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Cloned_Sidious
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10/28/07 2:22am
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Wow. There are very few things I truly don't like about Star Wars (Greedo shoots first, the Hayden ghost), then there are few bad things which I don't necessarily dislike (Jar Jar Binks, the script of the Prequel love scenes) and I didn't want the Expanded Universe to expand so far forwards (they should have managed to get some kind of peace which would have ended the Saga, and not made the New Jedi Order, or anything that comes after it).
The rest of the article describes a very different person, and there is no way I can identify myself with it.
But I am not sure if I am a real Star Wars fan, because I only own about a dozen toys (from the time I was a kid), some Lego, a pillow, 37 books, went to midnight premiere once, and have all the movies in video form (the Original Trilogy was taped years before the Special Editions of 1997) and the Original Trilogy in DVD form.
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MrGeek
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10/28/07 7:06am
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Oh lawl. I have to say I agree with most of that stuff.
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Thunk00
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10/28/07 8:47pm
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Well, this is true. A person unaffiliated with Star Wars will consider the franchise to be great, and most hardcore fans will consider the original trilogy at least as great movies. But hardcore fans are infinitely more attuned to the universe, and see an infinite number of areas for improvement, thus writing off Star Wars as being a mere fraction of the ingenious franchise it could have, potentially, been. This phenomenon can be seen with most large communities revolving around a convoluted universe.
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Ludo_Kressh
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10/29/07 5:57am
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Yes, I think everyone can find something they hate about Star Wars but it's the sense of fantasy and adventure that keeps us coming back for more, IMO.
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Padmes_love_slave24
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10/30/07 6:29pm
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This is article summarizes the very reason why I hate many Star Wars fans and I don't want to associate myself in the least bit with the kind of fans the author is referring to in the article!
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Beautiful_Disaster
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Oh..so that's been my problem all along. I'm not a true fan.
Because I can look at the entire series as a whole and not hate it.
Because ROTJ is my favorite of the Saga
Because I enjoy Mark's acting
Because I saw nothing wrong with Hayden and the prequels.
Because I love The Masters of Teras Kasi
What would I have ever done with myself had I not read this article? Probably just gone on in my delusions.  
Altough I must say that when I heard Palpy say in Jedi, "an entire legion of my best troops await them" I said to myself "If these are his best troops, I would hate to see his worst."
I admit the Saga is flawed, but this person certainly has a lot of hate in them..considering the word was used so many times. 
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The_Big_Z
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I believe that this person is absolutely incorrect. As was said before, looking at the saga as a whole, it is very good. Also, Mark and Hayden's acting was whiny only because it was in their character to be. And frankly, it wasn't really that annoying.
I have considered myself an avid Star Wars fan for years now and I have yet to find something about Star Wars that I absolutely hate beyond a doubt.
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ThePriminister05
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Beautiful_Disaster posted:
Oh..so that's been my problem all along. I'm not a true fan.
Because I can look at the entire series as a whole and not hate it.
Because ROTJ is my favorite of the Saga
Because I enjoy Mark's acting
Because I saw nothing wrong with Hayden and the prequels.
I agree with all of that. Return of the Jedi rocks!!!
THANK YOU for this thread. Someone finally sees what I see. It's like jeez, shut up.
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anidanami124
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11/4/07 11:13am
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Wait wait wait so becasue I own all six movies on DVD and five of them on VHS I'm not a Star Wars fan?  Because I own and like KOTOR have some of the books and comic books a long with a few CD's I'm not a Star Wars fan? So that most also mean I'm not any Epica fan a Final Fantasy fan or a Football fan.
I'm not sure you can be a fan of anything and hate the object of your fandom. Isn't that sort of contradictory?
Well it depends just for exmaple there is a band I like called Nightwish they have six CDs out seven if you count and EP they put out called Over the Hills and Far Away. Any wasy I like Ever thing after there first CD. But if I only liked one of there CDs and hated the rest I'm not really a Nightwish fan no matter how much I say it.
I can't like once CD and think the rest are bad and still say I'm a fan. Becasue at that point I'm not a fan of the band I'm just a fan of that one CD.
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Good article. Basically I guess if you're that passionate about something, you are bound to hate aspects of it or be very critical. Because you care enough to hate.  I'm a fan of comic books as well, but I have no problem thinking that some of the current storylines really suck.
I like most of the EU, but I strongly dislike the prequels, and the changes to the OT.
Really though, if George Lucas hadn't touched the Star Wars movies after the 1995 THX thing, and had just given them a nostalgic theatrical release and an inevitable DVD release, I probably would still think that Star Wars was the greatest thing ever, because I can look past the Luke/Leia creepiness and the ewoks.
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Kuru-Dawson
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Hey, wait, I LOVE KOTOR! That must mean . . . oh no, all this time I . . .oh, God, no!
Oh yeah, and . . . "Jedi Apprentice" and "New Jedi Order" rock beyond description.
Oh, and, I actually like the changes George has made to the originals, and hope he continues to make changes until the change between the two trilogies are truly seamless.
*runs and hides*
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LordGrievous1138
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2/2 10:40am
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Just read that guy's follow-up. It's nice how he whines about how people misinterpreted his relationship with his ex and SW's factor in their breakups... even though it's HIS fault for mentioning his personal affairs to begin with in a publicly-available editorial piece that he KNEW would attract much feedback and controversy. 
I'm proud to be a false SW fan.
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xx_Anakin_xx
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I love everything, movies, comics, novels, games...whatever. I read it all - accept it all, I do not! I have my own version of continuity. Yoda would be so proud.
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Kuru-Dawson
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For us 'falsies', it's actually very easy to even accept the most prominent continuity errors, because we can just blame any misinformation on Obi-Wan's addiction to lying. So really, there is no reason NOT to accept everything about the prequels, EU and re-releases, accept to simply be stubborn and hold on to a sentimental memory of what you thought Star Wars was way back in '77 when you were nine. The rest of us can see how dated the original films looked, am I for one am glad Lucas made the changes and additions he has. Sure, sometimes the flow of things gets a little sloppy here and there, but I'm sure in time, Lucas will re-edit and re-record dialogue across the board so that everything will make perfect sense ultimately, 
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Thrawn1786
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Juken_Rukhan posted:
I guess im not a true Star Wars fan. I love the orginal trilogy and the prequals. I love the EU and the games. Yes, there are some things wrong with it but it can be over looked
You and me both, I guess we're not 'true' fans.
Can one really define a 'true fan' though? Or is it a matter of opinion?
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