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dragonsith13  2287 posts
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Date Posted: 12/6/06 3:04pm Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy
sithian_goddess You may complete any task that has ever been issued in this thread, however if I have issued newer tasks such as the ones in my post above. Then any task that is older than those can be done, but it has to be done exceptionally and to absolute perfection to recieve credit and earn prestige, thus the incentive to not fall behind in tasks. If you wish to do this you may... if not, begin and complete the latest tasks and post them. I still expect any task that you do, to be of the highest quality. Welcome as a Minion of darkness to both Meerkat and you. Also your being new here does not matter, here the leadership (I) judge you for what you do, not age, time spent here, color, how many tentacles you have, or if you are a walking carpet! Do what I ask and learn, fulfill your potential through the darkside of the force and you will do well.

 

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greyjedi125  3925 posts
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Date Posted: 12/6/06 8:48pm Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy
Sith Philosophy: Rule of Two

It is my express opinion that the Rule of Two was necessary ONLY to accomplish things which where to be done in the utmost secrecy and could never have been accomplished otherwise. If the Rule of Two were a reality in the time of Naga Sadow, the Sith Empire would have never flourished to it's height uner this secretive rule. They were conquerors, warriors and expansionists, the focus of the time was very different from what Darth Bane saw as the only recourse left to him to avoid the Sith from being wiped-out from the face of the galaxy. They needed time to recover and re-establish themselves, but differently from before. The structure of the galaxy was changing, and they had to change with it in order to survive.

I do not thik that the Rule of Two can be applied to the Acolytes of Darkness, by default. Obviously, we are more than TWO. Once again, change is necessary in an ever evolving galaxy. A wise leader, such as Revan or Bane, is able to see clearly enough to affect these necessary changes and not be limited by sheer repetition or tradition. If we Do decide to maintain teh Rule of Two, then I suggest that it be re-interpreted and not taken literally, for that would mean only TWO players could be actual Sith. The system of Sith Lords and Sith Apprentices works fine, generally speaking, but the envelope can be pushed to achieve more.

As we know, necessity is the mother of invention. Rules are meant to be broken, etc, etc. We can learn from the past and improve on it, therefore creating something new, or we can be limited bad ancient formulas that were new in their day, and work for the ancients, but not necessarily for us.

Sith Philosophy: Rule of the Strong

Yep. I'll admit it. I like this Rule. It is self-defining and self-explanatory. I believe it can be incorporated easily with the Rule of two, transforming it into a rule of 'pairs', for lack of a better term. This is where the strongest pair, ( Lord and Apprentice ) have rulership over the entire Sith membership, with subsequent pairs following in hieratic fashion. The possibilities thereafter are near endless, but of course, that is predicated by what is necessary in our time. Utmost secrecy, covert organization, re-emerging empire, etc, etc.

Evidently, the climate of things determine the other. Still, I say both rules can work togeher if we so choose. I know that in essence, it would be ideal to try to avoid a Sith civil War at any point, but I believe this is ONLY possible through leadership. It's through weakness in leadership ( or the will of the Force ), that such conflicts occur. I do declare that It is the very nature of the beast to test itself through the fiery trials of combat. Only a strong and wise master gets to ride atop a Dragon.

This is my initial treatment on these two philosopies.

 

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Darth_Meerkat  674 posts
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Date Posted: 12/6/06 8:56pm Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy
Task: Sith Philosophy: Rule of Two:

The Rule of Two, while it does have a few strengths, is not a good principle to run an academy on. Sith teachings state that treachery is the way of the Sith, that the weak give way to the strong. In an academy, the goal is to train many students. With the Rule of Two, as it was originally written, there would be one Master, and one Apprentice. In the present day, that could simply mean one student to one teacher, but the point could easily be debated. It could also mean that the galaxy will be fighting between two bodies for the duration of its history, or a long time.

The Rule of Two, if taken at its full meaning, would mean only two Sith in the galaxy. That principle works well for a dormancy period, but is not a good principle for building Sith ranks. With the Rule of Two, if the Master is killed before training is finished, a bit of Sith lore or technique might be lost. If an apprentice is hot-headed, angry, or impatient with their master, they may attempt to kill them early. If that had kept up, the Sith Order would soon be made up of lightsaber wielding maniacs bent only on destroying the Jedi Order.

The Sith Order would operate differently, and teachings may have to be adapted, but the Sith would survive. Granted, it would be harder to conceal a larger group of Sith, but that works both ways. The more Sith needed to be concealed, the more Sith available to defend their base. And if the Sith were spread out over the galaxy, the less chance of them being entirely wiped out. The Jedi would not be able to take out a single target at once, and overeager apprentices would be able to pool knowledge, and hopefully keep the secrets of the Sith alive.

 

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sithian_goddess  58 posts
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Date Posted: 12/7/06 8:09am Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy
so, the newer and older tasks has to do with the knowledge of the sith and such, if so, do we have to like find out and search the information of the task or is it in here in these forums? i'm sure i can do my best for a task and it isn't something extremely hard and to establish such things are good. being like new and someone else here who is also new, i would eventually have to get the drift of it right and also learn from what is on here and by myself. i am not complaining or anything, im just getting a better understanding what has to be done.

 

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dragonsith13  2287 posts
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Date Posted: 12/7/06 11:56am Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy - Date Edited: 12/7/06 11:58am (1 edits total) Edited By: dragonsith13
Well done so far those whom have responded to tasks issued... The previous tasks are still open at the normal rate. However in an effort to diversify ourselves here I am going to issue another task... something that is not Sith related at all, but very deep with my darkside nature and yours too I am sure.

Task: Darkside culture

I want each of you whom commits to this task to find me a brief summary of these four bands... Lacuna Coil, Tool, Evanescence, and A Perfect Circle. Along with the paragraph I want a picture or two of each band/group. Also I want you to do the same for a fifth band, group, and/or singer which you, yourself may choose.

Have fun my Acolytes MTDSBWY!

 

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Lord_Vivec  18599 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/06 3:12pm Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy
Sith Philosophy: The Rule of Two
I used to have mixed views on The Rule of Two, but I have come to the conclusion . It was simply a rule of necessity. Perhaps my response to the topic in the NSO can clarify:

Well, I think that was relavent/important at that time/context. The Sith were causing their own downfall, I mean, if you look at how little the sith liked each other, well, you get the picture. So Bane came up with this idea to stop that. But that is only because of the Context. I'm sure the Sith of today and the future are mature enough not to need a rule like this.

From James Madison: "If men were angels, no government would be necessary."

In this quote, Madison was talking about men being "good" to each other (lets not start another "definition of good" arguments, please). However, if you go deeper, you can take another aspect of that. Now, if you take "angels" to mean that the Sith won't kill each other for no reason, then these rules won't need to exist, because the sith won't kill each other.

It's like if the law states "don't steal" but nobody ever steals because everone truly believes stealing is wrong, you don't really need that law. It's not being the deterrent of stealing. People's enlightenment is.

In the same way, you don't need the rule of two if the sith are enlightened (no pun intended)to not kill each other for no reason.



If I can clarify even more, I was stating that if the sith become enlightened, then they don't need this rule to guide them. Its like the law against murder. If no one killed, there would be no need for a law/rule against.


Sith Philosophy: The Rule of the Strong
I'm usually a bit hesitant to respond to that, but it has always been my belief in the rule of the smart. I, myself, am an AP student with above a 4.0 GPA, so my view may be biased. If a brute ruled the Sith, it wouldn't last. We need someone with brains who can use cunning and stealth to destroy their opponents in addition to being strong. That way, when the Jedi try to use stealth and brains instead of an all out assault, we can be ready and counter effectively.

 

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DarthCalo  763 posts
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Date Posted: 12/9/06 12:16am Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy
I would like to join the acadamy please.

 

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Rilwen_Shadowflame  8637 posts
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Date Posted: 12/10/06 2:31am Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy
Ok, here we go wink :

Task: Sith Philosophy- Rule of Two

The Rule of Two has traditionally been a way to continue a Sith Order by limiting its numbers. I rather vehemently disagree with it. It was useful for hiding- an entire Order is less easily hidden than just two people- but an Order that wishes for prolonged dominance after taking power would be better off dismissing the rule. The last vestiges can still be applied, in having a Master ruling over an Apprentice...but they would not be the only such pair. It should not be taken literally, as it allows for disasters such as the death of both Palpatine and Vader...the Sith Order should not rest its hopes in two people, as the one destined to kill the other may well die in doing so, ending the way of the Sith. Such dangers can be avoided by having more than just the pair.
The only fitting part would be to have the Order rather tightly controlled by a Master over all...so that excesses in coups and the like, which destabilise an Order if not well-planned and successful, may be avoided.

Task: Sith Philosophy- Rule of the Strong

The Rule of the Strong, like the Rule of Two, is fundamentally flawed. Power struggles among the Sith distract from having a unified Order, directed towards taking and maintaining complete dominance over others. Some parts of it may be used, in that the powerful rise up through the ranks, but the Order must be held, unlike that of Kaan, by someone who has genuine power over their followers.
That each Sith may try to gain more power can be a good thing, but it must be channeled correctly, with the outer struggle of Sith against others taking precedence over the inner struggle of Sith against Sith. Inner struggles should be carefully watched, so that they do not bring down an entire Order. If two Sith fight, and one kills the other to become more powerful and possess more authority, this is acceptable as long as it does not risk the goals of the Order as a whole.
The Rule of the Strong does not provide enough leadership to be the most appropriate path for an Order.

Task: Sith Culture

Lacuna Coil:
Lacuna Coil, whose name means 'empty spiral', is a band from Italy, described as an alternative metal/gothic metal band. Currently, there are six band members- Cristina Scabbia, Andrea Ferro, Cristiano "Pizza" Migliore, Marco "Maus" Biazzi, Marco Coti Zelati and Cristiano "Criz" Mozzati. A popular group, their songs have been extensively played, some being used in the soundtracks to films.

Tool:
Tool is an American rock band, who have been considered highly controversial, owing to lyrics and imagery used in protesting issues. For example, a music video for their song 'Hush' featured them naked, with duct tape over their mouths, protesting censorship. Currently, its members are Danny Carey, Justin Chancellor, Maynard James Keenan and Adam Jones.

Evanescence:
An American band, Evanescence is difficult to classify. For the most part, it tends to be referred to as rock or alternative. Its co-founder, Amy Lee, is the only member who has remained throughout the band's entire career. The sound of the music has changed over time, but her distinctive voice remains one of the main features. Current band members are Amy Lee, Rocky Gray, John LeCompt, Terry Balsamo and Tim McCord. Previous members, who have since left the group, to be replaced by some of the current members, are Ben Moody, David Hodges and William Boyd.

A Perfect Circle:
A Perfect Circle is an alternative rock band. It is most notable for its frequent change of members, many of whom perform in the band in addition to belonging to other music groups. An example would be Maynard James Keenan, who also belongs to the band Tool. Members who have appeared consistently are Billy Howerdel, Maynard James Keenan and Josh Freese. Other members, who have contributed but are not always there are Danny Lohner, Paz Lenchantin, Troy Van Leeuwen, James Iha, Jeordie White and Tim Alexander.

Avenged Sevenfold:
Avenged Sevenfold is an American band, formerly classified as metalcore, now considered to be hard rock or heavy metal owing to a change in style over time. They themselves, however, consider themselves to be a heavy metal band. It is believed that in the process of releasing a new album, they intend to change their sound once again. Their band members are M. Shadows(Matthew Sanders), Synyster Gates(Brian Haner), Zacky Vengeance(Zachary Baker), Johnny Christ(Jonathan Seward) and The Reverend "Rev" Tholomew Plague(James Sullivan).

 

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dragonsith13  2287 posts
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Date Posted: 12/10/06 5:26pm Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy - Date Edited: 12/10/06 5:27pm (1 edits total) Edited By: dragonsith13
Well done so far everyone... we will keep these tasks open for a few more days, and then I will award prestige.

 

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sithian_goddess  58 posts
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Date Posted: 12/11/06 9:49am Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy - Date Edited: 12/11/06 10:00am (2 edits total) Edited By: sithian_goddess
Lacuna Coil



It's unique sound of dual male and female voices makes it almost melody-like and with a touch of metal. It gives a very stunning technique and style of music they have; it also symbolizes with the ying/yang. How the band exhibits their style and their songs is their own significant individuality and it makes their music worthwhile. They sound like a mix of goth, with overtones and poignant melancholy which are maturely used to build their ethereal musical landscape.
Her career, Cristina Scabbia, is going forth with determination as well as improving; aggressive touring as well as performing with such bands as – Sevendust, Slipknot, Rob Zombie, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Linkin Park, Opeth, Type O Negative, Danzig, P.O.D., Staind, Judas Preistm Slayer, the Ozzy man himself, Green Day, Incubus, System Of A Down, Rammstein, H.I.M., Iron Maiden, Steely Dan, Porcupine Tree, R.E.M., Trapt, Funeral For A Friend, The Used, Metallica, Guns N' Roses, My Chemical Romance, Atreyu, Queens of the Stone Age, Disturbed, Chevelle, and many more to come.
Since their work and ethnic progressed so much to now they have the potential for the mainstream domination, they initially left their mark in 2004 with their album Cornalies and from that opened doors for that album to be the best-selling CD in Century Media's history. Both in America and Europe they appeared at the Ozzfest for headlining club tours. The best effort and advantage of Lacuna Coil's ascending popularity, they postponed the release of their highly-anticipated follow up to Cornalies, Karmacode, to early 2006. this gives them more time on production while avoiding crowded 2005 release schedule for metal albums. Lacuna Coil went on tour with Rob Zombie throughout North America in early 2006, corresponding with the release of the new album.
All in all, this band I am fond of, their music style, the taste, how they do their artwork through their lyrics makes everything perfect to the human ears, those who cherish and are devoted to metal.



Evanescence



A band from Little Rock, Arkansas. The band gained some fame before releasing their album Fallen, early in their career; which sold their album 14 million copies worldwide. Being a rock band, they don't fit into a specific category of any genres, being somewhat unique in their taste and style of music, they fit into some like : gothic rock, alternative rock, nu metal, piano rock, arena rock, chamber pop, and Wagnerian rock in their videos.
In early history of the band, Amy Lee being a singer, pianist and songwriter; and the former lead guitarist and songwriter Ben Moody. Evanescence was found at a time in youth camp, when Amy Lee was playing the song “I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)” by Meat Loaf when Ben Moody heard her play. Since when they met, they had a shared love for music and decided to write songs together. Lee wrote these songs “Solitude”, and “Give Unto Me”. Moody wrote “understanding” and “My Immortal”, each song was articulated lyrically and musically so each of them can get equal credits. Since it was the two of them, they were unable to play live shows due to the inability to recruit other band members or professional assistance. To demand for a show, two of Lee and Moody's songs found playtime on local radio stations and raised an awareness of their talents. Eventually, they got the opportunity to go live and became the most popular band in the area.
The name “Evanescence” means to disappear or disappearance, or fade away; they picked that name because it fit with their taste and style of music, in a mind's eye it gave them an image to what they represent. Also because Lee loved the name, it gave a mysterious and dark ambiance to their band.
All in all, their songs and lyrics are different, I like how they are conveyed and contrived to their art. One of their songs “Hello”, I find was somewhat touching; although it's just a song to anyone but what song can do to another, either from being inspired or to understand how it is sought.




TOOL



In Los Angeles, California, 1990; an American progressive rock band was formed: for a rehearsal and that no one would show up for, except for the drummer Danny Carey and his neighbor, singer Maynard James Keenan, guitarist Adam Jones and bassist Paul d'Amour decide to join in. the entire decision became a stroke of good luck when it turned out perfectly, a successful act on itself. It was “introducing dark, vaguely underground metal to the preening pretentiousness of art rock” under their influence of their third album, Enima. On their first release, they have gained such appreciation and as well as critical praise for a complex and ever-going sound that ranges from “slam and band” heavy metal to a more progressive influences songwriting on Lateralus (2001). The band is known for addressing their philosophical and spiritual issues in their lyrics, having the tracks have a much longer length to them.
The genre of Tool's music, was inspired by other bands such as – Jane's Addiction, Rage Against The Machine, Faith No More, King Crimson, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rush, Meshuggah, Yes, Rollins Band, Skitzo, Fishbone, A Perfect Circle, Chevelle, Staind, Disturbed and Taproot. - is either experimental, rock, alternative metal, progressive rock, but they are a sub-category of metal. Since keenan's unique style of singing has been repeated throughout his work and as well as influencing new artists and put Tool on their list.
How the band got its name was because of the origin that deals with lachrymology and pseudophilosophy, it was found back in 1949 by Ronald P. Vincent after the death of his wife in a snow plowing accident. The name because a use of the the concept of understanding what lachrymology was but however, it was also because they wanted something different for their beliefs and to be unique as well. Basically, what a “tool” is something you would use, its something that symbolizes whatever you're trying to achieve in life.
All in all, this band is something i would look forward of listening to, I have their latest album and I like their song “Vicarious” but my opinion of the band is that, since only listening to few of their music, they are what i can be fond of.


A Perfect Circle



The Guitarist, Billy Howerdel, formed this alternative band; he even worked as a tech for such bands as Nine Inch Nails, The Smashing Pumpkins, Fishbone, Guns N' Roses, and Tool. He played some demos of his music to Tool's singer, Maynard James Keenan. Howerdel initially wanted a female singer, Maynard suggested himself as the vocalist when he formed the and Howerdel was hesitant about it.

Trivia of the band:
“Judith”, the first single from the Mer De Norms album, is a song about Maynard's mother, Judith Marie. Judith suffered an aneurysm that left her partially paralysed and wheelchair-bound.
The song “Passive” that appeared on the 2004 album eMOTIVe is actually adapted from the defunct band Tapeworm (also known as The Tapeworm Project). Tapeworm was essentially a project involving Maynard James Keenan and Trent Reznor (of Nine Inch Nails) as well as Danny Lohner. The project never fully developed due to apparent contractual conflicts that could not be negotiated. During several shows on their tour in early 2001, A Perfect Circle played on a cover of an unreleased Tapework song, the apparently titled “Vacant” ( also referred to as “Perfect Enemy”). The song was never released by an artist until it appeared on eMOTIVe as the song “Passive”.
A Perfect Circle has also had songs appear in several films and television shows including: Underworld (2003), Resident Evil: Apocalypse (2004), Constantine (2005), CSI: NY (season one) as well as Prison Break (season one).
Maynard James Keenan has starred in two Bikini Bandits films.
To separate himself from Tool, Maynard James Keenan wears long wigs on his otherwise bald scalp in all of A Perfect Circle's music videos, photo shoots, and live performances.
During Middle Ages, musical notation development was in the hands of the monks, who inevitably associated religious and musical phenomena.to them the three-point concept of the Holy Trinity represented religious perfection; therefore to them only triple meter was perfect meter. To express this meter they placed the geometrically perfect circle at the beginning of the plainchant.
A Perfect Circle gets their name from the line “Pull me into, your perfect circle.” from the song “Orestes”, on the CD Mer De Norms.


MERCENARY




Performing with a unique style of Scandinavian coldness, with a touch of melody and the combining of power metal and death metal; this band is on constant establishment from the mid-'90s, therein the band itself became increasingly sophisticated.
They formed back in 1991, Aalborg, Denmark. After a few releases of two demos in 1993 and 1994, they were able to sign with Black Day Records, releasing a four-song EP which was in 1996. in 2002, they decided to add some keyboard into their music, with a help of a brother and the addition of the vocalist Mikkel Sandager, it made their style of music more melodic as well as aggressive. In 2004, they released their third full-length album, 11 Dreams; this proved to be an efficient and successful album, earning much international attention for fans and critics alike.

Trivia
*~* In 1991 when Kral and Andreas were forming the band, they heard a song of Slayer called “Ghosts of War” that contained a lyric featuring the words Fallen Mercenary and decided to take Mercenary as their band-name.

Overall, this band has some unique style of having melody mixed with some death metal and progressive as well, the song “The World is Ending” is my favorite.



 

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evil-incarnate  20788 posts
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Date Posted: 12/12/06 4:15am Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy - Date Edited: 12/12/06 2:45pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Strilo
Those who are worthy don't apply for membership, they TAKE IT.. & subject those who are weaker to their will.
I wonder how many of you are truly worthy of being called darksiders.... thinking

Makes for amusing reading nonetheless.....

Strilo edit: This post is a bit baiting. How would you feel if someone came into your game thread and condescendingly called it "amusing"?

 

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dragonsith13  2287 posts
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Date Posted: 12/12/06 7:05am Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy - Date Edited: 12/12/06 2:46pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Strilo
Strilo edit: Not a good response. Next time please contact Inty or myself and let us handle things.

 

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sithian_goddess  58 posts
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Date Posted: 12/12/06 9:41am Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy
i would have to agree with dragonsith, this is NOT a cult, so what if someone whose older, knows alot of the darkside and such, guess what, THIS IS A GAME, it isn't a contest to see whose worthy and all. the only reason why i came on here is becaue i wanted to give a shot and also expand my creativity, it isnt something i wanted to compete but that doesn't sound so bad but for someone to think it IS a competetion and also boast everything and anything, honestly, your just wasting your pretty darn time. thank you!:P

 

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Date Posted: 12/12/06 2:27pm Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy - Date Edited: 12/12/06 2:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Strilo
Strilo edit: Let's drop this shall we?

 

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dragonsith13  2287 posts
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Date Posted: 12/12/06 2:44pm Subject: RE: Acolytes of Darkness - Sith Academy - Date Edited: 12/12/06 2:48pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Strilo
Strilo edit: That is enough. You do not have the right to tell people who can and cannot post in this thread. That is a mods job. In the future if you feel someone is causing issue in your thread, you message Inty or myself before you lay into them.

 

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