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Skiara Title: • FFC RSA • WNU Mod (on reduced time) Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 11/9/05 3:23am Subject: Questions about the Spanish language - Date Edited: 11/9/05 3:26am (1 edits total) Edited By: Skiara
	Hello everyone! As some people know I'm studying Spanish. Since I think there will be some more questions about Spanish I thought a new thread would be a good idea. My first question is about tenses. Can anybody make a list of all Spanish tenses and compare them to the English tenses, please? We learned present tense, imperfecto, indefinido, imperativo and perfecto so far. But I mix them up, because it's different to the German tenses. Thanks! -----signature----- Master of GodinKijken & WM55 e-hermanita de pirry "I can't keep track of you WNU kids" (Inty) "It is better to expect nothing and let each moment surprise you." Obi-Wan Semifinals Fav Char: http://boards.theforce.net/fanforce_community/b10022/29252613/p2
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 11/15/05 8:33am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language - Date Edited: 11/15/05 8:36am (2 edits total) Edited By: DarkSapiens
	Hi, Skiara Here are some English tenses and their correspondences with the Spanish ones: Present Simple = Presente Simple Present Continuous = "Presente continuo" But "presente continuo" is not an Spanish tense. That's only the equivalent form of the English tense. English: TO BE + gerund Spanish: Ir a + infinitivo (GO TO + infinitive) Past Simple = Pasado Perfecto Simple When it refers to an incomplete action in the past, = Pasado (Pretérito) Imperfecto Past Continuous = "Pasado continuo" Not Spanish tense English: Past TO BE (was) + gerund Spanish: Pasado de Ir + gerundio Future Simple = Futuro Simple TO BE going to + Infinitive = Ir a + infinitivo I think that's not exactly what you asked for, but hope it works. -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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Skiara Title: • FFC RSA • WNU Mod (on reduced time) Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 11/15/05 12:01pm Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	On the one hand it is a bit confusing and on the other hand it helps a bit. So thanks, DarkSapiens! But I was more looking for the other way around. A list of all Spanish tenses and their "translation" to English, if there's an easy way to do it. Let me try if I can get a list of the tenses we've already learned: presente - present simple (estudio - I learn) perfecto - present perfect simple (he estudiado - I have learned) gerundio - ? (estudio leyendo - I learn it by reading ?) indefinido - ? (estudié (?) - ? ) imperfecto - simple perfect (estudiaba - I learned) Is that correct? And do you know anything in English to compare indefinido? Thanks again. -----signature----- Master of GodinKijken & WM55 e-hermanita de pirry "I can't keep track of you WNU kids" (Inty) "It is better to expect nothing and let each moment surprise you." Obi-Wan Semifinals Fav Char: http://boards.theforce.net/fanforce_community/b10022/29252613/p2
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 11/17/05 10:32am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language - Date Edited: 11/17/05 10:37am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarkSapiens
	Hi again! Well, gerundio is actually an impersonal form. In your example, it would be: "estudiando" = "studying" or "learning" (but it's a verb form, it doesn't work as a noun) "leyendo" is the gerundio form of "leer", as "reading" is the gerund form of "read". The complete name of the perfecto tense is in Spanish pretérito perfecto compuesto (it's not a simple form, because it's compound (compuesto) by two words) What you call indefinido, or pretérito indefinido, surely refers to pretérito perfecto simple. An equivalent English tense is Past Simple, or Simple Perfect, as you call it. (pretérito is a word used for regarding the past tenses in Spanish. Pretérito = pasado) And, as you said, imperfecto = Simple Perfect, and it's also called pretérito imperfecto So what's the difference between Perfecto Compuesto (perfecto), Perfecto Simple (indefinido) and Imperfecto? A Spanish tense is called perfecto when it refers to a completed action. "Estudié" and "he estudiado" say that I did the action of studying (or learning), but I'm not studying (or learning) now. "Estudiaba" says that I did the action of studying (or learning), but we don't know if I'm studying (or learning) at the moment. Well, that may help you more than my previous post. I hope so. -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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Skiara Title: • FFC RSA • WNU Mod (on reduced time) Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 11/17/05 10:52am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	Your posts are helping me - both. But still I got confused again by: ""Estudié" and "he estudiado" say that I did the action of studying (or learning), but I'm not studying (or learning) now. "Estudiaba" says that I did the action of studying (or learning), but we don't know if I'm studying (or learning) at the moment." I know tenses are a bit more complicated then the Germans ones, but I think I need more examples or explanation. Would you like to give me some example to these three tenses (including an English translation)? Maybe this way I will understand it better. Thanks again! -----signature----- Master of GodinKijken & WM55 e-hermanita de pirry "I can't keep track of you WNU kids" (Inty) "It is better to expect nothing and let each moment surprise you." Obi-Wan Semifinals Fav Char: http://boards.theforce.net/fanforce_community/b10022/29252613/p2
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 11/23/05 5:29am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language - Date Edited: 11/23/05 5:30am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarkSapiens
	I'm sorry, I've been busy these days. Estudié (pretérito perfecto simple) = I studied (past simple) But it has the meaning of "I studied before now, and I finished studying". He estudiado (pretérito perfecto compuesto) = I have studied (past perfect) Same meaning as above. Estudiaba (pretérito imperfecto) = I studied (past simple) The meaning is that I studied, but in an incomplete action - you don't know if I have finished studying. The meaning of Pretérito Imperfecto is similar to Past Continuous (I was studying) -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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Skiara Title: • FFC RSA • WNU Mod (on reduced time) Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 11/28/05 12:12am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	Sorry for my late answer now, too. Your explanation and our latest discussion at our Spanish class helps me a lot to understand the different tenses. Thanks again. And I'll be back, if I have more questions. I hope it is ok. -----signature----- Master of GodinKijken & WM55 e-hermanita de pirry "I can't keep track of you WNU kids" (Inty) "It is better to expect nothing and let each moment surprise you." Obi-Wan Semifinals Fav Char: http://boards.theforce.net/fanforce_community/b10022/29252613/p2
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 11/28/05 7:53am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	Don't worry. Ask whatever you need. -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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Skiara Title: • FFC RSA • WNU Mod (on reduced time) Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 11/28/05 9:02am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	Thanks. And here is a small one... Is "Enhorabuena" the same as "(Muchas) Felicidades"? -----signature----- Master of GodinKijken & WM55 e-hermanita de pirry "I can't keep track of you WNU kids" (Inty) "It is better to expect nothing and let each moment surprise you." Obi-Wan Semifinals Fav Char: http://boards.theforce.net/fanforce_community/b10022/29252613/p2
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JoinTheSchwarz Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 11/28/05 9:40am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	Yeah, more or less. There might be some minor differences but almost unnoticeable. "Enhorabuena" is slightly more formal. -----signature----- love can't blossom on a message board lol
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Skiara Title: • FFC RSA • WNU Mod (on reduced time) Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 11/28/05 9:58am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	Aye, thanks, David. -----signature----- Master of GodinKijken & WM55 e-hermanita de pirry "I can't keep track of you WNU kids" (Inty) "It is better to expect nothing and let each moment surprise you." Obi-Wan Semifinals Fav Char: http://boards.theforce.net/fanforce_community/b10022/29252613/p2
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DarkSapiens Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 11/30/05 4:51am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	Yes, enhorabuena = congratulations -----signature----- "Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!" "Impressive... Most impressive... Obi-Wan has tought you well." Chase over Endor: http://boards.theforce.net/scifi_3d_forum/b10013/23057645/p1/ Animator in "Star Wars: Threads of Destiny"
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txonikitar Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 1/4/06 5:34pm Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	Ok, lets go with some questions! Using "lo": No lo entiendo = I don´t understand IT No entiendo = I don´t understand Something EZ! You don´t undestand me = no me entiendes I don´t understand you = no te entiendo My best friend = Mi mejor amigo Your best friend = Tu mejor amigo It´s mine = Es mio It´s yours = Es tuyo -----signature----- Soong peetch alay. Mi coleccion de sellos Star Wars http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291488383 Lo siento, ya no existe!
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Skiara Title: • FFC RSA • WNU Mod (on reduced time) Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 1/4/06 11:51pm Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	Gracias, Derik! I will come here the next days and read your explanation again and again. Maybe it will stick in my mind someday. But how about "le" and "les"? What means "EZ"? -----signature----- Master of GodinKijken & WM55 e-hermanita de pirry "I can't keep track of you WNU kids" (Inty) "It is better to expect nothing and let each moment surprise you." Obi-Wan Semifinals Fav Char: http://boards.theforce.net/fanforce_community/b10022/29252613/p2
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JoinTheSchwarz Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 1/5/06 1:27am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	I was wondering the same thing. I think it's the next Socialist slogan: from "ZP: Zapatero presidente" to "EZ: Emperador Zapatero". -----signature----- love can't blossom on a message board lol
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pirry Title: Chapter Rep: FanForce Spain Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 1/5/06 3:47am Subject: RE: Questions about the Spanish language
	EZ? No será tus PEZ? -----signature----- FAN FORCE SPAIN! PLEASE VISIT US! http://boards.theforce.net/Spain/b10029/ NO AL TERRORISMO!!! E-Hermanito de Skiara / Michi, the Kartoffelkopf EFFM '04 Lisbon, Portugal// EFFM '05 Stockholm, Sweden // EFFM '06?
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