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General Kenobi
Title: Comms Admin SW & Film Music Classic Trilogy
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Date Posted:
12/18/07 10:17am
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The Hobbit
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General Kenobi
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With today's announcement, one of my first questions, aside from how the egos of Mr. Jackson and his New Line friends are doing, was, of course, will Howard Shore be writing the score for these "prequels"?
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Crash_Davis
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Date Posted:
12/18/07 10:22am
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He damn well better.
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Well_Of_Souls
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Date Posted:
12/18/07 10:32am
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I wouldn't call it a lock considering Jackson is only producing at this point. I sincerely hope Shore comes back, though.
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Darth_Vader-Anakin
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12/18/07 10:41am
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Even if Jackson doesn't direct, considering the absolute joy Shore seems to have for writing the music of Middle Earth, I can't imagine him saying no.
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General Kenobi
Title: Comms Admin SW & Film Music Classic Trilogy
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12/18/07 11:17am
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You'd think that with the huge success of the LOTR films that they will want to promote the "prequel" continuity with them. It only makes sense to have Shore writing score for the new films. Certainly, there are themes from LOTR that can be used - Hobbits, the Ring themes, etc.
But you never know. Schedules or finances or egos or unforeseen circumstances can get in the way.
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Well_Of_Souls
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Date Posted:
12/18/07 5:48pm
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Darth_Vader-Anakin posted: Even if Jackson doesn't direct, considering the absolute joy Shore seems to have for writing the music of Middle Earth, I can't imagine him saying no.
Oh I don't doubt he would come back in an instant, I just wonder if it's a certainty he'll be asked.
EDIT: Maybe my worries are unfounded after all. From Doug Adams' LOTR music blog:
Doug Adams posted: As everyone knows, in today’s climate no score is a sure thing until you’re in the theater and those speakers pop on. But I’ll tell you what I know…
Howard Shore is not currently signed on to this film. That’s not in any way bad news. Before today, there was no film! In fact, I spoke with Shore about The Hobbit just last Monday, and though he thought wheels were moving, he didn’t have any more information than that. But composers don’t sign on to projects until projects exist, so this is totally normal.
The better news is that Shore is interested. He’s been very public about this, so I’m sure it comes as no surprise—what’s great, however, is that Shore’s interest is likely to be very much fueled by New Line’s involvement. Remember, a film composer doesn’t work just with the director on a large project such as this. The “suits” become a large part of the process. (“Suits” seems a somewhat derogatort term, but I certainly don’t mean it as such. Just a convenient shorthand.) They ensure the composer has proper resources, proper materials, proper time. They make sure the budget exists to hire a fine orchestra, good recording engineers, noteworthy soloists. Composers and directors can be as creative as they want, but this sort of infrastructure is essential to realizing the final product. The Lord of the Rings’ score became what it was largely do to the support offered by such people as Paul Broucek, Rick Porras… and yes, Bob Shaye—all producers attached to New Line. Ever wonder why Shore, in the middle of an opera, a touring schedule and a number of demanding concert commissions agreed to score the little-known The Last Mimzy? With the support of New Line and Bob Shaye (who acted as director on this one) he knew he’d be in a comfortable working environment that nurtured his creativity. With New Line involved in The Hobbit, we’re almost certain to see many of these same behind-the-scenes people return, and that’s fantastic news. What’s more, there won’t be any sort of intellectual property issues regarding the LOTR themes and motifs that may find appropriate usage in The Hobbit’s score. Everything is already under one roof.
So short story, nothing is yet announced from Shore’s camp. He’ll have something to say when he has something to say. But I will note that the planets seem to be perfectly aligned for The Hobbit score we’re all hoping for.
-Doug
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Strilo
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12/18/07 10:03pm
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Well I for one hope to god that Shore scores the Hobbit films.
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Drac39
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12/19/07 5:29am
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Well I don't see a reason why Jackson's recent ego would get in the way of Shore writing the score. If anything Shore should hate Jackson now because of the King Kong score
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Strilo
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That is ridiculous. Where is the proof that Jackson has some huge ego now? There is also no reason to say that Shore might hate Jackson now. Everything around the score issues for King Kong said both parties still like and respect one another, there was just an artistic difference on how the score should be.
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Darth_Vader-Anakin
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Friends fight and have their differences. I'm with Strilo, I doubt there is much lingering contempt between the two.
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Strilo
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12/19/07 8:44pm
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Yeah exactly. So assuming Shore will be back, what themes do we think will be returning from LOTR?
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SithLord_Danny
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12/19/07 9:46pm
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How about John Williams taking a crack at it?
At least for one movie...
I thought he did an amazing job for the Star Wars prequels even though the scores themselves were badly edited.
This could be a way for Williams to expand into another major saga that isn't Star Wars.
Just a thought....
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Strilo
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Under no circumstances should John Williams score these films. They are for Howard Shore only, in my opinion.
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If Horner and Cameron can make up so can Shore and Jackson.
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SithLord_Danny
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Date Posted:
12/19/07 10:01pm
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Strilo posted: Under no circumstances should John Williams score these films. They are for Howard Shore only, in my opinion.
Why do you say that?
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Strilo
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Date Posted:
12/19/07 10:11pm
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Because Howard Shore created the musical sound for Middle Earth and the palette of themes for the various elements, characters, races and places. Despite my view of Williams as the best film score composer out there, I do not believe he is the right choice for this project. Shore is.
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