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Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "The Cotton Club"
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Zaz
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5/5 8:07pm
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "Fever Pitch" (2005)
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Another opinion on the problems with "The Golden Compass"
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Zaz
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "The Golden Compass" (2007)
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Next: MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA (2005)
"It had all of the elements of a classic: best-selling novel pedigree, a beautiful cast, and an Oscar-winning director attached to film it. Too bad Rob Marshall's version was lost in translation. Even with Asia's elite — Ziyi Zhang, Li Gong, and Ken Watanabe — in starring roles, their jilted English and Hollywoodization of the Japanese rags-to-riches story didn't ring authentic."
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JohnWesleyDowney
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "Memoirs of a Geisha" (2005)
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Spielberg almost directed this, he'd wanted to make it for awhile. His cohorts at Dreamworks, Katzenberg and Geffen begged him not to do it.
This turkey cost a LOT of money, and it's losses provoked much lack of merriment in the executive suites.
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Handmaiden_Yane
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5/6 9:28pm
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "Memoirs of a Geisha" (2005)
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I wasn't disappointed by Memoirs of a Geisha at all. I loved it.
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "Memoirs of a Geisha" (2005)
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I loved this movie actually, but then again I never had an opportunity to read the book.
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Obi Anne
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "Memoirs of a Geisha" (2005)
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In return to Fever Pitch I must say that I liked the British version better than the book. In all the books I've read by Nick Hornby I've always been really angry and irritated towards the main characters, and in the films they seem to be a lot more likeable.
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Zaz
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5/7 7:43pm
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "Memoirs of a Geisha" (2005)
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Next: "A SOUND OF THUNDER" (2005)
"It could have been a second Jurassic Park. Instead the sci-fi flick, based on a Ray Bradbury short story about a store called Time Safari that transports people back in time and allows them to hunt prehistoric animals, suffered from cheap special effects and a kitschy tagline of ''Evolve or die.''"
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Zaz
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "A Sound of Thunder" (2005)
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TROY (2004)
"This dumbed-down version of Homer's Iliad was more an homage to Brad Pitt's bronzed pecs as Greek warrior Achilles than to the great Trojan War. In another risible accomplishment, the characters — Diane Kruger as Helen of Troy, and Orlando Bloom as Paris — age nary a white hair in the 10-year duration of the film's plot."
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Chancellor_Ewok
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Zaz posted:
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TROY (2004)
"This dumbed-down version of Homer's Iliad was more an homage to Brad Pitt's bronzed pecs as Greek warrior Achilles than to the great Trojan War. In another risible accomplishment, the characters — Diane Kruger as Helen of Troy, and Orlando Bloom as Paris — age nary a white hair in the 10-year duration of the film's plot."
Actually, the plot of The Iliad unfolds over the space of just 40 days, IIRC, but otherwise I agree. Great movie, but truly craptacular adaptation. The decision to remove the Olympians really guts the story.
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Vortigern99
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5/8 8:57am
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "Troy" (2004)
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I love this film. Chancellor_Ewok is correct that the movie does not unfold over the course of ten years, as the epic poem does. This to me is evidence that its detractors were not actually paying attention to the movie; perhaps they decided from frame one that they were not going to like it ("Brad Pitt looks like a super-hero! Waaahhh!"), and stuck with their undeservedly negative assessment throughout -- even as this splendid, engrossing, action-packed and moving adventure film played its heart out before their eyes. The movie did gangbusters business in Europe, where people certainly know their Homer; perhaps over there, audiences understood that Troy is not so much an adaptation of Homer, replete with complex rhyme-schemes -- and scheming gods a-la Clash of the Titans -- but rather a look at what the historicity of a real Siege of Troy might have been like. Homer still exists; you can still read any number of translations of The Iliad (I recommend Fagles), but this movie stands quite apart from that sprawling, 3500-year old literary work, which I submit could not be made into a satusfying film largely because of the lengthy descriptive passages and patterns of verbal repetition.
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rumsmuggler
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I loved the film, but haven't gotten around to reading the epic poem yet.
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Obi Anne
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5/8 10:45am
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "Troy" (2004)
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Count me in among those who think that the film is good, even if it isn't particularly close to the Illiad.
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RE: Book v. Movie: Disappointing Movie Adaptations: "Troy" (2004)
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Vortigern99 posted:
Chancellor_Ewok is correct that the movie does not unfold over the course of ten years, as the epic poem does.
Chancellor_Ewok is correct that the poem does not cover the whole ten-year war, only the last few weeks. You need to go back and re-read the book (if you don't already own it, the Fagles translation is very good). 
The best bit of Troy is the short-lived fight between Achilles and whoever the big champion is at the start of the film - unexpectedly brief and impressive. Also, Sean Bean stands out as Odysseus, despite his relatively small role. Apart from that, not so impressive. They should have looked at Sean Connery's fight with the Minotaur in Time Bandits - now that feels mythic!
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darth_frared
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i have to agree with vortigern here that the film was maligned unfairly. it's an awesome attempt to put the events in perspective and it works really really well.
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Vortigern99
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At last, darth_frared and I can agree on something!
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