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GuanoLad Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 2/6/06 4:14am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	I think that's a good amount of motion blur, really - the problems are the shot is too fast, the fighter should really be a bit slower (the camera shouldn't be panning so quickly), and the blur needs some dithering. Having said that, if you put all the shots that you've done under that level of motion blur, it'd look quite good - just, as has been mentioned by others, way too zippy.
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 2/6/06 8:40am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	darthviper107 posted: Look into other forms of motion blur, I'm sure there has to be a faster way of doing it in C4D without having to render multiple passes of each frame. Well... there actually... is... Haha. In Cinema there are two types of motion blur: - Motion blur in scene (which I used): this type does some renders of the whole scene and then makes a composite of them. With more than five renders per frame, it can look very realistic... Especially for a static, good resolution image, I think And the other one is... - Motion blur IN OBJECT: it uses only one render of each frame, and then the moving object is blurred. I tried to use this at first, but the value was put at 100%, and I rendered an image, not an animation... So I didn't like the result and decided to use the other type... Now I have put the parameter to 30%, and made a test animation. The result seems acceptable... Is it really acceptable ? http://www.savefile.com/files/9039928 I'm rendering a test in full scene of the first second and a little of the animation. I will edit the post when it finishes to see what do you think -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 2/6/06 11:29am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	There was a problem with the server... Here's the "in-scene" test: http://www.savefile.com/files/9063480 I think that there should be more blur... How do you see it? -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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darthviper107 Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 2/6/06 1:39pm Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	Yeah, more motion blur. Looks better though.
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 2/8/06 7:09am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test) - Date Edited: 2/8/06 7:10am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarkSapiens
	Well, I made another render using blur at 50%, as darthviper107 said : http://www.savefile.com/files/2224613 But I don't know if there's too much now... That might happen because I use 24 fps, instead of 30. Shall I change it to 46% or something, or 50% is OK? -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 2/18/06 9:13am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	Hi you all, I finally tried to make my first attempts of laser bolts. Could you make me know what do you think? Here's a render image: And here's an animation test: http://www.easy-sharing.com/259473/Lasers.mov.html -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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morpher-2005 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 2/19/06 3:00am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	I can't seem to download your animation, however, your picture looks really good. Just show more of the core and it's perfect in my opinion. -----signature----- Read my autobiography, it's quite good. I die in the end.
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 2/19/06 3:18am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	What's happening with free hosting sites? The Savefile servers are full, easy-sharing doesn't work now... The effect looks slightly different when it's animated, so I uploaded it again. http://rapidshare.de/files/13613982/Lasers.mov.html I still have to do a test with a non-black background, because I don't know how it would look like... More comments? -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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mishra Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 2/20/06 5:45am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	Wow! I think your lasers look very good and convincing, I really like them!! They're just not very Starwars-like... Laserbolts in Starwars tend to be more cilinder-like then ovals like yours. The core of those cilinders are more yellow with a green glow. So it's more like a gradient instead of your all-green color. The fact is that the color in your previous picture looks allmost perfect, in the animation they look too green. Also I'd speed your blasts up a little. The first blast is the only one we can see disapearing in the distance it seems a little slow. The muzzleflash is a nice detail but it looks a little off. Don't know what it is exactly but the core of the flash looks a bit too solid. I'd experiment some on that if I were you. Anyway, I'm also working on a space-battle, have been working on it for some time now. Have done a thousand little tests but never seem to be pleased enough with it to show something here... It's great you did dare to show some of your work, hope you can do something with my comments.
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scifi_3d_zoo Title: Scifi 3D Forum Registered: Sep '99	Date Posted: 2/20/06 7:34am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	I think it looks fine. If you got all the time in the world you can play with the shape, the length, the color, the glow little more, etc. See how it looks animated. -----signature----- SCIFI 3D staff member http://www.scifi3d.com
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 2/20/06 12:36pm Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	Hi, I could make a test using tubular lights, to see the difference... http://www.savefile.com/files/3238174 Is it better than the previous lasers? More StarWars-ish? -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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scifi_3d_zoo Title: Scifi 3D Forum Registered: Sep '99	Date Posted: 2/20/06 4:12pm Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	From what I see in the SW films, and you can make any style you want of course, they are about the same size as you have.. there's a hot almost white part in the center taking up about 2/3 of the shape.. then there's a little falloff on the ends and a lot of glow and blur. -----signature----- SCIFI 3D staff member http://www.scifi3d.com
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MustafarNative Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 2/20/06 6:44pm Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)

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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 3/6/06 8:48am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	Hello there! These days I haven't had much time, but I made some little things in this project. One of them is a lightning change. I changed all soft shadows to hard shadows, because the first ones didn't make realistic at all the dark sides of the ships. I would like to know what do you think about that: I will try to get some time to finish some issues of lasers and make a small test of some TIE fighters flying towards one capital ship, which will be firing, too, or something like that, to see how does it look. -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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morpher-2005 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 3/6/06 9:42am Subject: RE: Chase over Endor (animation test)
	The calmari and the SD look like they're going to crash -----signature----- Read my autobiography, it's quite good. I die in the end.
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