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weezer  13819 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 1:04pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Thanks for the link. I've been looking forward to NYX ever since I saw a preview in Wizard. I agree the art work is flat out amazing (at least on the covers. I'll see about the interior in a minute wink )

My one worry is finding a copy. I don't think that Marvel expected the response NYX is getting. Every shop I've been in recently has had lines of people asking when it comes out and the owners seem worried they didn't order enough. sad

 

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Ender_Sai  28400 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 2:59pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
If I hadn't just bought a car I'd preorder it! sad Heck, I'll just get a friend to buy it and I'll read it. Yet another milestone I have to miss for the pleasure of owning a sports car! devil

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Ender_Sai  28400 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 3:00pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
I just looked at that NYX art; whoa. shock

It is me, or is it reminiscent of some Anime titles, like Jin-roh or other muted films?

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1stAD  5139 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 3:39pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
That's because the coloring is flat and there's not a ton of shading involved in the art. That's pretty much the universal feature of all anime. Though I'd hesitate to call Middleton's art anime-inspired.

But I'll say one thing - I hate anime-inspired artwork appearing in American comics that ISN'T flat-colored. It just looks ugly. The current artist for Uncanny X-Men comes to mind.

 

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Ender_Sai  28400 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 3:44pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
yeah, I just meant that it invoked imagery of those films. Not that it looked derived from anime. happy

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Mr44  15123 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 3:58pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Waheennay: Best line from a Marvel character this week, Hawkeye...

The best in joke ever!!

laugh even more so, if familiar with the original Squadron Supreme min-series...

you see SS was Marvel's dig against the perfect world of the JLA..of course, the SS world self-destructed due to its self-righteousness...

Great stuff..

 

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weezer  13819 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 4:02pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Eh, I would consider Middleton's art anime inspired. IIRC he even said so himself in an interview.

I do like it when its flat colored (I've always used the term cell shaded but that might only pertain to video games) but it isn't necessary for my enjoyment of it. I'm sure I'm in the minority but there seems to be a lack of good anime inspired artists these days. After Joe Mad left the scene there seems to be a void (his art wasn't flat colored either and I loved it). It seemed around that time Marvel and DC were snatching up every artist with a similar style but most of them didn't seem to last sad

 

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1stAD  5139 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 4:17pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Because most artists trying to imitate the style stink rotten at it.

 

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weezer  13819 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 4:23pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
laugh

I guess thats one reason for it. There seemed to me that there were alot of high quality artists using that style. You still see them everyonce in awhile but its on smaller books and not the big titles they used to command.

 

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ParanoidAni-droid  3720 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 7:19pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread

I forget, is Middleton the artist behind the new New Mutants covers? If so, his work is really stunning. Actually, his work is stunning regardless:



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TripleB  4805 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 9:31pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Ender-sai said

TripleB, let me guess, because they are "clearly" Republicans? Mate, if you don't read them because of what they stand for as individuals, then I made a mistake and let's drop it

Oh, you are on target. IT is just that Captain America and Superman had a lot to do with me being whom I am today. So I will just throw out a few things.

THe late 1970's were not a good time in America, or so I remember it. Aside from the days we went to see StarWars, I can't ever remember a sunny day in that dark decade. I remember my dad having troubles finding work, as many americans did. I know he and my mom had trouble and nearly lost the house during that times.

ANd of course, there were bad times for America. It seemed every time I turned on the TV, there were 'Death to America' parades going on all the time, it seemed every saturday morning during cartoons they were being interrupted with news of another hijacking. I was constantly seeing Soviets on the march, Pro-Communist/anti-USA rallies, It just generally was not a good time for the spirit of America back then.

My mom noticed I was getting down and depressed and when she talked to me about it, she says that I was 'scared', that America was going to be destroyed by people who hated us and such, that kidn of thing.

So my mom got me my first Superman and Captain America comics back then, in hopes of it showing me what was good and right with AMerica. And it did that and more, when you look at what Superman and Captain America stand for, especially back in those dark days of the 70's. So much that it is what really kindled in me the belief in America, in freedom, justice, honor, loyalty, and patriotism, and really has played a foundational role in who I am today.

When 1980 hit, and I saw Ronald Reagan run ,there I pretty much saw these ideals embodied in him. I knew with Reagan as president, that AMerica would become strong again, and that things would get better for america and it sure as hell did.

I was really hurt when Kaine told me about the new direction they have taken Captain America, about him becoming a hippie anti-war protestor or some crap like that.

 

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Drew_Atreides  6870 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 10:07pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
...hey... a comicbook thread! How'd i miss this?


Have been a Comicbook geek for the past 10 years or so..

Have slowed down as of late due to the fact that a) Comics are just too damned expensive nowadays... b) the majority of the x-books stink (Grant Morrison is horribly overrated) c) Greg Rucka isn't on "Detective Comics" anymore (oops, that's a DC book :P)



My two exceptions to my current straying from the comic-herd: Garth Ennis on 'The Punisher' and Peter Milligan and Mike Allred on "X-statix" aka the relaunched "X-Force"....

Both are smartly written, edgy, and packed full of witty humour...Try to pick up copies of them whenever i can...

To me, "X-Statix" is the only book that has really lived up to the 'edgy' claims that have been made concerning the X-books since Joe Q arrived..

Of course, i guess i'm also one of the few who felt that Joe Casey's run on "Uncanny" was terrific.. Everything that people were saying about Morrison's "new x-men" was actually TRUE of Casey's run...




 

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1stAD  5139 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 10:13pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
It's a shame Joe Casey copped so much flak during his run.

 

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Drew_Atreides  6870 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 10:38pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
..i agree..


And boy did it get me a wee bit ticked to see how the powers-that-be took a great big dump on the storylines which Casey had started (managed to pick up the issues of Uncanny (at this point in time being written by that Chuck Austen guy who seems to be writing pretty much EVERYTHING i saw at the comicbook store :P) where Stacy X was written out, as well as the 'finale' to the Church of Humanity storyline..

Both have me boycotting the book until Austen is no longer writing.. Just could not believe the disrespect shown towards Casey, ya know?

 

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weezer  13819 posts
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Date Posted: 9/17/03 10:48pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
The first and only time I subscribed to a comic was so that I could catch casey's run on Uncanny. Sad part was that I got one or two before they shifted directions. Then I got stuck with a bunch of x-men issues that I would of never picked up at the comic shop sad

Needless to say I don't think I'll ever try out Marvel's subscription service again unless I'm positive that the creators will be on for a set run.

 

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