’” notes Michael Lynne, New Line Co-Chairman and Co-CEO. “We’re delighted he’s back for ‘The Hobbit’ films and that the Tolkien saga will continue with his imprint. We greatly appreciate the efforts of Harry Sloan, who has been instrumental in helping us reach our new accord.”

The two “Hobbit” films – “The Hobbit” and its sequel – are scheduled to be shot simultaneously, with pre-production beginning as soon as possible. Principal photography is tentatively set for a 2009 start, with the intention of “The Hobbit” release slated for 2010 and its sequel the following year, in 2011.

 

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Vortigern99 
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Date Posted: 12/18/07 10:52am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
cry laugh hypnotized dancing grin

 

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PadmeLover1991 
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Date Posted: 12/18/07 11:03am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON.... - Date Edited: 12/18/07 11:03am (1 edits total) Edited By: PadmeLover1991
I thought it was a joke when I first came across this afternoon. But then realised it was way too late in the year for April Fools jokes.

Hopefully they will bring PJ in as director too. Who do you guys think would be good as a replacement? (if one is needed that is)

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 11:12am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
Paul Greengrass ftw

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 11:33am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
Best news all day!!! I am so thrilled to hear that PJ is on board. dancing

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 12:30pm Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
There was a sequel to The Hobbit? Or they just splitting the book in two?

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 1:01pm Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
The2ndQuest posted:
There was a sequel to The Hobbit? Or they just splitting the book in two?


There is no sequel to the Hobbit...unless you count LOTR as the sequel.

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 1:07pm Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON.... - Date Edited: 12/18/07 1:08pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
Ah- found some clarity on AICN-

One will be an adaptaion of J.R.R. Tolkien's THE HOBBIT. The second project is believed to be a bridge between THE HOBBIT and THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy - culled from the titanic amount of periphery/ancillary/notated material found in Tolkien's works. Such material can already be seen in the existing films.

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 9:24pm Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON.... - Date Edited: 12/18/07 9:31pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Vortigern99
The2ndQuest posted:
Ah- found some clarity on AICN-

One will be an adaptaion of J.R.R. Tolkien's THE HOBBIT. The second project is believed to be a bridge between THE HOBBIT and THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy - culled from the titanic amount of periphery/ancillary/notated material found in Tolkien's works. Such material can already be seen in the existing films.


I can't imagine (my failure, I suppose) how they propose to fill a two-hour film with the eighty years of nothing Bilbo does between the end of the Hobbit and the beginning of the LOTR. As an educated Tolkien fan, I just don't understand their angle here.

EDIT:
From The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad:

During the seventy-seven years between Bilbo's finding the Ring and Frodo's quest to destroy it, Sauron reestablished his power in Mordor; Balin attempted to recolonize Moria; Saruman turned wholly to evil; Aragorn undertook great journeys; Bilbo moved to Rivendell; and Gollum went in search of Thief Baggins.

The author goes on to detail the escapades of Gollum in Mirkwood and Mordor, captured by Aragorn for a brief time before being rescued by Orcs who brought him to Moria. The Battle for Osgiliath also takes place during this time, and the Nazgul left Minas Morgul for the Shire -- but these latter events were actually shown in the LOTR films.

I still fail to see a coherent film here.

 

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Date Posted: 12/18/07 9:33pm Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
Not being familiar with the written works, I get the impression the second film would be about the other characters.

 

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Date Posted: 12/19/07 5:28am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
Vortigern99 posted:

EDIT:
From The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad:

During the seventy-seven years between Bilbo's finding the Ring and Frodo's quest to destroy it, Sauron reestablished his power in Mordor; Balin attempted to recolonize Moria; Saruman turned wholly to evil; Aragorn undertook great journeys; Bilbo moved to Rivendell; and Gollum went in search of Thief Baggins.

The author goes on to detail the escapades of Gollum in Mirkwood and Mordor, captured by Aragorn for a brief time before being rescued by Orcs who brought him to Moria. The Battle for Osgiliath also takes place during this time, and the Nazgul left Minas Morgul for the Shire -- but these latter events were actually shown in the LOTR films.

I still fail to see a coherent film here.


I would guess it would have to focus on 3 things:

1) The Wizards attack the dark mage of Dol Guldur (Sauron) and the subsequent result.

2) The defeat of Angmar.

3) The war between Gondor and the Corsairs/lesser men of Harad...including the story of Aragorn's first visit to Minas Tirith...and hopefully, he doesn't go into the city before being crowned, like he did in ROTK.


I find this idea to be just that...an idea...I think actually sowing it into a film would be jarring...as it's events span decades, and either they link it all up tight, which will be far afield from Tolkien's original tale...or they stay true and make a confusing snore fest for anything but the most die hard of Tolkienites.

 

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Date Posted: 12/19/07 5:39am Subject: RE: THE HOBBIT IS BACK ON....
Jedimarine posted:
Vortigern99 posted:

EDIT:
From The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad:

During the seventy-seven years between Bilbo's finding the Ring and Frodo's quest to destroy it, Sauron reestablished his power in Mordor; Balin attempted to recolonize Moria; Saruman turned wholly to evil; Aragorn undertook great journeys; Bilbo moved to Rivendell; and Gollum went in search of Thief Baggins.

The author goes on to detail the escapades of Gollum in Mirkwood and Mordor, captured by Aragorn for a brief time before being rescued by Orcs who brought him to Moria. The Battle for Osgiliath also takes place during this time, and the Nazgul left Minas Morgul for the Shire -- but these latter events were actually shown in the LOTR films.

I still fail to see a coherent film here.


I would guess it would have to focus on 3 things:

1) The Wizards attack the dark mage of Dol Guldur (Sauron) and the subsequent result.

2) The defeat of Angmar.

3) The war between Gondor and the Corsairs/lesser men of Harad...including the story of Aragorn's first visit to Minas Tirith...and hopefully, he doesn't go into the city before being crowned, like he did in ROTK.


I find this idea to be just that...an idea...I think actually sowing it into a film would be jarring...as it's events span decades, and either they link it all up tight, which will be far afield from Tolkien's original tale...or they stay true and make a confusing snore fest for anything but the most die hard of Tolkienites.


I can't see it all making it - Angmar was destroyed 1000 years prior to the Hobbit, so that definately won't be in it. The White Council is a definate - it's what Gandalf is doing when he's away in the Hobbit. I actually don't see them going too far past the end of the Hobbit, as there's nothing really to climax a film on after the BoFA, which would leave an awfully long time of waffle. Personally, I'd like the last scene (Before or After the credits) to be of Gollum emerging from his cave for the first time in 500 years when he leaves searching for the ring.

 

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