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andy1044 Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 12/19/07 10:15pm Subject: RE: The Hobbit - Date Edited: 12/19/07 10:16pm (1 edits total) Edited By: andy1044
	If John Williams were to score this I would throw a fit. The music for Middle Earth is uniquely Howard Shore, and though I don't doubt Williams could do a semi-decent job on the Hobbit, it wouldn't be the same. The orchestration, instrumentation, development and application of themes, as well as overall tone would be totally different, which would not only distance this movie from the other three, but create the illusion that The Hobbit is in no way tied to The Lord of the Rings. The only person for this job is Shore, he knows it, Jackson knows it, and the studios know it as well. -----signature----- Are you looking for original music for your film? Look no further! Samples of my work can be heard at: http://www.soundclick.com/andyskrabutenas PM me or send an email to andy1044@aol.com if you are interested.
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Strilo Title: Manager • Music • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 12/19/07 10:32pm Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	I agree 110%. -----signature----- #1 on iTunes Most Played: R.E.M. "Imitation of Life" #1 on iTunes Film Scores: Harry Potter "A Window to the Past" * * * * * * "And therefore blah blah blah your mom..."
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Darth_Vader-Anakin Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 12/19/07 11:19pm Subject: RE: The Hobbit - Date Edited: 12/19/07 11:20pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Vader-Anakin
	Seconded. As you guys have said, the soundscape for Middle Earth is very unique. Good as Williams is, he would be the wrong choice for this project.
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TheBoogieMan Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 12/20/07 8:27pm Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	I'm pretty sure that when your average film-goer thinks of Lord of the Rings, they immediately recall some sweeping crane or helicopter shot with Shore's choral and brass work in the background. If The Hobbit had neither of these, it would be a complete disconnect with the success of LoTR. It'd be like having Indy 4 directed by James Cameron or Robert Zemeckis - close, but just not quite right.
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Strilo Title: Manager • Music • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 12/20/07 11:05pm Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	Actually it would be a lot like someone else doing the score for Indy IV... -----signature----- #1 on iTunes Most Played: R.E.M. "Imitation of Life" #1 on iTunes Film Scores: Harry Potter "A Window to the Past" * * * * * * "And therefore blah blah blah your mom..."
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TheBoogieMan Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 12/21/07 3:06am Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	True. However, to the average cinema-goer, it could be covered up a lot more easily simply by repeating the Raiders March a lot. LoTR doesn't have that ubiquitous theme which defines the series. It's more a general tonal palette and feel that makes the scores so effective and recognisable.
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Strilo Title: Manager • Music • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 12/21/07 9:27am Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	You mean like the public wouldn't know they changed composers for the Harry Potter films if they just rely on Hedwig's theme? Yeah people noticed the musical change. Even people I know who never care about film music noticed. People would notice if they got someone else to do the Indy IV score. -----signature----- #1 on iTunes Most Played: R.E.M. "Imitation of Life" #1 on iTunes Film Scores: Harry Potter "A Window to the Past" * * * * * * "And therefore blah blah blah your mom..."
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Darth_Vader-Anakin Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 12/21/07 9:58am Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	Maybe. The Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings films are much more recent, so a musical change will more likely be noticed with the public only seeing the films 2-3 years ago. Indy however has been absent since the late 80's; more than enough time for the music to leave the general public's consciousness.
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Strilo Title: Manager • Music • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 12/21/07 10:02am Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	Oh for chrissake it was just an example. Does it really need to be subjected to the third degree? Shore should do the damn Hobbit film and that's all there is to say. -----signature----- #1 on iTunes Most Played: R.E.M. "Imitation of Life" #1 on iTunes Film Scores: Harry Potter "A Window to the Past" * * * * * * "And therefore blah blah blah your mom..."
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Darth_Vader-Anakin Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 12/21/07 10:04am Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	Whoa dude, no reason to get heated up about it. We're all just having a discussion here.
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Miana Kenobi Title: RSA & Manager Fighting Darth Real Life Registered: Apr '00	Date Posted: 12/21/07 6:17pm Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	Boys, calm down. Strilo posted: Yeah exactly. So assuming Shore will be back, what themes do we think will be returning from LOTR? The Shire theme for sure will be back, as perhaps will Rivendell. I'd assume we'd get a very Moria-esque sound for the Lone Mountain and I think we'll get a new Fellowship Theme, for our pack of 14. For Mirkwood, I think it'll draw on some of the Rivendell and Lorien sounds, but will be different. As for the village of Dale, I'm excited to hear their own style/theme. And I want Smaug to have an awesome theme. -----signature----- You can't take the sky from me. He tini nga whetu e ngaro I te kapua iti. Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!
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Drac39 Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 12/21/07 10:55pm Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	Strilo posted: That is ridiculous. Where is the proof that Jackson has some huge ego now? The 300 million budget he asked for for the Halo movie when he wasn't even directing it? His suing New Line for more LOTR profits? Twenty million dollar paycheck for King Kong? -----signature-----
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Strilo Title: Manager • Music • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 12/21/07 11:25pm Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	That is not proof of anything except how you love to judge the motives of people you don't even know. -----signature----- #1 on iTunes Most Played: R.E.M. "Imitation of Life" #1 on iTunes Film Scores: Harry Potter "A Window to the Past" * * * * * * "And therefore blah blah blah your mom..."
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Darth_Vader-Anakin Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 12/21/07 11:25pm Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	I have no knowledge of the Halo or King Kong money, but I think he was certainly justified in suing New Line. If they were stiffing him out of the money he and Wingnut Films were due under the terms of their contract, he had every right to sue them.
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Drac39 Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 12/22/07 9:10am Subject: RE: The Hobbit
	Strilo posted: That is not proof of anything except how you love to judge the motives of people you don't even know. Suing New Line after they took a make or break risk in him doesn't account for a huge ego? New Line Cinema deserves a lot of credit in investing in him. The budget they gave him could have driven them out of business had the film not been a hit. And asking for a twenty million dollar paycheck for Kong to even direct the film when he considered it to be a dream project is egotistical beyond belief. Even the greatest directors have never recieved that much. I think we need to agree to disagree here -----signature-----
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