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JarusSarn 
Title: Spokantina Webmaster
Registered: Feb '04
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Date Posted: 5/17/08 10:47am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
the_black_smudge posted:
Good point, no worries. John: could you bring your MR's? I don't want to be too Sith heavy on this


I fully intend on it.

It looks like I'll probably be getting out of town around 4 or so, that's when kelli gets off of work. So we'll head straight for your house smudge. I guess, anyone who's not planning on meeting us at the park, meet up beforehand at smudge's, I think we should leave smudge's at around 5:30 to head downtown, and we plan on all meeting up at the fountain in riverfront park at 6pm. Savvy?

 

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-JediClone- 
Title: Spokane Chapter Rep
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 5/18/08 6:41pm Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
Sorry I didnt make it to Smudge's yesterday. I had a tooth filed Friday morning and ended up not feeling like going anywhere on Saturday.

 

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JarusSarn 
Title: Spokantina Webmaster
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Date Posted: 5/19/08 9:24am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
-JediClone- posted:
Sorry I didnt make it to Smudge's yesterday. I had a tooth filed Friday morning and ended up not feeling like going anywhere on Saturday.


Don't feel bad, everything kind of "came apart", kelli's folks came into town on Saturday and that put us behind schedule. The good news is, they bought us a new car grin

 

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DarthTratz 
Registered: Oct '07
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Date Posted: 5/19/08 10:46am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
Yeah, "came apart" is one way of putting it. wink

 

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Darthchromer 
Registered: Jun '07
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Date Posted: 5/19/08 5:14pm Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th - Date Edited: 5/19/08 5:23pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Darthchromer
I just really hope this is not "business as usual" with the Spokantina when plans are made with others. Hope you at least were able to salvage the night with some promoting for Spocon.

 

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Raph1613 
Title: Co-Founder Spokane Fan Force
Registered: Jan '04
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 12:34am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
Uh-oh.

What happenned?

 

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Darthchromer 
Registered: Jun '07
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 7:11am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th - Date Edited: 5/20/08 8:07am (4 edits total) Edited By: Darthchromer
I understand sh** happens, but after waiting for 3 hours at the park then getting an apology from the coordinator of "I would say I'm sorry but, I just got a new car so I'm happy". is essentially a slap in the face to the two of us. We have way better things to do with our time on the weekend than to wait for someone with that kind of disregard. You probably don't understand the trouble we have to go through to do events like this, with having to schedule babysitters and being apart from family that wants you to be there for them instead. Its not easy to make time for your hobbies.

 

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DarthTratz 
Registered: Oct '07
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 8:58am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
Amen brother.

 

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JarusSarn 
Title: Spokantina Webmaster
Registered: Feb '04
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 10:06am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th - Date Edited: 5/20/08 10:45am (2 edits total) Edited By: JarusSarn
DarthTratz posted:
Amen brother.


Sorry guys. If I'd known that the whole thing would be a big hassle, I wouldn't have suggested it.

To The Spokantina: Here's my position/situation when it comes to events, I don't plan or organize anything, that's not my strength, I'm not to be relied upon in that respect. The problem with the Spokantina, is that NO ONE takes INITIATIVE. So I end up having to kick everyone into gear to do stuff, and then everyone looks to me to organize things, I've bled star wars blood for this group for going on 2 years now, I pay for our web hosting out of my pocket, I've payed for most, if not all of our promotional material, and honestly, I feel more "kicked in the gut" than appreciated most of the time. I'm not fishing for complements or asking for reimbursement, I just want to show that I'm doing my part to help this group because I love it so much. So if anyone's been wondering why I've been "out of the loop" lately, you've got your answer. I love this group to death, but if we're going to be sucessful, do events, and have a great time, people need to buckle down and do stuff, because I'm done being the "catch-all" for planning and executing events and projects. I've got far too much on my plate as is.

Now that I consider it. I may need to take a month or two off of the Spokantina... so until further notice, the Summer BBQ is on hold until I can decide if it's something that we can handle. Sorry guys, it's getting harder and harder to enjoy hanging out when I get bitched at all the time (and believe me, I can take a lot of bitching before I explode). I love everyone here dearly, but I'm not feeling the love back.

To Glenn and Shannon: I'm incredibly sorry that you guys felt abused, that was never my intent, I'm just really bad at planning, and my whole weekend was thrown off. Sorry if I sounded like a prick about my new car, I was only trying to put a positive spin on a crappy day, obviously I failed miserably. If this is planned again for next year, we should make sure everyone arrives early morning and gets good parking wink If it makes you feel any better, everyone I was with was complaining to me too, so I guess no one ended up having a good time :\ All I can say is that I'm sorry, and I hope everyone will forgive me for my mistakes and poor planning)

To My Wife: Happy One Year Anniversary, Sorry I screwed up the whole weekend. sad

 

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JarusSarn 
Title: Spokantina Webmaster
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 10:52am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
Darthchromer posted:
You probably don't understand the trouble we have to go through to do events like this, with having to schedule babysitters and being apart from family that wants you to be there for them instead. Its not easy to make time for your hobbies.



I completely understand, I had to give my wonderful mother-in-law a quick hug, a brief "thanks" and drive quickly away in the new car she bought me so I could catch up with everyone, and I feel awful about it, they went out to dinner and I didn't have the decency to come with them and thank them properly, so believe me when I say, I completely understand how you feel, Saturday was just a bad day for everyone I think sad Sorry guys, I feel really terrible about it.

 

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DarthTratz 
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 10:58am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th - Date Edited: 5/20/08 11:03am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthTratz
JarusSarn posted:
Sorry guys. If I'd known that the whole thing would be a big hassle, I wouldn't have suggested it.

Here's my position/situation when it comes to events, I don't plan or organize anything, that's not my strength, I'm not to be relied upon in that respect. The problem with the Spokantina, is that NO ONE takes INITIATIVE. So I end up having to kick everyone into gear to do stuff, and then everyone looks to me to organize things, I've bled star wars blood for this group for going on 2 years now, I pay for our web hosting out of my pocket, I've payed for most, if not all of our promotional material, and honestly, I feel more "kicked in the gut" than appreciated most of the time. So if anyone's been wondering why I've been "out of the loop" lately, you've got your answer. I love this group to death, but if we're going to be sucessful, do events, and have a great time, people need to buckle down and do stuff, because I'm done being the "catch-all" for planning and executing events and projects. I've got far too much on my plate as is.

Now that I consider it. I may need to take a month or two off of the Spokantina... so until further notice, the Summer BBQ is on hold until I can decide if it's something that we can handle. Sorry guys, it's getting harder and harder to enjoy hanging out when I get bitched at all the time (and believe me, I can take a lot of bitching before I explode). I love everyone here dearly, but I'm not feeling the love back.

(PS- Glenn and Shannon, I'm incredibly sorry that you guys felt abused, that was never my intent, I'm just really bad at planning, and my whole weekend was thrown off. If this is planned again for next year, we should make sure everyone arrives early morning and gets good parking wink If it makes you feel any better, everyone I was with was complaining to me too, so I guess no one ended up having a good time :\ All I can say is that I'm sorry, and I hope everyone will forgive me for my mistakes and poor planning)


John, I appreciate how busy you are. Lord knows Glenn and I are (everyone is), but when you started this thread, I assumed you were the go-to guy. I don't want to alienate anyone here (hell, I barely know anybody yet) and I'm not interested in pointing fingers, we simply would have appreciated some accommodation when plans changed. When a time is set, show up. If those plans change, let someone know beforehand. Glenn and I both have families and other obligations, so we really have to plan our time carefully. And I know we're not the only ones.

The other issue being that with wearing our cumbersome costumes (especially Glenn's Vader), it's hard for us to maneuver around, particularly through streets crowded with people. So it would have been nice to have someone less hindered to look out for us. In the end, we just kind of felt as if no one really wanted us there. What really set us off is when we were told, "I'd say sorry, but I got a new car." That was completely inappropriate at that point and was by no means an excuse to leave us hanging for 3 hours.

That's all I'm going to say and I'd just as soon move on. I think this could be a fun group. Maybe someone could take on being an event coordinator? I agree with you John, if your plate is full, you shouldn't be expected to have to coordinate everything. But like I said before, I don't know everyone here so I'm still a n00b. As a matter of fact, I feel as if I may be overstepping my bounds right now.

 

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JarusSarn 
Title: Spokantina Webmaster
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 11:19am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
DarthTratz posted:
JarusSarn posted:
Sorry guys. If I'd known that the whole thing would be a big hassle, I wouldn't have suggested it.

Here's my position/situation when it comes to events, I don't plan or organize anything, that's not my strength, I'm not to be relied upon in that respect. The problem with the Spokantina, is that NO ONE takes INITIATIVE. So I end up having to kick everyone into gear to do stuff, and then everyone looks to me to organize things, I've bled star wars blood for this group for going on 2 years now, I pay for our web hosting out of my pocket, I've payed for most, if not all of our promotional material, and honestly, I feel more "kicked in the gut" than appreciated most of the time. So if anyone's been wondering why I've been "out of the loop" lately, you've got your answer. I love this group to death, but if we're going to be sucessful, do events, and have a great time, people need to buckle down and do stuff, because I'm done being the "catch-all" for planning and executing events and projects. I've got far too much on my plate as is.

Now that I consider it. I may need to take a month or two off of the Spokantina... so until further notice, the Summer BBQ is on hold until I can decide if it's something that we can handle. Sorry guys, it's getting harder and harder to enjoy hanging out when I get bitched at all the time (and believe me, I can take a lot of bitching before I explode). I love everyone here dearly, but I'm not feeling the love back.

(PS- Glenn and Shannon, I'm incredibly sorry that you guys felt abused, that was never my intent, I'm just really bad at planning, and my whole weekend was thrown off. If this is planned again for next year, we should make sure everyone arrives early morning and gets good parking wink If it makes you feel any better, everyone I was with was complaining to me too, so I guess no one ended up having a good time :\ All I can say is that I'm sorry, and I hope everyone will forgive me for my mistakes and poor planning)


John, I appreciate how busy you are. Lord knows Glenn and I are (everyone is), but when you started this thread, I assumed you were the go-to guy. I don't want to alienate anyone here (hell, I barely know anybody yet) and I'm not interested in pointing fingers, we simply would have appreciated some accommodation when plans changed. When a time is set, show up. If those plans change, let someone know beforehand. Glenn and I both have families and other obligations, so we really have to plan our time carefully. And I know we're not the only ones.

The other issue being that with wearing our cumbersome costumes (especially Glenn's Vader), it's hard for us to maneuver around, particularly through streets crowded with people. So it would have been nice to have someone less hindered to look out for us. In the end, we just kind of felt as if no one really wanted us there. What really set us off is when we were told, "I'd say sorry, but I got a new car." That was completely inappropriate at that point and was by no means an excuse to leave us hanging for 3 hours.

That's all I'm going to say and I'd just as soon move on. I think this could be a fun group. Maybe someone could take on being an event coordinator? But I agree John, if your plate is full, I wouldn't expect you to have to coordinate everything. But like I said before, I don't know everyone here so I'm still a n00b. As a matter of fact, I feel as if I may be overstepping my bounds right now.


I'm sorry you guys felt like you weren't wanted, I think I speak for everyone in the group when I say DON'T LEAVE!!! worried We're actually all really excited to have you guys around, we're just not very good at getting events together (never have been). And we know all to well how hard it is to clear everyone's schedules and get people at events.

I'll explain what this event was for me when I started this thread. For me this was a fun event that everyone would meet downtown and just hang out and get pictures taken with people, and maybe hand out business cards for SpoCon, it wasn't a heavily though out event, more just, a fun reason to dress up in costume. I never intended it to be an "Event" that would be a major thing, so when people started looking to me to tell them what to, I sort of paniced doh! The other thing about the torchlight, is that the group has always said, "we should do something for the torchlight" but then we never do anything, so I thought it might help if I jumpstarted it and got it moving, clearly, not many people actually cared about it enough to come, so I doubt we'll do anything for it next year, based on this year's turnout.

I also like the idea of an event coordinator... Smudge? you seem to be very interested in having meetings/events... I vote for smudge :P

 

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The_Cheeser 
Registered: Feb '05
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 11:26am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
I'd like to through my hat in for event planning.

Most of the problem I see is caused by a need to improve our communication. Maybe a communications officer/director/slave could be added to aid the group.

 

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Darthchromer 
Registered: Jun '07
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 11:45am Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
Well it doesn’t make me "feel better" that others had a bad day. It makes me feel bummed. I hoped you at least had some fun there. Again I understand when plans get messed up that’s not the main issue. You need to work on your panache. When things go south a sincere apology would have been just fine instead of what you did say that’s all. Don't quit your friends over this, just learn from your experiences good and bad and become a better person for it. Being part of the 501st we plan on doing some cool events and would like to have the Spokantina join in on the fun.

Not to use this as a recruiting moment but any of you are welcome to become members of the 501st along with the Spokantina (nothing wrong with doing both) We all have that one thing in common, our love for Star Wars. We finally have a small base of costumers in Spokane and would be more than happy to help any of you with getting parts and building a costume for 501st certification. There are some awesome costumes you can do that wont coast an arm and leg. Could you imagine instead of crashing the torchlight parade next year actually being in it with a float. A bunch of Imperials marching down the street along with the Rebels it would be too awesome. Lets make it happen!
I don't know you guys to well and you obviously don't know us either. You all seem very talented and resourceful. You have to be to be the group you are. There is nothing wrong with taking things to the next level with our love for Star Wars. Just thought I would throw this out there. This means you Emperor! wink

 

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JarusSarn 
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Date Posted: 5/20/08 12:10pm Subject: RE: [Roll Call] Torchlight Parade - SpoCon Promotion!!! May 17th
The_Cheeser posted:
I'd like to through my hat in for event planning.

Most of the problem I see is caused by a need to improve our communication. Maybe a communications officer/director/slave could be added to aid the group.


I nominate Cheeser!!! Though this means you'll have to show up to more meetings!!! tongue

 

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