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Sereana_Nightstar
Title: Former FanForce CR
Tampa Bay, FL US
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Date Posted:
9/25/05 1:37pm
Subject:
Fan Force Chapter Open Meeting
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It seems that fans are not happy with how the chapter is organized at this time. Since the chapter is made up of fans that participate....and this is supposed to be democracy based...everyone has the chance to voice their say on Oct. 8th at the open meeting. I will be presiding over the meet and each particant will have an equal amount of time to have the floor.
Please write down what you feel the problems are and a reasonable solution...please keep points simple and a truely rational solution to the problems you see.
I do want to point out that previously a more structured format was used and was unsuccessfull. According to fans that participated, they wanted a more loose format so that members could just enjoy doing workshops, planning and going to events together and have fun with Star Wars and other sci fi fans.
This led to a handful of fans taking care of all the obligations of keeping the chapter going. This is alot of work, time and expense. So please really think about what you will be presenting to the other members.
Yes, this is like having an arbitration...but it needs to be done. There will be elections coming and all positions will be open for nominations...anyone who wants to be nominated needs to voice their interest in the position/positions they want to be nominated for. There will be a period of discussion and then elections. Positions that are not challenged will remain with the current person continuing...unless that person wishes to step down.
I am hoping that this will be a productive discussion group on Oct. 8th and am setting up a Yahoo, closed chat room. You can do with it what you want...I do not feel that posting on the TFN appropriate and the chapter will no longer exist according to the staff and moderators.
Please remember what you say now will only cause more hurt and bad feelings in the future. We have all said things in the past and have probably done things we regret....so let's try to get this group on an even keel and have some good times with friends.
I would like everyone to please PM or emal me with their opinion. I will also be setting up the yahoo private chat and I will moderating it for ideas. You will need to identify yourself by name or screen name.
Thanks and I hope to see all of you on Oct. 8th.
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Jedijace007
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Date Posted:
9/25/05 2:33pm
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RE: Fan Force Chapter Open Meeting
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At this point, i dont know if the Tampa bay fanforce is meant to be. Since the days of Ron, we've always had issues with "authority" who gets this position or that, and so on. I really dont know why. At this point its time for a *DISCLAIMER*
Im a "non active member" at this point, havnt been active for 4 months, so my say doesnt count. However, I am known to be outspoken so i will have my say regardless. *END DISCLAIMER*
this is a FAN GROUP. We are a group of people who love star wars, and hang out ONCE A FREAKING MONTH (if that) to be around other people who understand, and even participate in our obsession for Star Wars. We all have busy lives, and in todays modern world, "free time", truly is a LIMITED RESOURCE. Now My question, is this:
Why do we even need a President, or a treasurer, or ANY of this stuff. I dont come to meetings, spending my limited free time, to be restricted by guidelines, and whos in charge of this or that. One of the things ive always hated, since my first meeting years ago, was the "meeting structure". Taking down minutes of a meeting, and so on.
When I come to a meeting, it is for these purposes.
1) to meet new people, fellow fans, and hang out with old friends etc.
2) discuss collecting or whatever other SW related pastimes i wish to discuss.
3) see Ross's badass customs (that he should make into a business because he's so damn good at it.)
4) have a good time.
it is NOT, to sign a membership statement. It is NOT, to follow rules and guidelines. It is NOT to whine and complain about another group of fans. Face it, we're all mature adults, and if someone gets out of line, one of us will usually say something. We dont need rules to govern our behavior. Rules work for Fortune 500 companies. For fangroups, they just piss people off and drive members away. I know most of you pretty well, and we are not a rowdy group of teenagers that needs chaperones or a rules structure. If i wanted to spend my free time folowing rules and being all tight-assed about everything, i would just stay an extra day at work.
Now i dont have all of the story, but I am hearing things that sound EXACTLY like when Ron ran the group 2 years ago. New members coming one time and leaving unhappy. Is this true? If so, i say the Tampa FF is a group doomed to failure.
I'll close with this: If we want the fanforce to continue, we need to do away with positions entirely, and just focus on the basics: Fellow fans hanging out, discussing SW and watching movies. If i want politics, I'll watch C-span. If I want fighting, I'll watch Jerry Springer.
If I want both, I'll just start a political discussion with Kris (xyber hex)
I want Star wars fandom, and shouldnt that be enough to base a group on?
Rant over, continuing onward.
Edit x2 I cant spell. Forgive my ignorance.
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Sereana_Nightstar
Title: Former FanForce CR
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Date Posted:
9/25/05 2:41pm
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Your opinion does count Jace! and I beleive you have the idea of a grass roots group.
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Jedijace007
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Date Posted:
9/25/05 2:46pm
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What time and place on the 8th? LMK -jace
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Sereana_Nightstar
Title: Former FanForce CR
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Date Posted:
9/25/05 3:48pm
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I am looking at Beef's if I can get it, time 2 pm.
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Jedijace007
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Date Posted:
9/25/05 4:12pm
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I cant make it until maybe 6 on the 8th, but please dont change the time on my account. I rarely ever attend meetings anymore, so my opinion really shouldnt count. Besides, if anyone wants to know my thoughts, they can read 4 posts above 
onward!
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Sereana_Nightstar
Title: Former FanForce CR
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Date Posted:
9/25/05 5:36pm
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That's ok and others can post too.
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Sereana_Nightstar
Title: Former FanForce CR
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Date Posted:
9/27/05 3:49am
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RE: Fan Force Chapter Open Meeting
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bump
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codemaker
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Date Posted:
9/27/05 11:02am
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Jace hit it right on the nail. When I was down there in May at Maria's house for a meeting, I heard 1 voice the entire time, and I said to myself "here we go again". One person should not run the entire show. With a group the size of Tampa's, it should be less formal and more open discussion friendly, rather than the same mouth trying to run the whole meeting. Obviously it's not working and changes need to be made in order to preserve the group. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
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Xyber_Hex
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Date Posted:
9/27/05 12:43pm
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Yes yes kiddies, it is time for Tampa Docking Bay 1138's very own black sheep to give his insight from the book of Hex.
We are not some starship in space, we are not some elite fighting group in some futristic military, hell I do not think we are even allowed outside if the street lights are on.
We are a group of like minded people, with common interests, who enjoy spending time hanging out with each other and discussing this and that.
Some like dressing up, others like collecting, some just like to drink....(well I have to fit in somewhere right?).
A little structure is a good thing, too much is called a cage.
If egos need to be fluffed or something I am sure we can make some little hats or something that say 'special' or 'important' on them.
All through out this group from when I first started watching it, until I finally came out of the shadows, even until now and this is the case in many groups online and offline, people come and always think things can be better, bigger, and then they go.
Longevity is the key and something must be right if people keep coming and the web still grows.
There is always room for input, and improvement , denying that is vanity.
Hmm I will continue this later.
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HippieTrooper
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Date Posted:
9/27/05 3:58pm
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When something stops being fun, its not worth doing anymore. Many people quit having fun some time ago. Thats why they quit showing up. That is why change is needed.
Later
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I only ask for one thing....and that is to have SHARKS....WITH FREAKIN LASER BEAMS ATTATCHED TO THEIR FOREHEADS!!!
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TK-3150
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Date Posted:
9/27/05 4:14pm
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I, for one, am all for just casually hanging out.....that being said, there does need to be some structure if the group wants to move from "hanging out" into "doing events" and "getting the groups name out there". Personally, organizations that I have been involved with in the past always seemed to work better when there was a goup consensus on everything and a nonpartial chairperson that had no vote or opinion except in the case of a tiebreaker. That way there was no control issues. But hey, I would rather just hang out with ya'll rather than trying to organize a bunch of events on top of all the other events I already do with the 501st, my band, work, church, parenting, etc.
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LukeCeremonial22569
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Date Posted:
9/27/05 4:57pm
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We have not had a chnace to have fun since the movie premire. When things come up or ideas are brought up for things to do, people say yeah that would be cool and then those same people back out a week before or at the last minute do to plans with another group. Wonder why that is?
PS. more to come later on this subject.
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Sereana_Nightstar
Title: Former FanForce CR
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Date Posted:
9/27/05 8:03pm
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I understand that the Yahoo groups room is now showing up.. TDB1138 under Yahoo groups. This way you can say what you want without all of us being banned.!
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Date Posted:
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LukeCeremonial22569 posted:
We have not had a chnace to have fun since the movie premire. When things come up or ideas are brought up for things to do, people say yeah that would be cool and then those same people back out a week before or at the last minute do to plans with another group. Wonder why that is?
PS. more to come later on this subject.
If you are reffering to the DVD/game release, we all already told you that our plans with the 501st and Rebel Legion were made since before Dragon-con.
Like I said before, this is supposed to be fun, the minute it starts to feel like you "have" to chose between groups, it is no longer fun and not worth doing anymore. Everyone has the right to choose to do whatever event they feel like with their own time without having to explain themselves to certain people. That is why less and less people show up every month to meetings and events.
And the coin goes both ways, I have tried from the begining to make ALL groups act as one, but what happened last month at the toy con? I invited this group to it, but it was run by the 501st and no one from here, even those who said they were coming (names withheld, you know who you are), ever showed up.
Its real easy to say "501st and RL wont help us with our events and dont show up" but it seems to be really hard to admit "I didnt go to their event" even after you said you would.
We are just beating a dead horse here so Ill quit now.
Later
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Jedijace007
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Date Posted:
9/28/05 10:52am
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RE: Fan Force Chapter Open Meeting
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9/28/05 11:00am (2 edits total)
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i typed up another long winded reply, but after re-reading it i'll just say this:
So long, fanforce! (again)
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