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CrazyOldHermit Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 4/2/08 8:40pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____ - Date Edited: 4/2/08 8:42pm (1 edits total) Edited By: CrazyOldHermit
	Dark Woman and Maul Aayla would be elimnated fairly quickly, and Kenobi couldn't take them both at the same time. I think he could beat either in single combat, however. Ulic and Cay Qel-Droma vs. Kyle Katarn and Kyp Durron (LotF) -----signature----- Wraith 4 & Shadow 5, XWFC /Wraith 10- NJO/ Twin 14-TSFC e-sis: Rebecca_Daniels
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Nichtganz Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 4/2/08 9:16pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	Ulic and Cay Qel-Droma IG88 v.s Hk-47 -----signature----- Ib'tuur jatne tuur ash'ad kyr'amur.
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DarkStarkiller Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 4/3/08 3:57pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	HK-47 Exar Kun and Darth Bane vs. DE Luke
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Nichtganz Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 4/3/08 4:18pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	Exar Kun and Darth Bane DE Puke or Hk-47 -----signature----- Ib'tuur jatne tuur ash'ad kyr'amur.
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darthsith19 Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 4/3/08 9:12pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____ - Date Edited: 4/3/08 9:17pm (2 edits total) Edited By: darthsith19
	If you meant to say Luke, then Luke wins. zamwesell44 posted: They say "Anakin could have beat him." That's it. How do you know it's not ROTS Anakin, and especially since he said in Rolling Stone that he was "as strong" as Sidious. Because that's NOT all they say. I don't know why I have to keep repeating myself, this time I'll post the direct quote: "In terms of Sith, if you have Sith Lords there's usually no more than two because if there's three, two of them will gang up on one of them to try and become the dominant Sith. And Anakin would have been able to do it if he hadn't been debilitated. And now he's half machine and half man so he's lost a lot of the power in the Force and has lost a lot of feasibility to be more powerful than the Emperor." IF[b] he had [b]not been debilitated (means if he had not been **ed up, that word's probably too big for you). zamwesell44 posted: How do you know that?? Are you just going by that one drawing?? OMFG, look at that drawing, then look at Anakin shirtless in ROTS, look at him in the comics, too, he's nothing compared to Mundi. That comic with Mundi IS canon so yes, I am looking at that. mIf you find another comic showing Mundi topless, or a book saying Mundi isn't as strong as that comic shows, do post it, but until then the comic is canon. zamwesell44 posted: doh! Omg, DS, you don't even know who Kelly Pavlik is? So what? You didn't know who Ronnie Coleman was. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=T7c&q=%22Kelly+Pavlik%22&btnG=Search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=JSI&q=%22ronnie+coleman%22&btnG=Search Coleman brings up nearly 3 times as many results! He is more well known that Pavlik. And why the heck is this little boxer wearing a baseball uniform? zamwesell44** posted: laugh I would pay money to see that freak try to fight Kelly. I will admit that Pavlik has a chance since he's a boxer, but seriously, that guy is 6'2 1/2 and weighs 160. He is NOT strong at all, zam, Coleman is 5'11 and weighs 300. Pavlik IS just skinny. [IMG http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/720/Kelly-Pavlik1.jpg [/IMG] You think that's strong? Contrary to what Yoda says, size does matter. Pavlik will have speed over Coleman, but Coleman lifts weights for a living, he has tons of endurance, and, like I said before, if he gets one punch on Pavlik, it will be a one punch knock out. It's like, Will Sarty is a professional arm wrestler and Ronnie Coleman isn't, but do you think Sarty could take out Coleman at arm wrestling? I suppose it's possible but I doubt it. Darth Krayt vs. AOTC Obi-Wan?
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Rossa83 Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 4/4/08 5:55am Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	I think Krayt would take that one - ROTS OBW would be different, but I think OBW evolved quite a lot between AOTC and ROTS. DarthSith19 - I agree with most of what you're saying, and I too like Mundi. However, in the movies he IS NOT that muscular. As I said, look at the picture I showed and look at his shoulders and upper arms as his robe is tight to them - he isn't big - and no, I'm no bodybuilder Anyways, physical strength means very little. Dooku is around 80 in AOTC, but is still considerably stronger than OBW in their saberlock. As I argued, Yoda is stronger than Dooku and Sideous - and I seriously doubt he can bench as much as either one. Mace AOCT vs. Dooku AOTC (possibly the fight I was hoping for)
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DarkStarkiller Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 4/4/08 11:58am Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	Ahh, the fight that will probably never be resolved. But if we take the EU into account, I'm guessing Mace would win. AOTC Obi-Wan and Shaak Ti vs. Darth Maul and Qui-Gon
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ZamWesell44 Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 4/4/08 12:16pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	That's very close, Shaak Ti and Qui-Gon would be very close, I would proably go with Maul and Jinn though, but barely. AOTC Dooku beats AOTC Mace darthsith19 posted: He is NOT strong at all, zam, You have said some dumb things, but that is just ridiculous. darthsith19 posted: Pavlik IS just skinny. That was my whole point, he is skinny, and does not lift weights, but yet he is freakishly strong. He knocks guys out with one punch. That's why I was saying just b/c somebody look that strong means little. And I can not believe you are actually thinking that freak could fight Kelly pavlik and win. Shaak Ti,ROTS v Qui-Gon
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Rossa83 Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 4/4/08 1:45pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	We haven't seen Shaak Ti a lot in the movies, but EU-wise and stuff she's pretty tough. I still think QG would take him though... Mace would take Dooku I'm quite sure - but it would be a hard fight. Mace is stronger though... OBW and Anakin vs. Mace (everyone ROTS)
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ZamWesell44 Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 4/4/08 1:56pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	ROTS Anakin alone could do it. Quinlan Vos,ROTS v Qui-Gon
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darthsith19 Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 4/4/08 2:32pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____ - Date Edited: 4/4/08 2:32pm (1 edits total) Edited By: darthsith19
	Close, but I say Vos. Rossa83 posted: DarthSith19 - I agree with most of what you're saying, and I too like Mundi. However, in the movies he IS NOT that muscular. As I said, look at the picture I showed and look at his shoulders and upper arms as his robe is tight to them - he isn't big - and no, I'm no bodybuilder tongue Again, his clothes hide his muscle, as does Arnold's suit in the pictures I posted in my other reply to you. A strong dude can look small in clothes, like Arnold, and Mundi. The comic is canon, and there's no proof that it made Mundi bigger than it should have, at Yoda wasn't made bigger, look at Mace, Anakin, Kenobi in the comics and they are the same as they are in the films. Mundi would be the same, too, his clothes just hides his muscle. Rossa83 posted: Anyways, physical strength means very little. Dooku is around 80 in AOTC, but is still considerably stronger than OBW in their saberlock. As I argued, Yoda is stronger than Dooku and Sideous - and I seriously doubt he can bench as much as either one. Kenobi doesn't seem to be strong muscle-wise at all, though, and Dooku looks like he's in incredible shape for an 80 year old. Yoda isn't stronger than Dooku or Sidious, he held Sidious's saber off like that ebcause he wa susing s shoto, and thus had the advantage of the short blade to add to his strength (whereas Sidious's longer blade was further away from his body and would be harder to put muscle into). And physical strength does matter in an unarmed fight, which is where I said Mundi > Kenobi. zamwesell44 posted: laugh You have said some dumb things, but that is just ridiculous. What are you, a 9-year-old girl (serious)? How can you possible think that guy is strong? zamwesell44 posted: That was my whole point, he is skinny, and does not lift weights, but yet he is freakishly strong. He knocks guys out with one punch. That's why I was saying just b/c somebody look that strong means little. Do you understand anything about boxing? When throwing punches in the ring, speed is a huge factor. If you aren't very strong but can punch at 2000 mph (exaggeration) it doesn't matter because you will be able to beat anybody. That's like saying ohn Brzenk is freakishly strong because he can beat people twice his strength at arm wrestling. But it's the technique, speed, and endurance involved as well, same as with Pavlik. Pavlik isn't strong, he can just throw punches with a LOT of speed: Besides, you're saying Pavlik is looks weak but is strong, so Mundi must look strong but be weak? lol, bad analogy. zamwesell44 posted: And I can not believe you are actually thinking that freak could fight Kelly pavlik and win. Like I said before, Pavlik has speed and experience, Coleman is about 10 times stronger, though (speed is a huge factor but strength matters, too). Pavlik might be the best in his weight class, but Coleman is twice as hevay as he is, and it's all muscle. What you fail to understand is, people like Coleman don't just take a shitload of Steroids and automatically become huge and freakishly strong. Coleman, and all the other Steroid freaks, spend hours in the gym every day. Their profession is lifting weights, they don't just take steroids and become big. So they have a loot of endurance, pain tolerance, and dedication, too, more determination than almost any other profession in the world (maybe even the most). Qui-Gon (TPM) and Quinlan Vos (ROTS) vs. ROTS Obi-Wan and AOTC Anakin?
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ZamWesell44 Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 4/4/08 3:25pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	Kenobi and Anakin darthsith19 posted: And physical strength does matter in an unarmed fight, which is where I said Mundi > Kenobi It matters to a point, but skill is more important, so Kenobi>Mundi, and Mundi being in good shape does not mean he so much stronger than every other jedi, he's not. darthsith19 posted: How can you possible think that guy is strong? Are you being serious?? To say that Kelly Pavlik is not strong, are you that dumb? darthsith19 posted: Pavlik isn't strong, he can just throw punches with a LOT of speed: darthsith19 posted: Pavlik has speed and experience Wow. You have obviously never watched a boxing match in your life. Kelly is not fast, and is in his mid 20's and doesn't have much experieince, he beats people with skill and brute power. He has overpowered everybody he has ever fought. You don't knock world class fighters out with one punch if you are not strong. So which one of these guys do you think is stonger? I guess the guy that is bigger and more ripped right? Quinlan Vos,ROTS, Aayla,AOTC v Kenobi,ROTS
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Rossa83 Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 4/4/08 4:29pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	I'd go with OBW on that one. Look, clothes can't hide muscles that bad - if you look at the pictures you see that Mundi's arm isn't big when his robe is tight to them - Arnold fills his suit!! Even a well trained 80 year old shouldn't be a match for a fit 30 year old. Anakin could NOT take out Mace - Mace took Sideous, which Anakin couldn't!!!! Only Zamwessel would say that he could Take Man Utd's Vidic as an example. He doesn't look strong - he's very slim, but name one player who can take him out in a power-duel? Some are strong but don't show it - Coleman is the largest bodybuilder, considerably bigger than Arnold even - yet Arnold benched more... Yoda's saber was shorter, correct - but he fends off Sideous twice (at least one of them he is blocking Sideous's saber in the middle - thus your argument is flawed, Dooku three times or so - once also in the middle - look at how Dooku blocks Anakin and OBW in ROTS - at the very tip, yet hold off both... Anakin AOTC vs. Luke ROTJ
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ZamWesell44 Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 4/4/08 4:41pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	Anakin Rossa83 posted: Anakin could NOT take out Mace - Mace took Sideous, which Anakin couldn't!!!! How do you know that? Sidious was clearly not going all out with his force powers in that duel. I don't doubt Mace is a great swordsman, but he is not more powerful than Sidious. I guess Rossa83, you think in terms of power it goes, Mace,Yoda,Sidious,Anakin. Anakin is level 9 swordsman the same as Mace, and Mace could never take out Dooku the way Anakin did. Mace,ROTS v Darth Traya
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Nichtganz Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 4/4/08 4:59pm Subject: RE: _____ vs. _____
	Traya Death Star v.s Star Forge -----signature----- Ib'tuur jatne tuur ash'ad kyr'amur.
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