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iLoveAnakin7 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 8/4/07 4:48pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/4/07 4:52pm (3 edits total) Edited By: iLoveAnakin7
	Eeek! LOL Hmmm...what's with Kit getting all that attention? LOL! I don't know But I look at it this way...with 100 eps, Ani/Obi have to dominate at least 50 of them right? Oh and Alley, I love your pics, and I'm also very jealous I'm glad you had a good time. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tons of Ani/Obi interaction. I'm sure we'll have plenty, if only because every source I've ever seen documents how they spent most of the war with each other. Yeah, I saw the trailer at the C4 panel and I'm more excited about that than I have been about anything since RotS. Me too! Too bad it's a year and some months away though. It's like waiting for another movie, but not. I have yet, another question. During Anakin's pledge to the dark side in front of Palps, why didn't Obi-wan feel the effects, but Yoda did? (we probably discussed this before, but i don't want to go try to find it in all of those 300 pages ) LOL! You know, I really have no idea. I'm pretty sure that Yoda only felt Mace die though, not Anakin turning. I think Jedi can only feel life passing through the force. That's one of the things I wish they had taken from the RotJ novel where Leia and her mother were snuck onto Alderaan by Bail. I think if Padme had to die it should have been by a direct action of Vader instead of dying of a broken heart. Well I agree. Actually I was thinking about this today. Padme's character arc was really well written IMO in the first two episodes, and then raked over the coals in the last one. It really hurt her character IMO when those deleted scenes were taken out. I understand people dying of a broken heart, but that usually happens over a period of months, not after one has given birth to twins - quite the contrary, events like that usually give someone a new reason to live and patch up their lives. But, Padme might have merely been a representation of the Republic, and when it died, she died too. That's the only way I can accept that ending. Hi there BattousaiCV Thanks Ice for the link! Never hurts to watch it again and again...and agin! EDIT: TPM is airing right now on my digital cable, so I watched a few minutes of it again today just for the heck of it (I'm one of those rare fans that actually likes TPM a lot), and even though this may sound dumb, I like that Obi-Wan was the one to point out Tatooine because that's where Anakin was. -----signature----- Obama/Biden '08
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Jedi-knight-25 Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 8/4/07 4:51pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0
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Alley_Skywalker Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 8/5/07 12:30am Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0
	Great pics Alley! Especially the second one Thanks, BattousaiCV and where was it held this year? It was in LA, thats why I could go 'cause i live really close by. I also posted the link to the Clone wars trailer if you have not seen it yet, Alley. Thanks! I'm pretty sure that Yoda only felt Mace die though, not Anakin turning. I think Jedi can only feel life passing through the force. I think that's a possibility. Especially seeing as the two seemed to be "close." sigh So, just when this thread gets active again I have to go out of town. Well I'll see you guys in a week or so! -----signature----- Knight of the Fanfic Order (trained by oqidaun) Master to CodyMonKenobi & mujapple-juicey Facades: http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/24152038/p1 "No government has the right to tell its citizens when or whom to love." -- Rita Brown
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ShrunkenJedi Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 8/5/07 8:23am Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/5/07 8:25am (2 edits total) Edited By: ShrunkenJedi
	iLoveAnakin7 posted: That's one of the things I wish they had taken from the RotJ novel where Leia and her mother were snuck onto Alderaan by Bail. I think if Padme had to die it should have been by a direct action of Vader instead of dying of a broken heart. Well I agree. Actually I was thinking about this today. Padme's character arc was really well written IMO in the first two episodes, and then raked over the coals in the last one. It really hurt her character IMO when those deleted scenes were taken out. I understand people dying of a broken heart, but that usually happens over a period of months, not after one has given birth to twins - quite the contrary, events like that usually give someone a new reason to live and patch up their lives. But, Padme might have merely been a representation of the Republic, and when it died, she died too. That's the only way I can accept that ending. Yeah, Padme had such a strong character, and in ep. 3 she just dies of a broken heart? I think not. One of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard. Couldn't she at least have died of natural causes? She could still die at the same time as Anakin becomes Vader and the same time as the Republic dies, retaining the symbolism. But honestly, just save me from the utter lunacy of her dying of a broken heart. It's not in her to go that way in those circumstances, quite apart from the fact that it's not a credible way for anyone to die. -----signature----- Fanficcer and Fanartist-- check the profile! My New Drabbles and Viggies: http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/28153417/
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Jedi-knight-25 Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 8/5/07 10:08am Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/5/07 10:38am (5 edits total) Edited By: Jedi-knight-25
	Alley_Skywalker posted: I also posted the link to the Clone wars trailer if you have not seen it yet, Alley. Thanks! Your welcome Alley_Skywalker posted: sigh So, just when this thread gets active again I have to go out of town. Well I'll see you guys in a week or so! See you later ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obi-wan seemed to really care about Anakin and he knew that there was something going on between Anakin and Padme and Obi-wan wanted to keep it a secret from the other Jedi. He wanted to keep Anakin happy. Obi-wan loved Anakin more then Anakin thought. I don't get it how Padme died of a broken heart. If she knew that there was good left in Anakin then why did she die? scince the rules are not post post so much pictures at one I might just post them only once in a while. Here is one for today.
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Master_Starwalker Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 8/5/07 1:08pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/5/07 1:09pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Master_Starwalker
	What I mean was -- just b/c Ani likes her doesn't mean she likes him that way too. That's true. Obi-Wan knowing about Anakin's feelings makes sense given his statements such as "Be mindful of your thoughts Anakin. They'll betray you." however there's nothing that makes it seem like he even tries to read Anakin's thoughts. He may have notced her kiss him in the Arena I suppose, but it's just speculation. I think if he knows the most likely way he learned it is hearing Anakin thinking about her. Or, that the coucil feels pressed to do what Palpatine tells them t. Remember, Anakin doesn't know all the nuances of the council’s power, or dependence on the senate therefore, and seeing as the Chancellor has interfered more and more w/ Jedi affairs it seems logical for Anakin to come to such a conclusion. When Palpatine tells Anakin he'll be his representative on the Jedi Council Anakin tells him "Me? A Master? I'm overwhelmed, sir. But the Council elects its own members. They will never accept this." so he seems to know that the Jedi have to agree to Palpatine's suggestion for him to be on the Council. The Jedi also don't require the Senate's approval to do anything and are really an autonomous body that simply works closely with the Chancellor and has sworn to defend the Senate. The main reason I don't think the Jedi depend on the Senate is that the Order had existed long before the Republic and exists long after the Republic(albeit in an altered form.) Lol. Do you realize we're almost saying the same thing? Yeah, I just realized that. Me too! Too bad it's a year and some months away though. It's like waiting for another movie, but not. I'm just glad that there's going to be a new show with movie characters. I'm looking forward to the live-action show but I'd rather have a show that follows some known Jedi through the Purge rather than a new character. I'm pretty sure that Yoda only felt Mace die though, not Anakin turning. I think Jedi can only feel life passing through the force. I'm not sure. I mean, I think he felt the deaths of Mace, Ki-Adi, Plo Koon, Aayla, Stass, etc. but I think he sensed what Anakin had become sometime because when Obi-Wan looks in the security recordings to find out the truth it seems as though Yoda already knows he has turned to the Dark Side. Well I agree. Actually I was thinking about this today. Padme's character arc was really well written IMO in the first two episodes, and then raked over the coals in the last one. It really hurt her character IMO when those deleted scenes were taken out. I understand people dying of a broken heart, but that usually happens over a period of months, not after one has given birth to twins - quite the contrary, events like that usually give someone a new reason to live and patch up their lives. But, Padme might have merely been a representation of the Republic, and when it died, she died too. That's the only way I can accept that ending. I think her death is supposed to represent the death of the Republic but also the death of Anakin Skywalker. Lucas seems to want them to be somewhat symbiotic in that they need the other to live. It's also interesting to me that he chose to intercut Padme giving birth to Luke and Leia and then dying with what could be seen as the death of Anakin Skywalker, fallen Jedi and the birth of Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith. EDIT: TPM is airing right now on my digital cable, so I watched a few minutes of it again today just for the heck of it (I'm one of those rare fans that actually likes TPM a lot), and even though this may sound dumb, I like that Obi-Wan was the one to point out Tatooine because that's where Anakin was. I like that too. There's also the great Obi-Wan line about how they could be stuck there for a very long time, which is fitting. Yeah, Padme had such a strong character, and in ep. 3 she just dies of a broken heart? I think not. One of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard. Couldn't she at least have died of natural causes? She could still die at the same time as Anakin becomes Vader and the same time as the Republic dies, retaining the symbolism. But honestly, just save me from the utter lunacy of her dying of a broken heart. It's not in her to go that way in those circumstances, quite apart from the fact that it's not a credible way for anyone to die. Possibly, statistically though a high percentage of old people die within 3 months of the death of their spouse, so I think it may be somewhat possible to die of a broken heart. I still think though in Padme's position it would have been far better to simply make it so Vader had mortally wounded her but she managed to hold on long enough to give birth to Luke and Leia and to tell Obi-Wan that there's still good in him(assuming she had to die in RotS.) Oh and here's a trimmed down version of an interesting passage from the RotS novel. It's the expanded version of Mace, Yoda, and Obi-Wan's talk on the gunship The gunship streaked through the capital's sky. Obi-Wan stared past Yoda and Mace Windu, out through the gunship's window at the vast deployment platform and the swarm of clones who were loading the assault cruiser at the far end. "You weren't there," he said. "You didn't see his face. I think we have done a terrible thing." "We don't always have the right answer," Mace Windu said. "Sometimes there isn't a right answer." "Know how important your friendship with young Anakin is to you, I do." Yoda, too, stared out toward the stark angles of the assault cruiser being loaded for the counterinvasion of Kashyyyk; he stood leaning on his gimer stick as though he did not trust his legs. "Allow such attachments to pass out of one's life, a Jedi must." Another man-even another Jedi-might have resented the rebuke, but Obi-Wan only sighed. "I suppose-he is the chosen one, after all. The prophecy says he was born to bring balance to the Force, but . . ." The words trailed off. He couldn't remember what he'd been about to say. All he could remember was the look on Anakin's face. "Faith must we have. Trust in the will of the Force. What other choice is there?" Obi-Wan accepted this with a nod, but still when he thought of Anakin, dread began to curdle below his heart. "I should have argued more strongly in Council today." "You think Skywalker won't be able to handle this?" Mace Windu said. "I thought you had more confidence in his abilities." "I trust him with my life," Obi-Wan said simply. "And that is precisely the problem." The other two Jedi Masters watched him silently while he tried to summon the proper words. "For Anakin," Obi-Wan said at length, "there is nothing more important than friendship. He is the most loyal man I have ever met-loyal beyond reason, in fact. Despite all I have tried to teach him about the sacrifices that are the heart of being a Jedi he-he will never, I think, truly understand." He looked over at Yoda. "Master Yoda, you and I have been close since I was a boy. An infant. Yet if ending this war one week sooner-one day sooner-were to require that I sacrifice your life, you know I would." "As you should," Yoda said. "As I would yours, young Obi-Wan. As any Jedi would any other, in the cause of peace." "Any Jedi," Obi-Wan said, "except Anakin." Yoda and Mace exchanged glances, both thoughtfully grim. Obi-Wan guessed they were remembering the times Anakin had violated orders-the times he had put at risk entire operations, the lives of thousands, the control of whole planetary systems- to save a friend. More than once, in fact, to save Obi-Wan. "I think," Obi-Wan said carefully, "that abstractions like peace don't mean much to him. He's loyal to people, not to principles. And he expects loyalty in return. He will stop at nothing to save me, for example, because he thinks I would do the same for him." Mace and Yoda gazed at him steadily, and Obi-Wan had to lower his head. "Because," he admitted reluctantly, "he knows I would do the same for him." -----signature----- "The ways of the Living Force are beyond our understanding... But fear not. You are in the hands of something much greater and much better than you can imagine." - Qui-Gon Jinn
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iLoveAnakin7 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 8/5/07 2:45pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/5/07 2:50pm (3 edits total) Edited By: iLoveAnakin7
	Bye Alley, see ya when you come back Obi-wan seemed to really care about Anakin and he knew that there was something going on between Anakin and Padme and Obi-wan wanted to keep it a secret from the other Jedi. He wanted to keep Anakin happy. Obi-wan loved Anakin more then Anakin thought. That's how I like to view it as well ICE. The extent of what Obi-Wan knew is unknown though. I'm just glad that there's going to be a new show with movie characters. I'm looking forward to the live-action show but I'd rather have a show that follows some known Jedi through the Purge rather than a new character. True, I'm not that fond of OCs I like that too. There's also the great Obi-Wan line about how they could be stuck there for a very long time, which is fitting. In the novel Rogue Planet, Obi contemplates a few years of solitude on a desert planet once he's free of Anakin LOL. It's also interesting to me that he chose to intercut Padme giving birth to Luke and Leia and then dying with what could be seen as the death of Anakin Skywalker, fallen Jedi and the birth of Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith. True, and I do actually like that link, and thought that was well done. But I wish she could have died because Anakin choked her so much that it messed her up internally, or threw her up against the wall. I know that sounds harsh, but back when spoilers were coming out there was a concept art of Anakin doing just that. Now to me, that would have made a lot more sense having her die that way - because Anakin would have really injured her. It just makes me mad. There are hardly any strong females in cinema it seems, a lot of the times they fall victim to the damsel in distress, "I need a man to live" role, and that's just what Padme was reduced to in 3. Forrest posted: He looked over at Yoda. "Master Yoda, you and I have been close since I was a boy. An infant. Yet if ending this war one week sooner-one day sooner-were to require that I sacrifice your life, you know I would." "As you should," Yoda said. "As I would yours, young Obi-Wan. As any Jedi would any other, in the cause of peace." "Any Jedi," Obi-Wan said, "except Anakin." Okay, I really like this passage. The first time I read it and it said that Obi-Wan and Yoda would sacrifice each other's lives just like that, I was flabbergasted. If only because my nature is more like Anakin's. I would glady think of a friend first. But then I realized that this is classic Jedi philosophy and the needs of the greater good come first, and really should come first in most cases. "Because," he admitted reluctantly, "he knows I would do the same for him." sniff I wish more scenes like this were in the movie. And yes this scene was, but not written like this, though Obi-Wan does defend Anakin. But the scene before it is not - not the whole thing. But then the movie would be about 4 hrs long, but who cares! LOL EDIT: I found some nice wallpapers yesterday that I'd like to share. -----signature----- Obama/Biden '08
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Master_Starwalker Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 8/5/07 3:51pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0
	True, I'm not that fond of OCs I like some of them such as Corran Horn, but they need to be unique enough to be distinct yet not so overdone that they seem like bigger heroes than the film characters. I think the novel I,Jedi pulls it off perfectly as Corran is compelling enough of a character that you're able to root for him and he's distinct enough from Luke, Han, Leia, Anakin, Obi-Wan, etc. that the book only works with Corran, yet Luke is shown to be more powerful than he is, but still flawed and human. In the novel Rogue Planet, Obi contemplates a few years of solitude on a desert planet once he's free of Anakin LOL. True, and I do actually like that link, and thought that was well done. But I wish she could have died because Anakin choked her so much that it messed her up internally, or threw her up against the wall. I know that sounds harsh, but back when spoilers were coming out there was a concept art of Anakin doing just that. Now to me, that would have made a lot more sense having her die that way - because Anakin would have really injured her. It just makes me mad. There are hardly any strong females in cinema it seems, a lot of the times they fall victim to the damsel in distress, "I need a man to live" role, and that's just what Padme was reduced to in 3. Oh I agree. It's why I like Leia a lot more than I do Padme. She's actually the strongest emotionally of the 3 main characters in the Original Trilogy. I certainly don't think Luke would stay that composed if the Empire had destroyed Tatooine or Han if they destroyed the Falcon and forced him to watch. Okay, I really like this passage. The first time I read it and it said that Obi-Wan and Yoda would sacrifice each other's lives just like that, I was flabbergasted. If only because my nature is more like Anakin's. I would glady think of a friend first. But then I realized that this is classic Jedi philosophy and the needs of the greater good come first, and really should come first in most cases. I think it makes perfect sense, though I think I'm probably more like Luke in that I may be somewhere in the middle assuming I was placed into the hard position that the Jedi are in. It also helps of course that Yoda and Obi-Wan would also sacrifice their own lives to stop the Sith so they would be fine with having to die to end it. I wish more scenes like this were in the movie. And yes this scene was, but not written like this, though Obi-Wan does defend Anakin. But the scene before it is not - not the whole thing. But then the movie would be about 4 hrs long, but who cares! LOL That's why while I do like Episode 1 I still wish they had had Anakin be older in Episode 1 and Obi-Wan be the one who found him. -----signature----- "The ways of the Living Force are beyond our understanding... But fear not. You are in the hands of something much greater and much better than you can imagine." - Qui-Gon Jinn
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ShrunkenJedi Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 8/5/07 4:03pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0
	In the novel Rogue Planet, Obi contemplates a few years of solitude on a desert planet once he's free of Anakin LOL. Forrest said: Yeah, that's... right up there with, 'Why do I get the feeling you're going to be the death of me?' Oh, and nice wallpapers, iLoveAnakin7 -----signature----- Fanficcer and Fanartist-- check the profile! My New Drabbles and Viggies: http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/28153417/
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amidalachick Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 8/5/07 5:01pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/5/07 5:02pm (1 edits total) Edited By: amidalachick
	Pretty wallpapers, Dee! In the novel Rogue Planet, Obi contemplates a few years of solitude on a desert planet once he's free of Anakin LOL. Hee hee...I bet he never thought 'a few years' would turn into...twenty? I'm sure if he did that in an AU situation, though, Anakin would show up for a visit. -----signature----- "We figured if it wasn't skimming off the top, tax evasion, or unwed mother death sports, it had to be insurance fraud." "No! It was for someone who needed it!" "You were serious about that?"
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Jedi-knight-25 Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 8/5/07 5:21pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/5/07 5:43pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Jedi-knight-25
	Nice pics, iLoveAnakin7 Do you want me to call you iLoveAnakin7 or Dee? I think Obi-wan should have helped Anakin after the Obi-wan vs. Anakin duel, I think maybe Anakin could have turned back to the light side if Obi-wan helped him, what does everyone else think?
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iLoveAnakin7 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 8/5/07 9:43pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/5/07 9:46pm (1 edits total) Edited By: iLoveAnakin7
	You can call me whatever makes you feel comfortable Ice I certainly don't think Luke would stay that composed if the Empire had destroyed Tatooine or Han if they destroyed the Falcon and forced him to watch. Ironically though, Luke was the much better candidate to take on Vader because he's more like Padme in the personality department, whereas Leia is more like Anakin tee hee. That's why while I do like Episode 1 I still wish they had had Anakin be older in Episode 1 and Obi-Wan be the one who found him. I don't mind Anakin's age, I'm not sure if I ever did or not, if I did, it was only for a fluke second. But I always did wish we could see the time immediately after he arrived at the Temple and began his training. I feel that we missed too much of those 10 years, and Jude Watson's EU just ain't cutting it for me I still wish GL would have written it so that Obi-Wan found him. RotJ would make more sense at least LOL. Now the part where Ben talks to Luke after Yoda dies has gaps in it. It really does make Obi-Wan look like a liar. I'm just keep thinking... "You did not take it upon yourself to train him really, Qui-Gon wanted you to." Not to mention, he implies that HE found him, thought he was fascinating, and then chose him on his own. Yah I know, I'm picky, but I still think this is a plot hole right up there with Leia saying she remembers her real mother, almost implying she spent a period of months with Padme after she was born. Yeah, that's... right up there with, 'Why do I get the feeling you're going to be the death of me?' LOL Poor Obi, he's so ironic and doesn't even know it. He drops a lot of anvils in the PT. You're welcome Shrunken, glad you liked them. I'm sure if he did that in an AU situation, though, Anakin would show up for a visit. Oh I'm sure Anakin would show up and pester him just for the heck of it. Funny thing is, by RotS, even if the war wasn't going on, I'm sure he would have invited Anakin along for old times sake....eh...maybe LOL. I think Obi-wan should have helped Anakin after the Obi-wan vs. Anakin duel, I think maybe Anakin could have turned back to the light side if Obi-wan helped him, what does everyone else think? Well I'm sorely sorry to have no faith in Anakin at this point, and I believe he deserved what he got. GL has said as much on the DVD. Anakin burning was his punishment for his atrocities. I don't care that Anakin was scared of losing Padme and did it all for her. Poppy-***. It may have started out that way, but in the end, she was just an excuse. You can see that in his final convo to her. The power has eaten his brain. You know I do love Anakin's character, but it stops there. I think he was all about himself at that moment and personifies the "Me me me" aspect of a person to a T. He wasn't always like that, though he often boasted as a child, but it only got worse with Jedi training. Not once did he say he wants to save Padme for herself, it was all about him not wanting to live without her. She was the last of his family since he had lost his mother. I think he could have taken losing Padme if his mother had not died. I see a lot of people say Obi-Wan was cruel for leaving Anakin there to burn, but I do not agree. Again, people are only seeing Anakin's side here, Obi-Wan had just had his heart broken by his best friend. He was betrayed. Anakin destroyed their friendship, and everything Obi-Wan knew and stood for within a matter of a few lightsaber strikes. He slayed defenseless children*. In the end Obi-Wan could kill him off, but left him to the Force. In the RotS novel, it says Obi-Wan was often a merciful man, but he was feeling merciful toward Anakin. As far as turning back, Anakin IMO had no drive to turn back until Luke came along, and he saw what pure love Luke possessed for him. JMO -----signature----- Obama/Biden '08
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Jedi-knight-25 Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 8/5/07 10:13pm Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/5/07 10:16pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Jedi-knight-25
	I was shocked at what Anakin did and I was wondering why would he do that when Anakin was trained by the very people he was betraying. He should have chose the right path and saving Padme was not an excuse for what he did, but I am gald Luke came and saved him. Luke succeded where Anakin failed, he refused Palpatine's offer. Tomorrow I will post at least 2 pictures. iLoveAnakin7 I will call you Dee from now on. I will see everyone in the morning.
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arbed Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 8/6/07 7:13am Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/6/07 7:16am (2 edits total) Edited By: arbed
	Dee, I see it your way, but I'll add that Obi-Wan believed (and this ended up to be a wrong belief, but Yoda also believed it) that Anakin the person, the soul, was already gone -- consumed by the evil personality of Darth Vader. In their minds he was a Sith and always would be a Sith. And the Jedi are sworn to destroy the Sith - not help them. Obi-Wan wouldn't outright kill Anakin as he's laying there helpless, but rather left it to the Force whatever would happen. So he walks away. Obviously Luke proved this wrong, but until that time, it's what was firmly believed by the Jedi. It turns out that only awakening love in the soul would be able to bring Vader back into the light. -----signature----- "HELLO, THERE!" 24 fan, Trekker, and Cheesehead "Remember, the Force will be with you....always" - Obi-Wan Kenobi ANH
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amidalachick Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 8/6/07 7:39am Subject: RE: A Fateful Bond: The Anakin/Obi-Wan Brotherhood Fan Thread V 2.0 - Date Edited: 8/6/07 7:41am (1 edits total) Edited By: amidalachick
	He slayed defenseless children. Click this link. Scroll about halfway down the page to BlindMan's post from 6/18/06. You will never view that scene the same way again. In all seriousness, I'm not entirely sure what I think about the aftermath of the duel. Anakin did horrible things, yes, and I can definitely see Obi-Wan's side. I probably would do the same things if I were in Obi's situation. But...I have a fire phobia, and what happened to Anakin is about the worst fate I could imagine. I can stomach a lot of gore and violence, but watching that scene physically hurts (which is why I don't watch it anymore...Mustafar never happened at all in my world! ) And I guess I'm just not sure anyone deserves that. -----signature----- "We figured if it wasn't skimming off the top, tax evasion, or unwed mother death sports, it had to be insurance fraud." "No! It was for someone who needed it!" "You were serious about that?"
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