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KaineDamo  5008 posts
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Date Posted: 9/18/03 2:00am Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
"I was really hurt when Kaine told me about the new direction they have taken Captain America, about him becoming a hippie anti-war protestor or some crap like that."

Hmmm... i don't think thats exactly what i said. I think i said that it was Spidey that was a hippy, i don't think i said either of them were anti-war protestors. If you ask me, its very clear that Captain America is conservitive, and that Spidey is a liberal.

I remember the issue that i was telling TripleB about. Captain America disaproved of these terrorists trying to blow up an Airport to get to Dr. Doom, and i think it was Spidey that just flat out disaproved of anyone trying to kill Dr. Doom.

At the time i think i twisted it a little for my own agenda.

 

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1stAD  5139 posts
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Date Posted: 9/18/03 3:38am Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
I hope I'm the only one who takes perverse delight in reading Claremont's Xtreme X-Men tongue

Marvel Previews for September 24 courtesy of X-Fan

Xtreme X-Men #31





First off, I have to say, Igor Kordey's work has vastly improved since his New X-Men run (admittedly, those issues he pencilled were last minute replacements)! I would prefer that Sal Larocca was still on Xtreme (I guess Larocca covers will have to suffice), but from Claremont's comments on X-fan it looks like he's pleased with Kordey's work. And it does look good. It's unfortunate that we didn't get to see the new Xtreme costumes in action (though Kordey posted uninked pencils on his website, http://kordey.ca ). They still retain the red and black coloring, but they're more urban and feature detachable sleeves and coat bottoms.
Kordey's new costume designs

Second, it looks like 2 years after everyone else in Marvel has done so, Claremont has adopted the recap page for Xtreme, though he still uses the traditional narration boxes instead of the standard Marvel recap page. Hopefully with the recap page he'll no longer put long-winded descriptions of characters and their powers into more narration boxes (or worse yet, into the dialogue proper). From these first pages it looks like Claremont is finally updating his outdated style. Now this is only a 4 page preview, but hopefully he's dropped the narration boxes and thought bubbles completely.

 

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KaineDamo  5008 posts
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Date Posted: 9/18/03 4:21am Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Nobody does thought bubbles anymore!

 

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1stAD  5139 posts
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Date Posted: 9/18/03 12:58pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Heh...you'd THINK that, wouldn't you? wink

 

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Waning Drill  6124 posts
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Date Posted: 9/18/03 5:30pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Although Bendis and Austen seem to be writing everything these days, and the editors at Marvel have been continually earning my ire since 2000, here are some titles that I think are worth reading:

Spider-Man
The Amazing Spider-Man - JMS (#30-present) Although The Spectacular Spider-Man has started up again, I'd recommend reading the TPBs of Jenkins' previous run on Peter Parker: Spider-Man (#20-50) before picking it up.
Ultimate Spider-Man - Bendis

X-Men
There are about a hundred of these titles out right now, but in my experience only two are really worth my money: Exiles by Judd Winick and Weapon X by Frank Tieri. Oh yeah, and Vaughan's Mystique ongoing title is pretty good too. Of course, you may check out New X-Men if Magneto's return excites you.

Fantastic Four - Mark Waid
Thor - Dan Jurgens
Daredevil - David Mack

The MAX line
Alias - Bendis
Thor: Vikings - Garth Ennis




 

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Drew_Atreides  6870 posts
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Date Posted: 9/18/03 10:37pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Now i know the ULTIMATE line has received alot of critical praise, but am i the only one who just can't get into them?


I just find the whole idea REALLY silly.. Yet another reason why comics are near-impossible for a person who isn't among the iniatiated to pick up..

I mean, if Johnny-i-saw-the-X-men-movie comes and picks up an issue of "Ultimate X-Men", will he not be entirely confused?

What is there to be gained from this?

 

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Ender_Sai  28400 posts
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Date Posted: 9/19/03 3:22am Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
No, but Spidey actually works really well for this format.

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TripleB  4805 posts
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Date Posted: 9/19/03 6:20pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Kaine said

Hmmm... i don't think thats exactly what i said. I think i said that it was Spidey that was a hippy, i don't think i said either of them were anti-war protestors. If you ask me, its very clear that Captain America is conservitive, and that Spidey is a liberal.

We were talking about something else, and you went into how they changed Captain America and said something about becoming a hippie or anti-war protester or something like that, which to me I took that apparently a freak left wing liberal had gotten to be editor at Marvel Comics, and was willing to destroy the reputation of one of AMerica's greatest SuperHero's just to make a political point in 2003.

I remember the issue that i was telling TripleB about. Captain America disaproved of these terrorists trying to blow up an Airport to get to Dr. Doom, and i think it was Spidey that just flat out disaproved of anyone trying to kill Dr. Doom.

It was something else, I forget just when or woen. I do remember the conversation you are refering to, my point was that I remember in an Invaders comic, that Captain America, Bucky, and the Original Human Torch infiltrated a German town deep behind enemy lines, to try to assasinate Arnin Zola and someone else, and how Captain America never shied away from it as it was a legitimate military target, and that Captain America should have recognized that when it came to Dr Doom.

At the time i think i twisted it a little for my own agenda.

Well, thanks for clearing that up!!!!!

I hope you get banned for that happy

I spent the last few months believing that one of my all time favorite characters had been corrupted by some gay freak left wing liberal at Marvel just to make points in 2003.

 

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Ender_Sai  28400 posts
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Date Posted: 9/19/03 8:33pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
I spent the last few months believing that one of my all time favorite characters had been corrupted by some gay freak left wing liberal at Marvel just to make points in 2003.

Take that **** out of my thread, TripleB. No room for fascism here. plain

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Ender_Sai  28400 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/03 2:30am Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Uh-oh. I meant that to be a joke but I didn't add the jokey " tongue ", instead putting a plain . Apologies for any confusion. happy
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KaineDamo  5008 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/03 4:33am Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Ugh! What has this thread turned into. Someone get us back on a good track.

 

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Drew_Atreides  6870 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/03 10:08am Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
...has anyone been reading this "Marvel 1602" series by Neil Gaiman?


I just stumbled upon it at the comic store the other day...

Wondered if it was worth checking out...?

 

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ParanoidAni-droid  3720 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/03 11:20am Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread

Yes, 1602 is worth your time and your money.

I'm really excited and feel really clever because I just figured out who Virginia Dare's bodyguard is. Here's a hint, he's a BLONDE Native American and he takes out the Vulture with a disc.

~PAd

 

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Ender_Sai  28400 posts
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Date Posted: 9/20/03 4:03pm Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
My mate has been raving about "1602", but I've not had time to get it. I can always borrow his later though... grin

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KaineDamo  5008 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/03 4:08am Subject: RE: "True believers!" - the Marvel Comics thread
Hey, what happened to this thread??

What do you guys think of the revelations in Amazin Spider-Man #499, the buildup to the big #500?? (see my thread in the YJCC)

Here's a spoiler pic:

SPOILER PIC FROM INSIDE OF AMAZING SPIDEY 500!!

 

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