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Eledaia 
Registered: May '04
19077_Princess Leia
Date Posted: 3/29/07 12:30pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
What if we don't mind re-inventing the wheel? It would be nice to have that option...

 

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BLUE-SQUADRON-LEADER 
Registered: Aug '03
8115_Dack Ralter
Date Posted: 3/29/07 1:35pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
I have been a member of the 501st for some time now. I asked around when I realized I would be coming up to Spokane in Washington about 501st involvement...Spokane doesn't have any. I understand we are part of a garrison, but I dont really get the feeling that we are. I am not trying to start anything and I am sorry for any confusion.

 

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TI1800 
Registered: Oct '04
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Date Posted: 3/29/07 3:05pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
There's nothing stopping anyone from doing what you're doing: networking with each other, helping each other with costume assembly and even getting together socially. That's what we do! happy

The formalized units are not only names, but also the notation of the primary point of contact. When we get an event request form from the Legion Web site, we know who to forward it to. If an inquiry for an event in Spokane came in, we know we can forward it to Mike Kavanagh, the CO of Titan, and it'd be his responsibility to find people in Spokane and get you in contact with the inquirer. If a group is forming in the Spokane area, that's awesome, and I can't imagine that Titan members WOULDN'T be pleased to see their numbers grow.

But trooping doesn't require one's "own" unit. If you feel distant and displaced from the center of Titan, the Titan command staff can easily assign a local liaison, who'd be the primary point of contact for inquiries in that area. It doesn't have to be a Legion-recognized title, because so long as the function is being performed, then the members in the area can focus on having fun and trooping.

That's the part that sometimes gets lost in the excitement of creating a new identity -- the trooping, the events, the kids' and adults' reactions, the costuming. Focusing on the TRAPPINGS of trooping shifts energy away from the actual SOUL of trooping.

If you feel distant and sort of left out of things on the Titan forums, make noise! Become active on the forums, because I can't imagine that EVERY topic of conversation is solely on events in the Seattle area. Become known, and show the rest of Titan that the eastern regions of Washington IS growing.

But definitely talk to your Garrison's leadership. They can't know that problems need to be addressed if nobody brings them up. And likewise, too, I and my fellow Legion commanders are available to help as well.

 

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Daramin_of_The_Way 
Title: Spokane Fan Force Chapter Rep
Registered: Oct '04
13734_Duel
Date Posted: 3/29/07 10:25pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
So I guess the question would be now, and probably should be addressed to Titan as well, is how do we form a squad underneath Titan Garrison? And do we want to form a squad or our own outpost?

 

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the_black_smudge 
Title: OC Fanforce
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Registered: May '04
8072_Rise of the Sith
Date Posted: 4/1/07 2:02am Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
Greetings all, I'm in The Orange County CA FF right now but my lady and I will likely be moving to Spokane sometime around July. We both are working on Imperial ossifer costumes, have custom Sith ones done and I will be working on Mando armor as finances allow. I for one would be very very interested in joining a squad or finding other ways to make Spokane better known to the powers that be in Titan. Once we get settled we both plan to be as active in such things as possible. Count us in!

 

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Miana Kenobi 
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Registered: Apr '00
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Date Posted: 4/1/07 9:21am Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
Nothing's saying you can't have your own Squad, I imagine. San Diego has a huge squad, and they're still part of So Cal Garrison. *shrugs*


And Smudge, that's an April Fools jokes, right? sad

 

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Eledaia 
Registered: May '04
19077_Princess Leia
Date Posted: 4/1/07 2:02pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
I sure hope that is not an April Fool's joke! We love getting new members!!!

 

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the_black_smudge 
Title: OC Fanforce
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Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 4/1/07 2:22pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
I'm afraid not. Rachel. Sabrina and I are moving up to WA in July. I am very much looking foreward to meeting all the folks in the Spokantina but I will miss my friends in CA terribly.

 

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Daramin_of_The_Way 
Title: Spokane Fan Force Chapter Rep
Registered: Oct '04
13734_Duel
Date Posted: 4/1/07 2:44pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
the_black_smudge posted:
I'm afraid not. Rachel. Sabrina and I are moving up to WA in July. I am very much looking foreward to meeting all the folks in the Spokantina but I will miss my friends in CA terribly.

And you will be very much welcome

Miana Kenobi posted:
Nothing's saying you can't have your own Squad, I imagine. San Diego has a huge squad, and they're still part of So Cal Garrison. *shrugs*


The question is more of do we want a squad under Titan Garrison, or form our own outpost?
Personally, I have little issue with being associated with Titan, however I know that being in Spokane we are a bit further removed from events over in the Seattle area. The other consideration in forming a squad is that 10 members of the 501st, more than likely Spokantina members, are needed, meaning that nine of our number need to join the 501st. I see Blue-Squaddron-Leader's point about wanting to form an outpost because he would be the one member we would need.

 

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BLUE-SQUADRON-LEADER 
Registered: Aug '03
8115_Dack Ralter
Date Posted: 4/1/07 6:05pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!! - Date Edited: 4/1/07 6:40pm (1 edits total) Edited By: BLUE-SQUADRON-LEADER
I understand the need to contact Titan, but let's be honest here...Spokane has sort of faded out of the Garrrison picture. It is too difficult to get to Seattle for events. I am for having our own outpost, but I am not looking for any trouble. I understand that certain channels need to be gone through and certain people need to be contacted, but I think that if the desire for Spokane's own outpost is strong enough I say let us have it. We all have the same goal under the 501st, what does it matter if there is an outpost in Spokane?

"The formation of a new Garrison may take place when an Outpost reaches sufficient membership or when a region within an existing Garrison finds pressing needs to break off and form a new Garrison."

- Legion Charter, Article III, Section B, Line 4

 

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ewok_jedi 
Registered: Nov '05
13786_Ewok Concept
Date Posted: 4/2/07 7:56am Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!! - Date Edited: 4/2/07 7:57am (1 edits total) Edited By: ewok_jedi
Eledaia posted:
I sure hope that is not an April Fool's joke! We love getting new members!!!


I need to get in hold of some one at KHQ but I am hoping I can find something up there for this summer as well, I need to get out of the TC badly

EDIT: I think part of the problem with Garrison Titan is that its on the other side of WA and across the mountain passes ... something on this side of the state would actually be more convient for most of us ...

 

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Dishnu 
Registered: Apr '02
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Date Posted: 4/3/07 10:40pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!! - Date Edited: 4/3/07 10:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Dishnu
Hi My name is Mike and I am the curent XO of Garrison Titan,
Unfortunatly you can not start a Outpost since Wa. is allready covered by the Legion but a Squad is a good place to start, and from there we can get you approved to Garrison Status as soon as you come up with the 25 troopers.

Also the 10 Troopers that you need to have to start the Squad need to be 501st members so that is the place to start in becomeing a squad

 

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TI1800 
Registered: Oct '04
13599_TIE Interceptor
Date Posted: 4/5/07 7:52am Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!! - Date Edited: 4/5/07 8:00am (2 edits total) Edited By: TI1800
And again, a Garrison is only an assignment. It does not mean you are required to troop in Seattle for it to count. As members and potential members of Garrison Titan, you are allowed to troop wherever you wish. Garrison Titan is all of Washington state.

Just because a person doesn't live in the capital city of a country doesn't make them any less citizens of the same country. I, as a resident of Michigan, am no less an American than any of you in Washington.

I'm not sure where this misconception is coming from, where a person MUST troop in western Washington for it to matter. That is simply not true. If you troop events in Spokane, you are doing so as 501st Legion members assigned to Garrison Titan. You represent Titan whether you troop in Spokane, Seattle, Tacoma, Portland, Sacramento, Chicago, or Detroit.

If a member in Spokane wishes to step up as the primary point of contact for inquiries that are submitted to Garrison Titan's command, that would be a good and efficient way to communicate. Or even better, if everyone simply participates on Titan's forums, there's nothing saying that events can't be set up and coordinated for eastern Washington on the same forum.

Michigan is quite vast, and we do all of our planning on the Michigan section of Midwest Garrison's forum. It doesn't matter whether the event is on the east side (where Detroit is) or the west side (where another concentration of troopers reside). We all use the same forum, and those of us who can make the journey from one side of the state or the other do so. Or not, because both population centers have sufficient members to make appearances at events.

Michigan is a Squad within Midwest Garrison, not an Outpost. I repeat: Outposts are for areas not already covered by an existing unit. All of Washington is covered by Titan. Work with Titan, as they are willing to work with you.

Form a Squad in the future if you have the numbers to do it, but I again point out that having or not having a Squad doesn't affect the ability to create costumes and troop events.

Focus on the costuming and trooping, because the political trappings already exist and already function. Take advantage of it without making extraneous and redundant work that detracts from what's really important. happy

 

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Dishnu 
Registered: Apr '02
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Date Posted: 4/9/07 7:00pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
I understand in the Past that the Garrison has not been as active as we should be we are interested in starting a Squad in Eastern Washington area.

 

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JarusSarn 
Title: Spokantina Webmaster
Registered: Feb '04
23719_Corran Horn
Date Posted: 4/17/07 1:58pm Subject: RE: Possible 501st Outpost in Spokane!!!
I'm going to go ahead and speak for all of the Spokane area Star Wars fans right now.

I see what everyone is saying. Titan currently holds itself as the only 501st Garrison in Washington, which is true, so that means that Spokane, or Tri-Cities people, can't form their own Outpost, because the state already has a Garrison, so by default if we joined the 501st, we would become members of Garrison Titan. That's not a big problem, I think we all understand it. And if we have 10 members living in the same area (Spokane) then we could form a Squad of Garrison Titan. And then if we managed to get 25 members locally, we could split from Titan, and form our own Eastern Washington Garrison, correct?

Here's how I see it: We in Spokane are pretty independent folk. We like to jump right in and be our own group, which is not to say that Titan troopers aren't awesome (I specifically met a few on our flight over to Indianapolis for C3, you guys were all really nice and helpful and fun to talk to), but I think most of us here would like to get our own Garrison started as soon as we could, we're just like that. I also think we'd like to do a lot of events with Titan, seeing as they've done it longer and have more experience.

More than likely, we'll start as a Squad of Titan, and move as quickly as we can towards Garrison status... hope that clears up any confusion.

P.S. Erich, stop mentioning Outposts... per 501st by-laws, we can't form an Outpost since there's already a garrison in the state!!! So knock it off dork!!! tongue

 

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