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waheennay Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 12/1/07 10:21am Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3) - Date Edited: 12/1/07 10:27am (2 edits total) Edited By: waheennay
	Don't listen to the critics. Even though Awake got negative reviews except for a three star one from Roger Ebert, according to Metacritic.com, while the critical score was a pitiful 29 out of 100(based on 8 reviews), it got an 8.6 out of 10 based on 33 user votes. I think Awake is going to be one of those movies that critics hate but the general audience likes. -----signature----- U2's Sweetest Thing; "A blue-eyed boy meets a brown-eyed girl Oh oh oh the sweetest thing"
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Qui-Dawn Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 12/1/07 11:14am Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3) - Date Edited: 12/1/07 11:29am (1 edits total) Edited By: Qui-Dawn
	waheennay posted: Don't listen to the critics. Even though Awake got negative reviews except for a three star one from Roger Ebert, according to Metacritic.com, while the critical score was a pitiful 29 out of 100(based on 8 reviews), it got an 8.6 out of 10 based on 33 user votes. I think Awake is going to be one of those movies that critics hate but the general audience likes. ....yet another one of these instances where the critics are clearly completely disconnected and appallingly out of touch with what actually is compelling, powerful, mesmerizing, endlessly fascinating, spine-chilling, nerve-tingling, blood-curdling filmmaking and unnervingly yet awesomely riveting, and literally true-to-life storytelling, and certainly also the intimate and exquisite, tragic and terrifying, stunning and wonderful performances as well....mmmmmmmm, yep, obviously it's yet another infernal occasion where the "critics" - and well indeed we know just how very, very pathetically little their word or opinion counts at all, by the way, and thus that they're really not to be bothered with in any case - are completely lacking in anything even remotely resembling a clue....where they don't even seem to be paying attention to the film they're reviewing anyway, where I can only presume it's like....they don't even have their eyes open with which to see, or the ears with which to hear.... ....because if they did, after all, then maybe - just maybe - they'd actually be able to see a movie like "Awake", which is undeniably powerful, visceral, frightful, horrifying, endlessly compelling and definitely motivating and which also will serve to give people, patients and anaesthesia awareness victims, too, a voice which maybe they didn't have before....it's shedding only further needed light and, ironically, also bringing greater focussed awareness on what actually is a very real and pervasive problem....it has the chance to affect some serious positive change in the world, it seems to me - to give patients their voice, their rights, so that they can speak up and fight for themselves and their well-being, their comfort, and be well-and-truly heard and taken seriously.... "Awake", then, has the chance to help do some tremendous good in this world. Which in itself is more by far....than can be said for anything the so-called "critics" might say, plainly put. "Awake", and its message, and its portrayal of a frightening and chilling, unbearable yet all-too-real and obviously pervasive and ongoing reality and clear fact o' the matter....its realization of the horror and the literally waking nightmare, in other words....at least it, then, I daresay has the chance to do good, to help change things so much for the better, to help people and give them a voice....and allow them to be knowledgeable and informed, and to fight, and to be heard. It gives people the chance to, again, ironically enough perhaps....be "awake" about what could happen to them....and thus what they can do to make darn sure and certain that it never does. "Awake", then, will clearly make such a tremendous difference - it already is, from what I'm seeing - and that, too, is more by far....than the supposed "critics" could ever know in the first place. They just don't get it, pure and simple, which is why they're mere critics. "Awake", however, rises far and away above them! And honestly, now, maybe it is just something we know from painful and very personal firsthand experience ourselves, alack-and-alas - just how very, very pathetically and ludicrously little the critics, with all their banal and petty, mean-spirited carping and whining and general ugly negativity, and their complete lack of attention apparently....mmmmmmmm, oh, yes - just how very, very insignificantly beneath all notice and wholly unworthy of any regard they actually are, then....if they can't ever be bothered to actually pay attention to a film and become involved in it, then they in turn are not worth bothering with anyway. and whatever they might have to say - about "Awake" in this case, about fair anything else for that matter, and aaahhhhhh, yes, don't we know it.... pained look - it quite simply amounts, then....to the sum total of zero. They don't know what they're talking about, they never did. They're only "critics", after all....nothing more than that. It's the people who actually truly, deeply care about the films, then, and thus in turn about their compelling and mesmerizing stories and their riveting and fascinating characters besides....the people who actually can be very much "bothered" to not even just see a film, but to watch it, if you know what I mean....it is, then, I feel the people who pay attention and become involved and who do care intensely and passionately enough about the story, the themes and the characters, all....it's us, then....we're the audience, the ones moved by it, powerfully affected and motivated by it. We're the ones who matter, because we're the ones who are obviously paying attention....and who actually care enough to do so at all. The critics? - snorts contemptuously - what a sad and pathetic, lacking life they obviously lead....if only they knew what they were missing out on, though, to be sure.... fierce expression Dawn. -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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waheennay Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 12/2/07 12:04pm Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	Awake got 7.5 out of 10 rating(based on 193 votes) on Internet Movie Database. -----signature----- U2's Sweetest Thing; "A blue-eyed boy meets a brown-eyed girl Oh oh oh the sweetest thing"
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anakinandpadmedoomed Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 12/3/07 8:57am Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	Yeah, it was good and deserves a good rating. -----signature----- Somebody save me...I don't care how you do it. Prison Break fan. Movies are my passion.
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Sabreman Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 12/9/07 3:35am Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	As a fan of film music, I stop by the website FilmScoreMonthly.com regularly to see what new articles there are and to have a look at the forums. Today I came across an article about the scores of 2002 (see the end of this post for the link). I thought I'd have a look to see if Attack of the Clones's score was mentioned. It is mentioned, but (inevitably, I suppose) the writer (unfairly) slams Lucas, the prequels and Anakin/Padmé's relationship. I noticed that he misspelled 'Anakin' ('Annakin' in the article), and at least one of his statements is plain wrong. He states that reviews of The Phantom Menace "were almost uniformly harsh". This is not true, as you can see by visiting Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic. 63% of the film's reviews on Rotten Tomatoes were positive, and 20 out of 35 reviews on Metacritic scored the film at over 50% (Metacritic final score was 52%). Clearly, The Phantom Menace's reviews were not "almost uniformly harsh". A film which received "almost uniformly harsh" reviews would be something like I Know Who Killed Me. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/2007/06_Dec---Not_Even_Nominated_Part_Twenty_Three.asp -----signature----- Use the Forslook.
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MissPadme Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 12/9/07 5:08pm Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	Stuff like this is the reason why I started my SW Prequel Appreciation site. Maybe it should've been called The SW Prequel Truth Squad. --MissPadme -----signature----- http://lazypadawan.livejournal.com The Star Wars Prequel Appreciation Society http://starwarsprequelappreciationsociety.wordpress.com/ I spent too much on collectibles! Where's my bailout?
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ROTSFan Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 12/9/07 7:50pm Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	Glad to see this thread bumped again. And agreed with the prequel appreciation. I am so completely tired of people slamming the prequels (they got stronger with each successive movie) and Anakin/Padme's relationship. It's as compelling as any epic pairings I've ever seen. And John William's supporting music "Across The Stars" is beyond reproach. -----signature----- Fics in profile; ask me to unlock ~I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I hoped it would be." - Office Space
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anakinandpadmedoomed Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 12/9/07 10:33pm Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	Across the Stars is my fav. piece of music ever! It's romantic and it's Padme's and Anakin's theme. -----signature----- Somebody save me...I don't care how you do it. Prison Break fan. Movies are my passion.
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Qui-Dawn Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 12/10/07 11:45am Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	ROTSFan posted: Glad to see this thread bumped again. And agreed with the prequel appreciation. I am so completely tired of people slamming the prequels (they got stronger with each successive movie) and Anakin/Padme's relationship. It's as compelling as any epic pairings I've ever seen. nods in hearty, fervent agreement Mmmmmmmmm, ohhhhhh, yes, and don't I well know it, too - for there's no question that I've become ju-uust exactly as long-since sick and tired and thoroughly exasperated with the sometimes (at least in some quarters, apparently) downright incessant and completely galling prequel-slamming and so forth, all the more reason evidently why that Prequel Appreciation Society - love it, by the way! - is so desperately needed and for sure sincerely and mightily appreciated too....for if it has to come to this, anyway, then at least....we have options. But, actually, insofar as evn being well-and-truly and beyond sick and tired with the carping and tiresome whinging, the plainly inaccurate and even outright absurdist slamming like that, well - heck, truth be told it's actually why I've personally gotten to the point where....if it seems like anyone I happen to be talking to is about to start in on the slamming like that.... ....for it's just a certain distinct and undeniable feeling that one gets, I'd have to say, where hte conversation may be sailing along nicely enough and things seem perfectly well agreeable, no source of contention at all, yet the very instant that....they may seem about to launch into some kind of tirade or start with the prequel-slamming, well, I figure it's just gotten to the point where I can almost smell it, when 'tis about to happen, I mean....and so it's something which in turn I'm just most of all inclined to speak right up about, to hold up a hand and basically point-blank say, stop, enough, that's it, no more-!....I won't have it, I won't hear of it, and in general then I basically just do my best to make it known....that, well, put it this way, they'd probably be much better off and safer by far if they just didn't even try to prequel-slam in my presence like that....because it's not something I care to hear from anyone, I simply won't stand for it.... And admittedly, too, if that perchance means that maybe I do end up becoming, well....let's just say especially forthright and plain-spoken about it, then so be it, I figure - because I can't very well just sit there and meekly, mutely take it without protest, and simply let them so callously and contemptuously slam something which I love so truly, deeply and so passionately, something I am so fiercely and outspokenly loyal about - though fortunately most folks seem to know that by now, I'm guessing, so they usually don't try to ruffle my feathers or provoke me....if only because they know I ree-hee-heally don't take it well, and the results aren't so much pretty or desirable if ever they do try. Still, though, I do remember at least one instance where I was casually talking to this one guy of various things movie-related - but as soon as he said even as much "the new Star Wars movies" in, you know, that certain tone....I knew exactly what he was intending, and I shut him down on the spot. shrugs I just....felt I had to speak up like that, hold up a hand and basically stop 'im right in his tracks and point-blank tell him, don't, just....don't do it, don't say it, I really don't want to hear it and we'll all be much better off if you don't try to say it....and fortunately I think I managed well enough to forestall the impending ranting-and-slamming even before it began, and thanks be to the Force for that, let me tell you. I mean, honestly, I do love my friends and compatriots and all, but....surely they do know me and my loves, my fandoms and my passions like this specifically, far better....than to ever stoop to something like that....in my hearing or presence, anyway. Mighty good thing, too....because otherwise, oh, just think of it....how many blood vessels I'd have undoubtedly popped from sheerest pent-up exasperation and frustration by now....dear, dear me.... winces theatrically Dawn. -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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ROTSFan Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 12/10/07 6:04pm Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	Glad to be back in my safe haven of fellow defenders takes breath of relief. I was over in the Expanded Universe > Literature > Essential Guide to the Force thread (http://boards.theforce.net/literature/b10003/26315648/p30) and there are so many people there who are not even open to the idea of Padme being Force sensitive. I presented an argument, backed up my points, now I'm going to let it drop because they obviously don't want to hear it. Why? I don't understand why people get upset by the idea of her being sensitive, let alone the notion that she could potentially be a Force Ghost (ZOMG! Wouldn't that be terrible! ) . In my opinion, it would explain a lot of her natural strengths, and make her that much cooler a character and better a match to be Anakin's mate and the twins' mother--an intelligent, influential, kick ass female. Anyway, if anyone feels like defending, an opportunity has presented itself. We need to go spread around a little more A/P love over there. -----signature----- Fics in profile; ask me to unlock ~I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I hoped it would be." - Office Space
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TragicLove Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 12/10/07 10:12pm Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	ROTSfan, there's a fan fiction author on Yahoo! who writes some of the best A/P stories I've ever read. His name is Shawn, and one of his fics actually deals a bit with Padme being force sensitive. The story itself is an AU, where Anakin defeated Palpatine and never turned to the Dark Side. I can't link his site on the boards, since most of his stories are adult in nature. I'll PM you the links if you want, and to anyone else who wants to read his stories. Seriously everyone, if you haven't heard of this guy then I highly recommend him. His stuff is amazing. I thought you guys would find this interesting; it's a skit/performance from Star Wars Reunion 2 in France. In it, Vader seems to be having some kind of dream/force vision where Padme's spirit visits him (that's what it looks like to me anyway). There's a lightsaber battle in between as well. Man, I wish we could understand the dialogue! Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoeeXrTmTE Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_NRNxV8pTM
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ROTSFan Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 12/10/07 10:41pm Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	That is awesome, Tragic! Yes please PM me the links. I will certainly look into that youtube. Is it canoninically based? -----signature----- Fics in profile; ask me to unlock ~I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I hoped it would be." - Office Space
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anakinandpadmedoomed Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 12/11/07 11:15am Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	Thanks I'm gonna look into that as well. I hope they are canon based. -----signature----- Somebody save me...I don't care how you do it. Prison Break fan. Movies are my passion.
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waheennay Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 12/11/07 11:48am Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3) - Date Edited: 12/11/07 11:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: waheennay
	The latest, longer trailer for Jumper is here. I wonder who played the younger Hayden? -----signature----- U2's Sweetest Thing; "A blue-eyed boy meets a brown-eyed girl Oh oh oh the sweetest thing"
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anakinandpadmedoomed Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 12/11/07 1:45pm Subject: RE: Defenders of the A&P Love Story Reloaded (Part 3)
	Max Thieriot plays the younger Davey(Hayden) Thanks for the trailor looks good! -----signature----- Somebody save me...I don't care how you do it. Prison Break fan. Movies are my passion.
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