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amidalachick
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Apparently Yoda wants Anakin to learn to become de-tached...........................................
Or maybe he's just trying to teach Anakin to handle attachment in a more...healthy way? Learn to let go and all that. But...yeah, giving him a Padawan still seems like a weird way to do that.
Aside from all that, I do think Anakin would be a good master. And Obi-Wan would definitely have some "Hahahahahah! Now you know what I had to go through!" moments. 
Sidenote: Every time I hear Madonna's song "4 Minutes", I think of Ani and Obi doing heroic stuff and being the Team, and I get so excited for the movie. No matter what, it's gonna be fun. 
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Well, ya know what's gonna be fun? INDY!!!! Oh, yeah!    You watch, this is gonna be big!
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amidalachick
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Page 2? Nuh-uh. Don't worry, Ani and Obi, we still love you! 
Did you get to see Indy, arbed? How was it?
The only Indy movie I've seen so far is Temple of Doom. I need to watch the other ones.  Crystal Skull looks good, though.
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 Forgive me fellow Ani/Obi shippers! I'm truly sorry I haven't posted in like... months... School has been... well you guys can probably guess, but summer is on its way!
amidalachick posted:
Aside from all that, I do think Anakin would be a good master. And Obi-Wan would definitely have some "Hahahahahah! Now you know what I had to go through!" moments.
Wouldn't that have been funny? I truly wonder if Anakin could've handled it in the long run...
BTW, I saw Indy on Sunday and I thought it was pretty good considering how long it has been since the last one. The plot was a little wierd, but overall a good movie. Yet again, it wasn't as great as the original 3. My take on why is because in the original 3, there wasn't so much of special effects and the movie relied more on the plot and actual actors portraying those characters. In Crystal Skull, it is more action packed and intense, but no doubt, still a good movie.
amidalachick posted:
The only Indy movie I've seen so far is Temple of Doom. I need to watch the other ones. Crystal Skull looks good, though.
Trust me, you aren't wasting your time if you watch Raiders of the Lost Ark, and the Last Crusade. Very worthwhile, but I think you'll see that Temple of Doom wasn't up to par with the 1st and 3rd installments.
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arbed
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I liked Indy 4, but it was...how shall I put it...different. I tried to put my finger on it for several hours afterwards, and finally figured it out. For me, there was a lack of tension that pervaded the other 3 movies. All of Indy's "jams" were just not edge-of-your-seat enough. Heck, he even has time to jabber on while in a dry form of quicksand!
Oh, don't get me wrong, it was a fun flick, but IMO lacking compared to the others --- and the ending....well, let's just say I won't go there. Too tacky. Geez.
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iLoveAnakin7 posted:
ETA: Welcome back Forrest!!! 
Well, I suppose it's better if I thank you a month later than never.
iLoveAnakin7 posted:
Anyone going to see the movie opening day? Not me... 
I definitely will.
ShrunkenJedi posted:
Thanks, iLoveAnakin, Alley
Personally, although I think it's a very interesting thing to explore, I can't see Anakin having an apprentice in my personal canon, for a couple of reasons. One, he's still just attained full rank and isn't very experienced-- I'd see Obi-Wan's situation as an aberration because of his promise to Qui-Gon and the fact that Anakin already knew him, and no one else wanted to take him on. I would think that they'd want the most experienced Jedi teaching the young ones, and not ones that they still have reservations about temperment-wise especially! Secondly, I would think the loss of a padawan, even an older one they haven't been with for long, would leave a certain amount of identifiable loss and wouldn't just be completely forgotten. And there is, of course, nothing else at all in canon that shows that loss-- there's no sign that Anakin ever had and lost a padawan, which I find unrealistic.
But as I said, it is an interesting idea to explore
Agreed, I don't see Mace "I don't trust him" Windu or Yoda favoring the idea given that Mace doesn't trust Anakin and I would think Yoda would question it. Of course, I like the idea as a storytelling device because now Anakin will have lost his mother, his "daughter", and his wife.
iLoveAnakin7 posted:
ETA: To make a point of what Shrunken said about the most experienced ones teaching the youngins', I'm starting to get peeved with the concil's seemingly lax attitude about letting anybody train anybody. As much as I LOVE A/O, it would have been wiser IMO to have Anakin trained by a more experienced master (though Obi rocks of course), if they had to train him at all. They really should have just sent him back home, but that opens up another can of worms about Qui-Gon and Obi's promise.
The Jedi probably felt that if they had sent him back home the Sith would have simply taken Anakin and corrupted him. They knew the Sith were aware that he lived on Tatooine given that Darth Maul had attacked them there.
iLoveAnakin7 posted:
Still, doesn't Yoda care enough about Ahsoka as to not make her an Anakin experiment? Jeez....
True, but Anakin is the Chosen One so Yoda may feel that it's worth the danger. The Council also has never doubted Anakin's power so they probably knew that Anakin would be able to keep her safe if they got into a situation Ahsoka couldn't handle.
iLoveAnakin7 posted:
And it would seem that during the time of the CW - in which the dark is starting to encompass everything around them, the jedi wouldn't take such risks.......eh, I'll just wait and see.
I'd think that would be the time when more risks were taken if anything. In a time of peace the Jedi can take their time training Padawans into Knights and can carefully study each Padawan to determine which master would be best suited to train them. However, during the Clone Wars the Jedi's attention is divided and many of the more experienced masters are dead so they have to create some less than ideal master-padawan teams.
Icestar63 posted:
I wonder what will happen to Anakin's padawan... 
I'm 99% sure she'll die sometime in the series.
Queengodess posted:
Apparently Yoda wants Anakin to learn to become de-tached...........................................
Yeah... by giving him someone to care for? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense, if you see it that way. Does Yoda set her up to die, so that Anakin will learn to accept loss? Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Maybe she has a terminal illness that cannot be cured, not even by a Jedi healer... Nah. Seems a bit callous, even for a Jedi.[/quote]
The director did say that he believes the Jedi were corrupted by the Clone Wars, so it's certainly possible that he's going to set the Council up as cold and callous. I think it would be horrible mis-characterization, but I could see it.
arbed posted:
I liked Indy 4, but it was...how shall I put it...different. I tried to put my finger on it for several hours afterwards, and finally figured it out. For me, there was a lack of tension that pervaded the other 3 movies. All of Indy's "jams" were just not edge-of-your-seat enough. Heck, he even has time to jabber on while in a dry form of quicksand!
Oh, don't get me wrong, it was a fun flick, but IMO lacking compared to the others --- and the ending....well, let's just say I won't go there. Too tacky. Geez.
I loved Indy 4, but I can see how the ending could seem tacky.
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Obi Wan and Anakin's story are intertwined. They were master and apprentice, than best friends, than enemies, than best friends and brothers, again.
The friendship between these two reminds me of the friendship between Clark Kent and Lex Luthor on Smallville. Both are best friends, who later become enemies once Lex turns to evil. On that show, Lex is like the big brother Clark never had. In most Superman mythology, Superman tries to redeem Lex, despite all the bad he's done, because deep down, Superman feels there's still some good in Lex.
Obi Wan Kenobi = Clark Kent/Superman
Anakin Skywalker = Lex Luthor
So yes, Obi Wan and Anakin are like brothers where their friendship deteriorates for many years after Anakin becomes evil, than is repaired when Anakin becomes good, again.
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From the trailers and from what I know of the plot, the new Clone Wars movie sounds like the Dirty Harry movie The Enforcer with Anakin as Clint Eastwood and his new, young padawan as Tyne Daly!
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Can I join this Fan Thread? I have been lurking for a long time and feel I should actually join it. I love these two!
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s65horsey posted:
Can I join this Fan Thread? I have been lurking for a long time and feel I should actually join it. I love these two!
Of course you can. Business has been kind of slow, but once the movie comes out, I'm sure we'll pick up speed again. Always nice to see more fans of the boys as a team
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Cool, activity! Nice to see everyone, old and new!
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GS335 posted:
Obi Wan Kenobi = Clark Kent/Superman
Anakin Skywalker = Lex Luthor
That's so funny, because I'd kind of made the connection before that in general Obi-Wan is kind of like Clark. And Obi-Wan is my favourite character in the history of characters, but as a Superman fan Clark/Supes is one of my second-tier favourite characters. And actually, I'm playing this current Sleepy Game (Ghost Ship Executor) as Obi-Wan and I played my last one as Clark... you can probably guess what my personality it like And hence people like Anakin with their reckless, gushy, craziness give me migraines so I feel Obi-Wan's pain
In any case, I think Obi-Wan's the best thing about the series but he as a character would be completely incomplete without Anakin, obviously. The same goes for Anakin, as the central character story-wise. I used to really get annoyed about Anakin but as the prequels went on he grew on me. And on Obi-Wan, which I think was great. Ultimately it definitely got to the point where their relationship is Star Wars to me. That's the heart of the whole thing.
As to the CW... I will be seeing the movie hopefully the day it comes out. But I also have some reservations about Anakin having a padawan. It doesn't really seem to work shoved into that time period. For one thing because it seems like it doesn't even work with the existing CW Microseries since in that Anakin is knighted and then shortly thereafter we're led right up to the opening battle of RotS...? I'm confused about the timeline of the new CW movie and series in relation to the other one.
But then again, I'm definitely a canon purist. Outside of the films, I kind of just take and leave whatever books/games/etc that I do or don't like and fill in the rest in my mind. For instance, I really don't like Jude Watson. I mean, elements of some of her books are ok but overall I hate that they're what's considered canon by most. I think it's really terrible that these important and really juicy backgrounds of padawanship for Obi-Wan and Anakin both were left to some generic kids books. I just wish they could have been left to adults. There's definitely some fanfic I think is better than EU.
...sorry about that I don't care if other people like EU, I just have a really selective time with it. Also there's waaaaaaay too much to keep track of. I might try reading some more this summer, though. Any good suggestions, particularly of ones that might feature my favourite Obi-Wan/Anakin duo? I am planning on reading Labyrinth of Evil...
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Hey, solojones, horsey! Welcome
I've always loved the Clark/Lex and Obi-Wan/Anakin relationships too, they way that Obi/Clark both alternately is friends with and cares about Anakin/Lex and is their worst enemy and the only person keeping them from getting even more powerful, too (loved the way Smallville handled the Clark/Lex relationship, you can probably tell. Haven't watched it in a few years, though). It's just great storytelling and psychological drama. I'm more of an Obi-Wan/Clark person too, sj, ego, recklessness and power-tripping drive me up the wall
And I also rarely read EU. I'd rather be able to fill in the holes in the movies myself to my own taste
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solojones posted:
he as a character would be completely incomplete without Anakin, obviously. The same goes for Anakin, as the central character story-wise. I used to really get annoyed about Anakin but as the prequels went on he grew on me. And on Obi-Wan, which I think was great. Ultimately it definitely got to the point where their relationship is Star Wars to me. That's the heart of the whole thing.
ITA solojones. Well said. Sadly I think a lot of SW fans miss, or overlook the importance of this relationship, though IMO it was the most defining one for both of them.
solojones posted:
I really don't like Jude Watson. I mean, elements of some of her books are ok but overall I hate that they're what's considered canon by most. I think it's really terrible that these important and really juicy backgrounds of padawanship for Obi-Wan and Anakin both were left to some generic kids books.
Again ITA. I've read the Jedi Quest books written by her, and it was just doom and gloom for these two from day one. Obi-Wan was ALWAYS insecure, and Anakin ALWAYS had evil in him. Let's not forget that Ferus Olin was just the picture of perfectness, and always caught Anakin behaving badly more than his own Master 
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Any good suggestions, particularly of ones that might feature my favourite Obi-Wan/Anakin duo? I am planning on reading Labyrinth of Evil...
LOE is pretty good. One of my favorites for the boys. The banter they share in that one makes you realize how close they were. I don't know if you have read the novelization for RotS, but if you're a fan of the boys you should.  I know there are some graphic novels out there by Darkhorse....Clone Wars vol. 7 I believe, "When they were brothers", and there's a book called "Outbound Flight"...Anakin is 14 in it. They are not the main focus of the book though, but they are in there a decent amount of time and we get some insight into their relationship. Oh yes, also read "Rogue Planet". It takes place three years after TPM.
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