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ROTSFan Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 3/25/07 6:36pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	Anapad_Nabooine posted: ~~~Happy (belated) Birthday, Qui-Dawn~~~ Qui-Dawn posted: She was, after all, out there - somewhere in that vast and endless, cruel and harsh, unforgiving brutal hell and inferno of a desert, trapped out there, captive and terrified and facing the Force only knew what manner of heinous pain and violence, in the wanton and merciless clutches of creatures whose only desire and intention was obviously just to inflict yet more hurt, and torture still further, and in general just treat her, her, his own mother above all, with such utter and appalling sadism....she was out there, facing precisely that for weeks on end... Dawn. There is something that still puzzles me. I get the strong impression that most people of the TFN fandom think that Anakin slaughtering the sand people was completely horrible and evidence of his own depravity. Maybe it’s not ‘politically correct’ to say but I don’t think the act was all that bad and some good actually came from it. If in the GFFA all life is a part of the Force and there’s a light and dark side, then surely the sand people were of the dark (very bad) side of the Force. (I say very bad because I'm of the school that thinks the dark side is the imbalance in the Force and not that light and dark are equally necessary for balance.) From what I’ve seen in the OT and the PT these life forms called Tusken Raiders attack and kill without provocation and evidently they can't be reasoned with. And if they capture other beings, well…there’s nothing else to do but torture them – for pleasure or for whatever other reason. So I think Anakin did everybody on Tatooine a favor by ridding the planet of at least one group of them. I realize in the heat of rage and grief that this wasn’t his motivation and that to let our passions drive our actions without thought is wrong and dangerous; but I don’t see this particular mass killing as some grave evil for which Anakin would deserve a grave punishment, such as a prison sentence or expulsion from the Jedi Order if the Council found out. I think he did need some grave counseling about the loss of his mother and the way she died as well as a little “passion-management.” And when I say counseling I mean something a little more substantial than being quoted Jedi words of wisdom like "you must learn to let go." Now I know I’m mentioning things that have certainly been discussed before around the forums but I've previously been away for a while and returned to find the same issues. I just feel like when I’m venturing into certain other threads – particularly those dealing with Anakin Skywalker or the Prequel Trilogy – that perhaps I am from a gffa because: (a) I like Anakin; (b) I like the Prequel Trilogy; (c) I don’t hate Jar-Jar Binks; and (d) I don’t dislike any part of the saga enough to make me dislike one of the films or the entire Prequel Trilogy. I realize that no poster is prohibited from posting on any given thread because of their likes or dislikes but I have a dream…that one day…a single thread where fans of the PT (The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones in particular!) can post without being molested by flamers, trolls and other haters – because it seems to me that the latter rule most of the film and character discussion threads on this site. Maybe this - like my alpha points above - are just 'from a certain point of view' but it's real enough to me. So my choice is ‘to read or not to read.’ To keep a negativity-free zone in my head, I’m going to have to stick to the kinder gentler threads. Although some interesting topics exist in nearby Mustafar-ian lands, I prefer now to stay with The Naboo. And after this I will complain no more. I’ll just cheerfully hang out with the happier minority and take trips in “neutral space.” And here’s my version of cheerfully hangin’ out!... Those are some awesome pics. And the sketch-there sure are some talented fans out there. It's a dead ringer for Anakin in that pose. I agree with you on the Tusken Raider thing, Anapad. The Tuskens were basically pieces of crap and nobody missed them I'm sure (I'm not big on being politically correct either ). The problem with the Tusken slaughter is that it hurt Anakin more fundamentally than it accomplished any good. I'm definately not saying I wouldn't have had the same reaction in his place but this was when and how he got in touch with the Dark Side for the first time. There was this act, which any reasonable person would do. Then other things begin to seem more reasonable, such as decapitating an unarmed Dooku, and eventually Force choking your pregnant wife and blowing up a planet are within your capability. Anakin's daughter Leia later returns to the sight of the Tusken slaughter and knows this is where he first used the Dark Side. It makes her think less of him and puts her forgiveness of him that much further out. The Tusken's also thought that the disappearance of one of their communities was the machinations of an "angry ghost" and as a tribute to the "ghost" (which was really a pissed of kid that lost his mom) kill someone and bring them to that site as a sacrifice every year. So in a way it just continued and encouraged the carnage. The carnage didn't accomplish anything for Anakin except a way to vent his rage and hurt. In the end he is remembered and redeemed by his family and friends (such as Kitster on Tatooine) by his good moments, not those of the dark forces... -----signature----- Fics in profile; ask me to unlock ~I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I hoped it would be." - Office Space
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MissPadme Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 3/25/07 6:39pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	Anapad_Nabooine My view on the Tusken Raider scene really doesn't fit into any neat pigeon hole. I can understand Anakin's fury; if I were in his shoes I would at least feel like doing the same thing. He probably did the local moisture farmers a favor by removing them as a nuisance. But I'm not the Chosen One or a Jedi with mondo Force powers. I think the idea with these movies is that those with these extraordinary powers have to police themselves more than the rest of us do because they can cause so much more damage. Anakin, as he said, knew better and still acted out of his own pain and anger. It was the beginning of the end for poor Anakin, which is why it was referenced again in ROTS. ROTSFan I've read a few fan fics where in some ways Vader was still "fully functional" . If what PMT99 said was true, then why would Vader need that cod piece ? That said, I think that Vader was probably fed intravenously and used GFFA astronaut diapers. Poor guy. I'd be choking incompetent Imperial officers for laughs and giggles too. --MissPadme -----signature----- http://lazypadawan.livejournal.com The Star Wars Prequel Appreciation Society http://starwarsprequelappreciationsociety.wordpress.com/ I spent too much on collectibles! Where's my bailout?
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ROTSFan Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 3/25/07 6:47pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	MissPadme posted: Anapad_Nabooine My view on the Tusken Raider scene really doesn't fit into any neat pigeon hole. I can understand Anakin's fury; if I were in his shoes I would at least feel like doing the same thing. He probably did the local moisture farmers a favor by removing them as a nuisance. But I'm not the Chosen One or a Jedi with mondo Force powers. I think the idea with these movies is that those with these extraordinary powers have to police themselves more than the rest of us do because they can cause so much more damage. Anakin, as he said, knew better and still acted out of his own pain and anger. It was the beginning of the end for poor Anakin, which is why it was referenced again in ROTS. ROTSFan I've read a few fan fics where in some ways Vader was still "fully functional" . If what PMT99 said was true, then why would Vader need that cod piece ? That said, I think that Vader was probably fed intravenously and used GFFA astronaut diapers. Poor guy. I'd be choking incompetent Imperial officers for laughs and giggles too. --MissPadme (smiles slyly) I don't know if you're referencing me (or anything I wrote) but yeah there are all different spins on what post ROTS Anakin could and couldn't do. Who really knows? We can always imagine -----signature----- Fics in profile; ask me to unlock ~I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I hoped it would be." - Office Space
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Qui-Dawn Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 3/26/07 11:29pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub - Date Edited: 3/26/07 11:37pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Qui-Dawn
	And, oh, actually, it is something that, I find, does in earnest make me wonder, and not even just because it really is quite the haunting and stark and almost forlornly, forebodingly, broodingly beautiful sight in any case, I mean, just to watch him standing there like that at the crater's rim - and, mmmmmm, such a stark and vivid dark-cloaked figure is he then, too, all the more bold and impressive a sight for how plainly and clearly he did stand out like that against the pale yellowish sands and the bleached, colourless and distinctly lifeless barren plains of the vast, vast beyond measure and hugely immense expanse of the desert all around him, to all sides and as far as the eye could see in every direction, and for sure and certain then he really did cut quite the tall-standing impressive and yet at the same time also almost forlorn and very much vulnerable-seeming fine and starkly etched-out figure like that, then.... Especially when he was, also, silhouetted all the more against the pale and bleached-bone, dry and lifeless, shifting golden sands like that.... And oh, now, what else could he ever do, then, but just stand out ever more vividly and plainly in a place like that, and really prove himself to be only ever more distinctive for it....so dark of long-cast shadow and enveloping cloak like that, too, which even he himself felt the need to hunker down into as though curling into himself at least a little bit, or on some level at least just retreating or huddling into himself as best he can....at least before he has to head out there and face up to the un-face-up-to-able, as it were....and truth be told he does always look so lonely to me there, when he's like that, is the thing - so desperately if wordlessly forlorn, so very much in need of, I don't know, something really....a hug, at least, and then some.... Although, to be sure, it's also almost like he's even feeling quite the chill then, too, and he wraps his arms around himself or hunkers down a little more into his cloak for it.... Maybe it's not a physical one exactly, in the golden glow of the setting twin suns and all, but still on some level he must've felt it anyway....the chill of very real and lasting and deeply-unsettling unease, and the icy and rather sickening, cold clammy tendrils of fear and uncertainty and the dread of the unknown out there, the potential horror and anguish and goodness only knows what else he might yet face out there, that sort of pervasive and fairly soul-deep and spine-chilling, blood-curdling emotional, psychological and spiritual cold, that of the unknown and the feared and of course always, always with the traumatic and utterly pitiless knowledge that his own mother, his mom whom he so deeply and dearly loved, and who only warmly, nurturingly loved him too, believed in him, only ever wanted the best for him.... She, then, was out there somewhere, suffering prolonged tortures and cruelties unimaginable, and needing him to come to her, find her, save her....in time. And even knowing that much, too, even just the cold hard cruel facts of what had become of her, that must have been enough to fairly chill him to the core and leave him sick inside with a kind of numbing and all-pervasive fear and horror and dread uncertainty, a heart and soul-cold suffered, you could say, and of course there'd only be just every reason in the world and then some for that, too, for him to be feeling so.... At least, you know....as he was - just standing there like that, expectant, ready, uneasy but resolved, unsettled and dreading yet absolutely committed - watching, as though waiting, and alone like that as he was for at least a time, too....staring out into the pitiless, cruel, harsh and empty desert sands, and gazing so long into the paling doubled-sunset glow, as though looking out at something only he can see.... At, perhaps, such a dreadful potential reality and such a grim and nightmarish possibility that he simply can't bear to face under the circumstances, at something....and far, far out there, somewhere, at someone....whom he knows is waiting for him to come, to make it in time, to somehow find his way there....to save her....and so it was that he found himself out there, then, looking out into what he probably hoped against all dreadful and unsettling, fearful hope didn't have to await him, if you know what I mean.... Because, oh, after all, as bad as I'm sure he already sensed it had to be, as afraid and worried and fretful as he obviously was - and with apt reason, too, given how long it had been and whose clutches his own mother had fallen into, and what they were so likely doing to her, and had been all this time - well, now, honestly, I'm sure on some level he was most afraid that when he got there, found her - not if he made it, but when.... It could, then, even be so much worse than he already sensed and dreaded so deeply....because as bad as he'd already dreamed it, envisioned it, after all, it was already so much worse now, knowing even as much as he did right then....and that, too, was before he'd even gotten to her, had actually managed to find her at all.... But, oh, indeed, I'm sure that those too definitely must have seemed like the very longest and most insufferably, intolerably drawn-out and even torturous moments of his whole entire life, really, where he was basically powerless - a feeling in general which I'm sure he didn't care for either, never has and likely never will as the ol' saying goes, and for someone like him I'd wager that just about the worst and most unbearable thing imaginable really would be to feel at all helpless to do anything, to help, to fix things, to set them right, to basically feel powerless or incapable in any sway....that, for him, would have to be like the worst kind of torment in its own right.... It would just have to sting him deeply and personally then, and there's no way that he could ever be expected to abide it anyway, when after all for him, well, to be at all helpless or lacking the power to do what he feels he must, what he's so desperate to....when it must seem to him at least that for whatever reason he can't, then....that must just go right against the grain for him personally, you know, and small wonder the reason why there, too.... And yet, at the time, perhaps he did feel rather too much like that, as though almost helpless for even the merest of moments or the most fleeting of anguished and agonizing minutes, to do anything except just stand there and stare out, and dwell and brood and worry, and basically fret himself into a fair state I'm sure, over what he'd potentially find, what could yet await him out there and of course what he feared the most anyway....what he must've so desperately wished he didn't have to see and imagine and think about.... But, of course, he also couldn't help but do so anyway though it could only have him feeling that much worse, and oh, like he needed that to happen, either, on top of the living awful nightmare he was already facing head-on....dear, dear me!....well, at least before he actually did soon enough head out of there and tore off into the scarlet-and-rose, blood-darkened dusk and deep, deeper still into the endless and relentless dead emptiness of the desert, and all of it of course in singleminded and focussed, dead-set and steadfastly if desperately, prayerfully resolved intention simply to find her, save her, make things right, ensure she was okay and that nothing (more) bad would happen....and whatever it might take, then, and no matter even how deep and far he might have to plunge into the vast and deadly, uncaring desert or however many minutes or hours it might take him, still he would do it, then, somehow he'd find a way....and get to her in time, reach her, save her.... Because, after all, she was his mother, and she loved him, needed him, and he loved her and right now he was obviously the only one who could help her and set all this right....and so indeed he would, after all, I figure perhaps more than almost anything else or any other reason or incentive for it, because he just had to do so, quite simply....because it was the only bearable option, the only acceptable outcome....to save her, reach her in time, heal her, make sure she was alright and would be happy....just because that was the only thing worth considering, and anything else, anything less than a hopeful and thankful, blessed and fortunate outcome like that, I mean....it just.....oh, it wouldn't even bear thinking on, honestly....and clearly it wouldn't be for him either. Heck, I figure he just had to believe it himself, to cling hard and fast to even that singular frantic hope, that he simply must make it in time, find her, save her, be quick enough, strong enough to do so.... Maybe, then, with basically every fibre of his being, was he trying to convince himself of that the whole way....struggling to derive what strength of resolve, what courage of conviction, what will just to go on and basically avoid falling all to distraught pieces he could in fact manage then....lest he likely do just that, and come apart at the seams and be totally unable to cope otherwise. Maybe, then, it was only in trying to staunchly, stubbornly repeat it to himself, convince himself of it really, force himself to believe it, and truly, deeply feel it, that he would make it to her in time, and would get her out of there and save her, and everything would be alright - that he could make it through that at all, one moment and then the next one after that, and all the fear and uncertainty and the terrible wracking doubt and dread....because otherwise, perhaps he just wouldn't have been able to, at all. Never could he be faulted for it, though, if that had been the case....considering.... Dawn. -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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ROTSFan Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 3/28/07 11:09pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	(faints) How long does it take you to type that, Dawn? I'm just curious -----signature----- Fics in profile; ask me to unlock ~I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I hoped it would be." - Office Space
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Ani_Lover Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 3/30/07 6:34pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	Anapad_Nabooine posted: Now I know I’m mentioning things that have certainly been discussed before around the forums but I've previously been away for a while and returned to find the same issues. I just feel like when I’m venturing into certain other threads – particularly those dealing with Anakin Skywalker or the Prequel Trilogy – that perhaps I am from a gffa because: (a) I like Anakin; (b) I like the Prequel Trilogy; (c) I don’t hate Jar-Jar Binks; and (d) I don’t dislike any part of the saga enough to make me dislike one of the films or the entire Prequel Trilogy. I realize that no poster is prohibited from posting on any given thread because of their likes or dislikes but I have a dream…that one day…a single thread where fans of the PT (The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones in particular!) can post without being molested by flamers, trolls and other haters – because it seems to me that the latter rule most of the film and character discussion threads on this site. Maybe this - like my alpha points above - are just 'from a certain point of view' but it's real enough to me. So my choice is ‘to read or not to read.’ To keep a negativity-free zone in my head, I’m going to have to stick to the kinder gentler threads. Although some interesting topics exist in nearby Mustafar-ian lands, I prefer now to stay with The Naboo. And after this I will complain no more. I’ll just cheerfully hang out with the happier minority and take trips in “neutral space.” I'm totally with ya! I've been away for a while dealing with some very serious family issues, and my heart just hasn't been into anything lately. (Thank you Dawn, for being such a good friend to me by the way ) But whenever I do take a look around, things are just the same as always.......and that's not necessarily a good thing. I hope we can "post without being molested by flamers, trolls, and other haters" too someday.... And about the Tuskens, I totally agree with you again. Please, nobody jump me for this- But I have made my thoughts on the Tuskens quite clear many times.... And in my opinion, they damn well got what they deserved. MissPadme posted: As hot and sexy ROTS Anakin was, I still loves me some padawan AOTC Anakin . --MissPadme You said it sister!!! Qui-Dawn posted: Mmmmmmmmm....don't mind me, I was just sitting here intently and rather thoroughly and, ahem, perhaps even also quite attentively, admiring and musing over....Anakin's lightsaber....and by that I think I do mean, of course (although, wait, just what do you think I mean, eh? sly, teasing smile .... Qui-Dawn posted: ....and, well, hey, in the interests of total honesty - you are quite right there, aye, most definitely, I knew I was..... Qui-Dawn posted: Just for the sake of, you know, seeing how much sensation is actually there, in this new limb not-perhaps-born-with-it-his, yet-meaningfully-and-fundamentally-now-it-is-very-much-his-anyway, and so considering all that, well, methinks indeed that it really would be something else he'd be quite keen and hopeful, and soon enough at that, to find out, to try out, for himself.... To, then, simply - see just how sensitive it might be, the spread of these new fingertips and this new broad palm and lower arm of gleaming gold and a marvellously complex and intricately interwoven array of wires and circuitry, connectors and leads....there would be, then, really only one viable way to find out, to properly and fittingly test it out fully....or at any rate, hrmmmm, surely only pretty much the one way that Anakin himself would be most hopeful and inclined to try it out, then, to know for sure....ahem. You just had to go there didn't you Dawn?? And I love you for it. Sooooooo.......For my long absence, I bring gifts: sigh..... He's so beautiful. -----signature----- Are You Still Faint From The Run? Or Was It My Kissing Expertise? - Edward Cullen "I Have Problems With My Tongue, When I Concentrate Really Hard, It Sticks Out." - Hayden Anakin, Can I Touch Your Lightsaber?
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ROTSFan Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 3/30/07 11:27pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	Yes he is.... Even in all those "tormented" moments, it just makes him all the more endearing and sexy... -----signature----- Fics in profile; ask me to unlock ~I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I hoped it would be." - Office Space
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MissPadme Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 3/31/07 1:07pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	Hope things have gotten better, Ani_Lover. -----signature----- http://lazypadawan.livejournal.com The Star Wars Prequel Appreciation Society http://starwarsprequelappreciationsociety.wordpress.com/ I spent too much on collectibles! Where's my bailout?
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Anapad_Nabooine Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 3/31/07 7:04pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	Ani_Lover, I hope all will be well with you, my fellow Anakinist. And thank you sooooo much for the 'purty pitchers'! A few more… Okay, these next two look like Anakin went through a kind of space portal to planet Earth and learned some hip-hop hand expressions from the natives there. Very impressive, Anakin! -----signature----- "There is no other way....He was meant to help you. " ~ Shmi "Do not be disturbed by the clamor of the world that passes like a shadow. " ~ Saint Claire Padmé Amidala http://boards.theforce.net/star_wars_community/b10012/20635672/p1
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Ani_Lover Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 3/31/07 8:51pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	Thank you MissPadme and Anapad_Nabooine. It's just been some very serious health issues with my mother, but we are hoping for the best, and things are looking up. We expect her to recover. That is what we've been praying for. Sooooo....... Onto the lovely pics Anapad left for us: I must say I really love the first pic. Such a nice shot of him. Of course, I LOVE the second and third. Hayden is such a cutie, and ahem....has the sexiest fingers. And of course, the last pic is one of my all-time faves. I love me some handcuffed Padawan Ani. -----signature----- Are You Still Faint From The Run? Or Was It My Kissing Expertise? - Edward Cullen "I Have Problems With My Tongue, When I Concentrate Really Hard, It Sticks Out." - Hayden Anakin, Can I Touch Your Lightsaber?
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Anapad_Nabooine Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 3/31/07 9:07pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	Ani_Lover posted: I love me some handcuffed Padawan Ani. Yes, I like all the different Anakins but handcuffed Padawan Anakin is special. -----signature----- "There is no other way....He was meant to help you. " ~ Shmi "Do not be disturbed by the clamor of the world that passes like a shadow. " ~ Saint Claire Padmé Amidala http://boards.theforce.net/star_wars_community/b10012/20635672/p1
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ROTSFan Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 4/2/07 5:33pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	He looks really young in AOTC but still cute for that age. He's got great hands -----signature----- Fics in profile; ask me to unlock ~I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I hoped it would be." - Office Space
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MissPadme Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 4/2/07 5:43pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub
	ROTSFan posted: He looks really young in AOTC but still cute for that age. He's got great hands Ohhhhhh yes, those hands! --MissPadme -----signature----- http://lazypadawan.livejournal.com The Star Wars Prequel Appreciation Society http://starwarsprequelappreciationsociety.wordpress.com/ I spent too much on collectibles! Where's my bailout?
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Qui-Dawn Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 4/3/07 10:16pm Subject: RE: "The Most Powerful Jedi Ever" - The Official Anakin Skywalker Fanclub - Date Edited: 4/3/07 10:22pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Qui-Dawn
	Hrmmmmmm....there still are, I think, those great many reasons why it remains something of course very much to my liking then, why under the particular circumstances it more than meets with my approval anyway, even something so much as, yes, just what does happen after all, and the how-why-and-wheretofore of it, too, I guess you could say, when Anakin ultimately does in fact manage quite well, to be not only taking on, but also ultimately taking out, natch, one certain undeniably dangerous and coldblooded disdainful, contemptuous and dismissively arrogant, not-to-be-lightly-messed-with-lest-one-really-not-live-to-tell-the-tale threatening and seriously imposing Sith Lord, then - and one in particular who, moreover, also ree-hee-heally surely did have it coming in just every possible way, then, for just every expected reason and to my mind also quite justifiable rationale and then some.... Of course, yes, the intensely and acutely and quite humiliatingly, teeth-grittingly, seeing-red hackle-raisingly, oohhh-he'll-pay for that one day! and very personally affronting reasons there, then, for sure and certain, and even that much would be plenty incentive enough and just all that would ever be needed, too, far as I'm concerned....to have suffered a personal affront and insult to one's physical self like that, to have basically been brought down and treated with such aggravating and infuriating contempt and total lack of regard or respect too, just like that....to have been wounded, scarred like that, forced especially to give up a very part of oneself and something that really shouldn't have* ever been asked in the first place either, a sacrifice that just wasn't fair pure and simple....a humiliation it was, then, beyond a doubt, and an insult to honour to say the least.... And, so, even that much makes it something that really did deserve some serious payback and vengeance at some point, and hopefully even in kind and with interest, too, as the saying goes.... And, for that matter, it was incidentally in even quite thankfully and inarguably, unequivocally permanent and decisive fashion too, in after all what did turn out to be rather a hands-on and brute-force mightily physical and extremely undeniable demonstration of true and tested, and also in the end quite literally blooded for all that, skill and sharply-and-precisely, beautifully-deadly honed prowess and sheer raw nerve and the very great and thoroughly unquenchable high spirit, verve and blazing inner fire besides, of one who, well, really wasn't to be taken so lightly or so casually and contemptuously dismissed, nor even to be tossed aside as though there was somehow no more to him than that, and he'd really not prove to be much of a worthy or challenging opponent in any case.... 'Twould, indeed, be a very, very mightily foolish and errant and okay, well, I'll say it too, also rather an outright senselessly stupid person after all, then, and one who's just totally unwitting if not even plainly oblivious to the particular high calibre, merit, tested and battle-proven warrior mettle and zestful motivating, compelling, and forevermore driving inner fire demonstrated like that.... For it's that, too, which without a doubt only makes of one, and especially of Anakin in this case, natch, an even more imposing and very formidable and to-be-taken-extremely-seriously, underestimate-him-at-your-own-peril, don't-evercount-him-out-because-you're-not-likely-to-live-to-regret it warrior and tested foe and very ready opponent after all....and so surely, then, to be at all discounting the likes of him or thinking he's in any way out of it.... Or, for that matter, even somehow that - he's actually not to be taken seriously or seen as a very real threat and a true dynamic whirlwind and beautiful, lithe and fluid, deadly tornado of humming lightning blade and deftly nimble, dodging and weaving limbs after all....for anyone to, you know, actually not give him his rightful, earned, fairly-paid-for-it-in-blood due like that, for anyone to just so casually and easily, contemptibly dismiss him like that, well - clearly that's an especial experience they're just not gonna live to regret there, eh?;) ....at least if Anakin, for one, has anything to say about it....and especially if it's just as mighty and stingingly, deep-cuttingly personal for him as that, too.... For, well, the fact o' the matter there is that - it really was mighty personal then, and no mistake, and maybe it just can't get any more than that either.... Considering, of course, that we're talking about the brutal and unceremonious and wholly unforgiveable, downright criminal and quite heinous and ugly, so-uncalled-for loss of, well, of his arm, then, in that one literal fell swoop being deprived of something which no one had any right to take from him in the first place....to have to give up a part of his own close physicality, then, I'd say that's likely about as intimately and acutely personal as it's really possible to get, and so from then on, taking the likes of that into account, I mean....it really would make the fight, the rematch, more like, a mighty intensely personal one anyway, no matter what anyone else might try to say....because after all, it was just that for him, then, is the thing....might not be so for anyone else, but it really was for him.... And, of course, it's also the very sort o' thing that he never could forget or just pretend not to think about, or intensely brood on and dwell over, too, I'm quite sure.... Especially since, after all, the clear, vivid and undeniable proof of it would always be right there with him, a part of him, and that he would always bear as a stark and striking reminder, too, no matter what. Yet if ever anything was going to make the fight, then, or really any time the two of 'em might tangle again, such a personal score to settle after all, this would surely have to be it....and that, he never would "forget" or so easily just "get over" or move past, then....that, he would always think back on, and resent, and even also inwardly bridle over....that, then, I'm sure he'd be looking to seriously pay back and get some real deserved vengeance for in kind, because for him, it really was personal. In every way, and as it'd be just impossible to ignore, besides.... And of course, ye-es, I s