Darth-Vassago posted:I don't think I need to go back and read Dark Rendezvous; I've read it more than once. Perhaps you should go back and read the points I put forth? Maybe that would give you some idea of how overrated Mace was, and how underrated Dooku was. I'm not saying Mace would lose because I like Dooku better; I like Mace just fine, but I do believe he's overrated to an obscene point. I'm not so blind to say that "Dooku could take on anyone, and come out the victor without breaking a sweat!" Please, attempt to give me some credit here. I've outshined your knowledge on more than one front, and you're just spouting off your point of view of things. Me? I'm using logic, my friend. I'll bring out another point that...maybe you missed? Dooku, when in the Jedi Order, defeated all opponents in sparring. The only one he did not defeat, for obvious reasons, was Yoda. This means he beat Mace, when Dooku was but a Jedi. Why would he fall short now, when he has more power and more knowledge over Windu? Simply put, he wouldn't. Unless you want to underestimate Dooku like the gross population of Star Wars fans. Please, if all you're going to do is argue that one character is superior to Dooku, in a Dooku fanclub, kindly see your way out. Take this up in the Mace fanclub. If there isn't one; start one. I simply loathe people who come into other fan threads only to challenge and tear down the character who is the topic of the thread. So as I said, if you have no will to see reason or logic, then see your way out. ~Vassago
Robal_Krahl posted: I think people are underestimating Mace here. I think, vs. some master swordsman who knew neither of them, Mace would do better. But I also think Dooku would beat Mace. The EU is not unambiguous here, so don't use a single quote as if it proves everthing - for one, it's sloppu. Mace is powerful, no denying. But he just isnt good enough to beat Dooku. And the EU should be taken into account, seeing as this is a Dooku Fanclub, and Dooku has a place in the EU. Whether you like it or not, it will be taken into account; not trying to sound like a jerk here, but when examining who would beat who, you have to take all sources into account. Leaving certain ones out because you dont like them will get you torn up pretty quick. As for the EU being sloppy... well....
Darth-Vassago posted: Dooku fought Yoda to a near-stalemate. I do, however, believe Sidious was luring Mace into a trap, and as such he was not dueling to the best of his ability.....but this is a different story for a different time. I do believe that Dooku and Sidious would have quite an interesting duel. Sidious was said to use a variant of the form Ataru, and Count Dooku stated that he understood "every weakness of the Ataru form, with its ridiculous acrobatics". Dooku's Makashi was almost the perfect counter for it... ~Vassago
