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Jango10
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4/26 9:45pm
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RE: Preview of Coming Attractions: "Iron Man"
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I guess you liked the Cloverfield method then? It was effective.
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The_Face
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4/26 9:46pm
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RE: Preview of Coming Attractions: "Iron Man"
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I actually know next to nothing about "Iron Man" (the movie, not the comics though I'm no expert about those either). I'd like to go see it, but I'm not sure if I'll have a chance.
EDIT: I saw the first trailer, but it was almost entirely pre-Iron Man Stark material, which will all be within the first minutes. I find limiting myself to the teasers is much more effective and reduces spoiler risk; that's what I'm doing with Indy IV and The Dark Knight too.
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Zaz
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Teaser trailers are always better. And short, subtle trailers, yes.
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JohnWesleyDowney
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Zaz posted:
Teaser trailers are always better. And short, subtle trailers, yes.
Absolutely in agreement here. And yes, I feel like I have been bombarded with Iron Man material. I'm extremely tired of it already and the movie's not even out yet. The marketing departments and trailer producers are now totally drunk with power. They now think they're the filmmakers and not the people who actually make the films. It's nuts. It's the tail wagging the dog.
There have been a least a couple dozen movies in the last few years that I didn't go see because the trailer completely killed the movie for me. I had no desire to see the films, because I felt I'd already seen the films. Someone needs to tell the marketing people their job is to sell tickets, not kill desire.
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Nameless1138
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I have to agree with you guys about trailers these days. I always felt that was one of the things that really hurt the Matrix sequel. I remembering seeing it opening night and thinking to myself that I saw every awesome amazing blow your mind shot in the trailer sans the two semi's colliding. So I felt really underwhelmed by the entire movie simply because I never felt like I was seeing something I hadn't seen before, which was pretty much the exact opposite reaction I had to the first Matrix movie.
At this point I've stopped watching the Speed Racer trailers because they've already released like half a dozen of them and really that was about 4 too many.
But to get back on topic, it's kind of the same with Iron Man. I think the trailers for it are cool, but I'm afraid that they've already shown most of the major shots in the trailers. And as it looks, there only appears to be 4 or 5 action scenes at most so I've really been trying to avoid most of the tv spots and other online features. I agree that watching the teaser trailers is the best way to go, most of the teaser trailers tend to be cut better and in general (for me at least) are more exciting than the final trailers plus you don't have to worry about getting the entire story from it like Zaz said.
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PerfectCell
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4/27 7:18am
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Jango10 posted:
The only decent movie Del Toro has made is Pan's Labyrinth. And it was only decent. Hellboy was so ridiculous, it was laughable. It was one of the worst comic book movies I've ever seen. It ranks down there with Spawn.
Pan's Labyrinth was far better than decent, it was the best fantasy movie ever made, hands down, and the best movie of 2006. Hellboy was a great movie, in my top 10 for its year, but it wasn't perfect. Batman Begins on the other hand made my 10 worst for the year it was released and is easily one of the worst comic book movies ever released because it wasn't even cheesy bad, it was just downright bad, and in it induces people into falling asleep.
StarDude posted:
So, wait. You think Batman Begins sucked?
You also think that Heath Ledger can't act?
And you think The Dark Knight will be suckfest?
And anyone who disagrees (and face it, you're in a small minority) has an "erroneous opinion"?
Apparently you aren't that good at following conversation threads. Like how another poster was the first one to state that my opinion that BB is a bad movie was a bad opinion, so I responded in kind. Its pays to, ya know, pay attention.
Zaz posted:
Seeing one trailer these days is enough to spoil a movie for me. They. Just. Won't. Stop.
You can tell the movie's plot, the twist, the denouement, everything. It drives me crazy.
Don't watch the trailers then, I haven't watched a single trailer for a movie in I don't know how long. I go to the bathroom or get something to drink when they are showing them before the movies in the theaters and I change the channel when they are on TV.
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soitscometothis
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4/27 7:39am
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I thought Hellboy was simply okay. On the whole, I felt it was less intelligent than the source comic-book, and less subtle. I put it on par with Constantine.
I think that the worst I could say about Batman Begins is that I sometimes feel it is less than the sum of its parts.
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Zaz
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Date Posted:
4/27 10:12am
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RE: Preview of Coming Attractions: "Iron Man"
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I don't know why the tone in this thread is getting so adversarial, but anyway: Stop. It.
Good point re the trailers. Next time I'll take a break.
For the record: Haven't seen "Hellboy"
Have seen "Batman Begins" and didn't much like it; but then I never liked "Batman" in any of his forms (comic books, etc) so that's just me. Preferred Spiderman. Oh, excuse me, that's Spider-Man. Don't want whomever it was last time to have the same coronary over my punctuation.
Back to topic: "Iron Man"
EDIT: He isn't hyphenated too, is he? 
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The2ndQuest
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4/27 11:10am
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Actually, one thing I love about the Iron Man TV spots and trailers thus far is they really haven't spoiled most of the plot yet- I still have no clue what the villain is about or what his plans are outside of him building a giant version of the Iron Man suit. That's refreshing to still have.
Hellboy wasn't the worst comic book movie ever, but it was overwhelmingly medicore and fairly boring. Even Spawn and Constantine managed to entertain better at times. It takes talent to make Ron Pearlman uninteresting, though. I'll still give the sequel a chance- if only for the visual excellence Del Toro brings in creature designs.
Del Toro can do some great work though- Blade 2 was by far the best of that series (and pretty kick-ass on top of that), and Pan's Labyrinth is one of the best fantasy movies ever (though it's ending is lacking), despite the language factor.
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PerfectCell
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The2ndQuest posted:
Del Toro can do some great work though- Blade 2 was by far the best of that series (and pretty kick-ass on top of that), and Pan's Labyrinth is one of the best fantasy movies ever (though it's ending is lacking), despite the language factor.
Man, the ending of PL makes the entire movie. It doesn't answer anything for you, it completely leaves it up to you to decide whether the fantasy world was real or whether it was made up as an escape by the little girl. That type of ending is the hallmark of a great speculative fantasy.
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rogue_wookiee
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4/27 11:57am
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I may see Iron Man in theatres. The trailer I saw was good and I do like Jon Favereau.
Also Hellboy is a great film with a lot of heart and soul. What it lacks in namebrand recognition and action it more than makes up for with scenes like Hellboy and the young boy spying. Truly great stuff and something I would watch over Batman, X-Men or Spider-Man any day. Whining it isn't as good as the comic is like whining that X2 isn't as good as Whedon's stint on Astonishing X-Men. Mike Mignola loved it so much he produced both Hellboy films and is co-writing the sequel. If it's faithful enough to the comics for the freaking creator, writer and illustrator of Hellboy it's faithful enough for a fan like me.
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Jango10
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But Hellboy is just so dumb and fake looking. I can't get it past my head that this is a guy in a big suit. The Thing in the Fantastic Four suffered the same fate.
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Zaz
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4/27 12:11pm
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Ahem. I believe there are Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth, and Batman Begins threads.
This one is about "Iron Man"
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soitscometothis
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I intend to see it in the cinema. Downey is a very watchable actor, and I think with him in the lead the non-armour moments will still be worth watching.
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JediTrilobite
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I can't wait for this movie. Trailer is awesome.
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