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mrjop2 
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Date Posted: 6/30 8:57pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million
DarthAJ posted:
Hancock looks like ****. I'm guessing it'll be a moderate hit, but deemed a failure ala Superman Returns.


If you're right, then I would bet that when The Dark Knight is released, Wall*E would stay in second and Hancock would go down to third, but I doubt that. All I know is, Wall*E will make the most money out of their 9 film.

 

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Date Posted: 6/30 9:35pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million
Rotten Tomatoes isn't even the best source for critical reactions. Personally, I prefer Metacritic, which limits its sources to legit (or at least half-legit) critics. And the opinion on Hancock (so far) is that it's all right - not exceptionally good, but not bad at all. The New Yorker describes it as "by far the most enjoyable big movie of the summer", and the other two critics at least mention that the effects and the acting are rather good.

And Wall*E could do better than Pixar's other films, but I wouldn't count on it. It's by no means a certainty, as Pixar has made quite a bit of money in the past.

 

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Date Posted: 6/30 10:06pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million
I loved WALL-E.

I don't know if it will be as commercially successfull as previous Pixar films, but there wasn't anything I could critique about the message, which is the one thing I usually tend to do with those films.

I liked Cars, but I thought it odd that for a movie about community it was also about the very devices that have helped us become more seperated.

With WALL-E the message didn't drift and worked in several different themes into one cohesive whole. Not only that, but they had all sorts of neat details and great moments.

I just don't know that it will be the kiddies favorite.

 

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Date Posted: 6/30 10:11pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million
I think it will be very successful commercially. After seeing a sold out theater today, a typical work day, in the middle of the afternoon! I think word-of-mouth is going to lift this movie for several weeks.

 

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Date Posted: 6/30 11:26pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million - Date Edited: 6/30 11:27pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Jabbadabbado
I don't think Wall*E will come remotely close to the worldwide box office take of Finding Nemo. Pixar is advancing feature 3D computer animation as an art, but at the same time the medium has completely lost the novelty it still had to some extent when Nemo came out. Dreamworks is almost outcompeting Pixar commercially (definitely not artistically), and other studios are doing well too in the genre.

The best Wall*E can really hope for I think is the Ice Age 2/Incredibles/Ratatouille range - about $600-$650 million worldwide.

 

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Date Posted: 6/30 11:32pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million

The best Wall*E can really hope for I think is the Ice Age 2/Incredibles/Ratatouille range - about $600-$650 million worldwide.

That's not too shabby! cool

 

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Date Posted: 7/1 5:39am Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million - Date Edited: 7/1 5:41am (2 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
Wall*E has a pretty good chance at those ranges- it's ironic that a movie about a post-apocalyptic future is actually a more positive movie than the cheery, yet-negatively-themed, Cars, ha. laugh I think that's one factor that will certainly push it beyond that movie's totals.


Wanted has a good chance to last longer than expected- word of mouth on Wanted has been very good, and even when I saw it at a late showing on sunday (when such movies usually have lower attendence since people have to go to work on the subsequent monday) it was almost a packed theater. If the word of mouth on Hancock reflects the mixed reviews, it's quite possible Wanted will be able to capitalize on the situation and level the playing field by leveraging that word of mouth and the good reviews.

 

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Date Posted: 7/1 7:50am Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million
Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are an interesting phenomenon. They are the biggest Hollywood celebrities in the world right now. That status seems to translate for them into foreign box office more than domestic box office. Outside the U.S., people go see their movies because of who they are. In the U.S., not so much. We're content to read about them in the tabloids and skip their movies.

Troy was the ultimate Brad Pitt vehicle - it made 73% of its total box office abroad.
Mr. and Mrs. Smith - 61% of its box office abroad.

 

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Date Posted: 7/1 2:40pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million - Date Edited: 7/1 2:42pm (1 edits total) Edited By: mrjop2
Coming back from seeing Wall*E for my forth time now, I'm sticking with my story!

This weekend, this is how it's probably going to go

1. Hancock (I predict it will be in the $90 million range by Sunday Evening which is pretty good considering it is opening on a Tuesday night. I have no doubt this movie will make between $200 and $250 million by the end of it's run.)

2. Wall*E (Completing it's second week, I think by Sunday it will top the $100 Million mark, making about $40 million this week. I predict it will make about $150 million by the end of it's run. Wall*E probably has the best word of mouth ratio right now))

3. Wanted (I am still hearing more bad reviews from people than good, and I doubt very highly that it will reach $100,000 million this weekend. I say by Sunday, it will be up to $80 million. Hancock will be responsible for dropping Wanted out of the picture. Wall*E will take a big hit too, but I think it has enough to barely Survive. Wanted will not make $150 before it's run is over. I think it's money making days will end with the release of the Dark Knight)

This is all strictly in the US. One thing is for certain, I don't think Wanted will beat Wall*E.

 

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Date Posted: 7/4 6:07pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: WALL*E: $62.5 M; "Wanted": $51.1 Million - Date Edited: 7/4 11:19pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Zaz
Box Office Preview

'Hancock': Box-Office Fireworks Ahead

After a strong Wednesday premiere, Will Smith's superhero flick looks to blow open the record books over the July 4th weekend

By Joshua Rich

"It's Fourth of July weekend, everybody — America's favorite time of year for picnics, fireworks, and Will Smith movies! In case you haven't heard, the Biggest Movie Star in the World's latest release, Hancock, got off to a stellar start on Tuesday evening, banking $6.8 million in preview screenings. And it added another $17.4 mil when it officially opened on Wednesday.

So, yeah, it's a lock for the weekend win. But how big will it be against a slew of super-strong holdovers? And can the expanding kiddie hit Kit Kittredge: An American Girl put a dent in WALL-E's shiny metal body? My predictions are below, and you can register yours in EW.com's Summer Box Office Challenge. Our game may not be as sparkly as a Roman Candle, but it's 10 times the fun.

THE (LIKELY) TOP FIVE

Hancock
Columbia · PG-13 · 3,965 theaters · NEW
Here's the place where I would ordinarily analyze Hancock's plot and discuss why you may or may not go see it this weekend. But why bother? It doesn't matter what Will Smith movies are about, because they all wind up being hits. Science fiction (Independence Day; I, Robot; Men in Black), action-horror (I Am Legend), romantic comedy (Hitch), animation (Shark Tale), thriller (Enemy of the State), even straight drama (The Pursuit of Happyness) — there's no genre in which Smith isn't hugely successful. And, amazingly enough, he seems to be getting more popular as the years go on: Last winter's I Am Legend drew the actor's biggest box-office bow yet ($77.2 mil) and second-best total domestic gross ($256.4 mil). So will Hancock, his first foray into superhero movies, be any different? Aw, hell no! When we combine Smith's current track record, with the fact that the movie is the only major new thing in theaters, with the fact that it grossed $24.4 mil on its first day and a half, with the fact that this is the holiday weekend on which Smith has had so much success in the past (Independence Day and the Men in Black movies all opened mightily around July 4th)...we're looking at a debut for the ages. The film's Friday-to-Sunday numbers may not be as big as Iron Man's $98.6 mil bow earlier this summer (after all, Transformers brought in $70.5 mil on this weekend last year, Hancock's CinemaScore grade from audiences is a good-but-not-great B+, and I suppose it's possible that some folks might actually avoid the multiplex this weekend). But they should be close.
Weekend prediction: $83 million

WALL-E
Walt Disney/Pixar · G · 3,992 theaters · 2nd weekend
Okay, clearly, I have a bit of a man-crush on Will Smith. Ah, well, I bet it's something that most moviegoers can empathize with: Just look at how everybody fell in love with Pixar's cuddly little robot last weekend! That $63.1 mil debut was sweet, indeed, and considering how well the animated flick has been holding on during the week (it has grossed more than $7.5 mil per day), a 33 percent decline on this holiday weekend is all I expect it to face.
Weekend prediction: $42 million

Wanted
Universal · R · 3,185 theaters · 2nd weekend
And then there's Angelina Jolie's R-rated shoot-'em-up, which has also struck gold at the box office. The film's $50.9 mil debut far exceeded expectations, and it remains the only major truly adult action offering in theaters right now.
Weekend prediction: $28 million

Kit Kittredge: An American Girl
Picturehouse · G · 1,843 theaters · 3rd weekend
This live-action children's movie features Academy Award nominee Abigail Breslin as a Depression-era lass, a role modeled on a doll in the American Girl line of toys. Then again, I suppose if you needed me to explain that to you, you're not likely to be seeing this movie. But many others will: The film has been a smash in limited release for the past two weeks (it earned nearly half-a-million bucks in just five venues), and this expansion seems to be a sure thing, financially. The only minor — very minor — caveat is that Kit Kittredge may have a harder time striking it rich in cities that don't have an American Girl Place store. Of course, if the success of movies like Hanna Montana & Miley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds Concert ($65.3 mil) is any indication, that won't matter: Tween girls adore a movie that's made just for them.
Weekend prediction: $13 million

Get Smart
Warner Bros. · PG-13 · 3,574 theaters · 3rd weekend
Steve Carell's spy spoof should clear the $100 mil mark by the end of the weekend, making it the Daily Show alum's third live-action star vehicle — and sixth feature overall, including animated pics and flicks in which he had a supporting role — to do so. Could he be the next Will Smith? (Okay, probably not.)
Weekend prediction: $12 million"


He seems to feel the bad reviews for "Hancock" won't matter, and he may be right.


 

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Date Posted: 7/4 7:20pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: 'Hancock': Box-Office Fireworks Ahead - Date Edited: 7/4 7:30pm (1 edits total) Edited By: mrjop2
I came back from seeing Hancock. This was my most anticipated movie this year, and I hate to say it but I was highly disappointed. I understand why it is not breaking the records it was suppose to. Our theater was virtually empty.

And besides, the official word is that Hancock Wednesday totals were not that strong. They said that the Wednesday night total was disappointing for Sony. It wasn't a terrible opening for Hancock, but most people had higher expectations.

Personally, I think this was the worst summer movie this year for me. Well, I would say Wanted is but I have no interest in seeing that movie. Wall*E still reigns supreme, and being friends with the theater's owner that I go to, they told me that Wall*E is doing slightly better than Hancock. With every showing of Hancock at my theater being virtually empty, I see Sony may lose money on this one.

This weak, I predicted Hancock to make $100 million + easily. I changed that based on results from Tuesday and Wednesday disappointingly turnouts to $80 million by the end of Sunday. Right now, it appears if it makes it that for by this weekend, it will be limping in.

Wall*E, based on stats that I have seen, is set to come close to doubling what they made on opening weekend. if the above prediction is correct, that is a lot less than a 33 % drop. I suspect Wall*E to be in the $50 million by the end of Sunday. Wall*E will reach the $100 million mark this weekend in the US. I don't know what that rounds up to when you add the rest of the world's box office totals to it, but Wall*E is doing much better then everyone seems to think. With it's word of mouth, it has a potential to come close to being one of Pixar's biggest money maker. (Of course with all the times I've seen the movie, 6, I could be considered Pixar's best friend LOL). I just think Wall*E is going to do better than everyone is saying.

Sorry Hancock fans, I just didn't care for the movie and all the fowl language in it. The only laughs I really got was from the scenes that they've shown on the previews. Other than that, the few of us there were on this 4th of July showing were pretty much silent.

 

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Date Posted: 7/5 10:00am Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: 'Hancock': Box-Office Fireworks Ahead - Date Edited: 7/5 10:01am (1 edits total) Edited By: Princess_Tina
It's far from being a turkey, but it is definitely underperforming compared to other WS movies and even Wall-E, according to Variety:


Box office fireworks for 'Hancock'
Will Smith, Sony film nets $17.1 million Thursday
By STUART OLDHAM

Despite being poorly reviewed, Will Smith and 'Hanock' reigned again at the box office Thursday, netting $17.1 million from 3,965 theatres, down 2% from Wednesday ($17.4 million).

The Sony/Columbia tentpole has earned $41.3 million to date and is poised to surpass the $100 million domestic mark by Sunday.

Still, the 'Hancock' figures aren't 'super' compared to other Will Smith openings and with the recent box office success of 'Wall-E,' Sony is expecting smaller Fourth of July numbers than originally projected.


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988494.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

 

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Date Posted: 7/5 11:30am Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: 'Hancock': Box-Office Fireworks Ahead - Date Edited: 7/5 11:41am (1 edits total) Edited By: mrjop2
Let me see, $17 Million on Thursday, and Firday I would say it made about $12 million. At $41 million before the weekend. If the percentages keep on dropping, i don't think $100 million on opening week is possible, but we'll see.

Wall*E is getting close to doubling what it made last week, so I don't understand how it can be under performing. The As of thursday, it's offical gross income in the US was $86 Million according to Yahoo Summer Movie Guide. If it keeps it's current statistics from what I've seen, seats are stilling. Let me geuss on the low side. Let's say if it makes only $10 million on each of the remaining days of the week. That would be nearing $120 million, double what it made on opening weekend.

Granted it is a whole week instead of 3 days, but That's not under performing. I don't know of many movies that have doubled what they made on opening weekend so quickly.

Hancock is a given first at this rate. Wanted may be lucky for a third place finish this week. Wall*E is a given second, but I'm sticking to my story: Wall*E is going to easily pass the $150 million mark before it's theatrical run ends. My guess is still $175 million, and with it having pretty much that highest fan rating according to Fandango, the word of mouth could last for another week or two.

 

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Date Posted: 7/5 12:34pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: 'Hancock': Box-Office Fireworks Ahead
Grrr, I ran out of time to edit about the post.

Here is the official box office totals ending after July 4th This information can be seen here at: http://www.movieweb.com/movies/boxoffice/daily/.

1. Hancock (Total $59.8 million, Has made $17 million on Wednesday and Thursday, and $18.5 million yesterday)Prediction: it will make $80 by Sunday. At this rate, that may be a little low.

2. Wall*E (Total $103.6 million, This weeks daily totals: July 1: $7.6 million, July 2: $6.7 million, July 3: $8.3 million, July 4: $9 million) Original prediction for opening weekend: $70 Million We can expect $10 million for today and $10 million for for Sunday. This movie is doubling what it made from opening weekend in it's second weekend. Also of note, Wall*E had the third biggest opening weekend in Pixar's history beaten only by Finding Nemo and The Incredibles

3. Wanted (Total $75.5 Million, This weeks daily totals: July 1: $4.6 Million, July 2: $3.6 Million, July 3: $4.6 million, July 4: $5.4 million)Original Prediction for opening weekend: $40 Million. This movie will remain in third this weekend but it's dead in the water already. It won't make $100 million in the US at all.

I was dead right about Wall*E though! It has a potential of becoming Pixars biggest money makers. Anyone who says Wall*E is under performing, the numbers don't lie. Wall*E rules!

 

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Date Posted: 7/5 3:19pm Subject: RE: The Box Office Thread: 'Hancock': Box-Office Fireworks Ahead
I'm not ready to count Wanted out yet- I think it'll hang in longer than people expect, cause I've spoken to a lot of people who say they really want to see it, especially after practically everyone they talk to who has seen telling them they have to see it. I haven't spoken to a single person off the web that hasn't raved about it, so I think you're going to see a positive result from that. Iron Man's the only movie that I've experienced similar reactions to from people- and though Wanted is obviously not as great afilm as IM, nor will do anywhere near the same buisness, that does strike me as a notable factor. It could take advantage of the brief post-Hancock/pre-Dark Knight period quite well.

 

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