Rossa83 posted: Darthsith19: you and Zamwessel have it going it seems tongue I mostly agree with you, and I too think Ki-Adi is underrated. However, I don't see any real proof that he is stronger in the force than OBW. Physical strength is also inconsequential next to the force. Just think of Yoda who shrugs off both Dooku and Sideous in saber locks (proving in fact he is stronger in the force?) and OBW being able to hold off GG in a saber lock - that isn't pure muscle... I think OBW would take Ki-Adi, but it wouldn't be an easy fight...
Rossa83 posted: The strongest three Jedi Masters you can think of (EU included) vs. the strongest three Sith you can think of (EU included)
darthsith19 posted:If there's another quote that doesn't have the "if he didn't get injured" on the end please post it.
darthsith19 posted:Pretty much anybody has a chance of beating anybody.
darthsith19 posted:2. When did Kenobi match Anakin physically.
darthsith19 posted: You obviously no nothing about muscle.
zamwesell44 posted: The quote that you always says is canceled out, where Lucas said "From then on" he wasn't as strong as Sidious.
zamwesell44 posted: What? So Coleman Trebor would have a chance against Sidious?
zamwesell44 posted:All throughout the ROTS fight, if you read the novel, not only is Anakin's physical strength described, but Kenobi was able to fight him very well, he's not as strong, but he is a very good fighter.
zamwesell44 posted:You got me. Just b/c ripped does mean he's strong.
zamwesell44 posted:Everybody is ripped and strong looking in comics and cartoons. I am not saying he's not strong but just b/c he looks like that in that drawing does not mean he could manhandle Kenobi.
Rossa83 posted:The Star Wars Community is a subcategory to "Star Wars Films." Should EU-characters be given as much prominence as movie characters? Shouldn't they at least be downplayed some, as we know that movie characters too are portrayed far more powerful in books, comics and so on.
Rossa83 posted:Ki-Adi may for instance look extremely muscular in that comic, but in the movies he isn't! He is slim with a good posture! Thus the comic is exaggerated.
Rossa83 posted:Look at his shoulders and his upper right arm under the robe - there just isn't room for that kind of muscles your comic is describing. Hell, I'm just as muscular as Ki-Adi movie-figure is...
Rossa83 posted:although after what I've read on Wookiepedia, Kol had a weakness for Sith lightning
darthsith19 posted:All we see Ki-Adi do in the movies is get caught off guard by a bunch of Clones and shot. That really doesn't tell us how powerful he is. If we use EU, though, I think Mundi could beat Luke while Kenobi holds off Vader. Then together Mundi and Kenobi could beat Vader. Rossa83 posted:Look at his shoulders and his upper right arm under the robe - there just isn't room for that kind of muscles your comic is describing. Hell, I'm just as muscular as Ki-Adi movie-figure is... What are you, a professional bodybuilder? Lol, again, his robes hide his muscle. Looking at Arnold there, you wouldn't expect him to be so huge underneath his suit, would you? Same does with Mundi and his robe. Listen, that's Arnold with a suit on, this is him with no shirt on: Similarly, this is Ki-Adi with a robe on: and him without a robe on: It's all because of his robe. Rossa83 posted:although after what I've read on Wookiepedia, Kol had a weakness for Sith lightning If it says that, it's bs. What happened was, Kol knocks out Darth Nihl, then takes on like 20 Sith Lords at once, plus a ****load of Storm Troopers, and when Nihl revives, he shoots Kol from the back with Sith Lightning while Kol is distracted by all the other Sith Lords. That doesn't mean he has a weakness for Sith Lightning, though. Kol vs. Darth Krayt?
darthsith19 posted:and 2 more plus a movie saying that he is below Sidious.
darthsith19 posted:thus showing that he is physically stronger than Kenobi.
darthsith19 posted:By your logic, that guy is not strong, he is just ripped.
Darthbane2007 posted: Well to be honest, The pics of them with their muscles showing are from when they were much younger than they are now.
zamwesell44 posted:They don't say he is below, they say he could beat him, neither one say Anakin of the future could beat him, just Anakin could do it.
zamwesell44 posted:Ok, Nobody doubts that, but nevertheless Kenobi was still able to fight him very well. It's not just who is stronger, its whos better.
zamwesell44 posted: That's not a drawing, that is a picture of some steroid freak.
zamwesell44 posted: And i guess by your logic this skinny guy is not strong??
zamwesell44 posted: Trust me, he would beat the hell out of those steroid freaks you posted.
darthsith19 posted:They don't say "Anakin could have done it before he got injured". they say "Anakin could have done it if he hadn't gotten injured." if he had NOT gotten injured he could have done it, is what they say. Learn English.
darthsith19 posted:Then you went on to say that Anakin was as strong physically as Mundi, which isn't true,
darthsith19 posted:ROFL! Beat the hell out of the at what, baseball? Yeah, in a fight, at lifting weights? Hell no. Before we turn this into a huge muscle debate, note that I do NOT think those guys look good, I was merely using them as examples to prove a point. The first guy was Ronnie Coleman, he's 5'11 and weighs 300 lbs., and yes, he does use steroids all the time, but steroids do help you gain muscle a lot. Steroids don't just make you look strong, they make you strong, and yes, it is cheating, and I would never do steroids and I'm opposed to them, but that's what they do, is they make you strong.
darthsith19 posted:One punch from Ronnie Coleman and your little itty baseball pitcher would be knocked out cold
darthsith19 posted:Kenobi holds off Anakin, Shaak kills Aayla, Shaak and Kenobi double team Anakin and win.