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Reynar_Tedros
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Jul '06
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Date Posted:
2/25 4:13pm
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RE: The Oscar Race: We Have a Winner of the Oscar Contest
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Leto II posted:
...and no awards to make you woof your cookies all over the screen.
I disagree. Tilda Swinton, in no way, shape, or form, deserved that Oscar. No ******* way. Michael Clayton featured some of the worst overacting of all-time.
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dp4m
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Date Posted:
2/25 10:29pm
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RE: The Oscar Race: We Have a Winner of the Oscar Contest
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Leto II posted:
Pretty much, yup.  I use multiple aliases over there, due to certain...reasons...going back a couple years.
I'm totally gonna rat you out to Jeff! (I miss it these days; he never quotes me any more  ) as well as MiraJeff and Moriarty who also both post there! 
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Zaz
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Oct '98
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Date Posted:
2/26 8:40am
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RE: The Oscar Race: We Have a Winner of the Oscar Contest
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How Oscar Could Improve It's Ratings
My suggestions:
a. montage-free zone;
b. no musical numbers
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JediPrettyBoy
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2/26 11:06am
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RE: The Oscar Race: How to Increase the Ratings of the Oscar Show
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Zaz posted:
How Oscar Could Improve It's Ratings
My suggestions:
a. montage-free zone;
b. no musical numbers
One of the real and main problems is that, many times, those in the Academy have gotten away from the notion that movies can just tell a great, and even, fun story. Some of these pseudo-intellectual types think that it is beneath the Academy to have a summer or holiday blockbuster nominated for Best Picture; even if it is a deserved nomination. Don't get me wrong, many blockbusters are total crap which appeal only to the other extreme in our culture -- those with very little thinking power at all. However, what would have been so bad to have, say, Batman Begins nominated for Best Picture back in 2006. The vast majority of critics and the public agreed that the film was fantastic. I even think it wouldn't hurt to recognize people like Michael Caine and/or Morgan Freeman for Best Supporting Actor in a film like that. Unfortunately, it has gotten to the point that as soon as a film carries the title of being a blockbuster, it is usually dismissed as having no chance for some of the more well known nominations. What happened to films like Star Wars, Jaws, Jurassic Park, etc being nominated for Best Picture? What happened to nominating seasoned actors like Alec Guiness was for Star Wars?
I was very impressed that they nominated Depp for the POTC 1, but disappointed that they ignored Rush for his amazing job as Barbossa. They need more variety in each category so that they appeal to audience members who want realism in the films they watch; without neglecting those who want fantasy.
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Lord_NoONE
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Dec '01
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Date Posted:
2/26 12:39pm
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RE: The Oscar Race: How to Increase the Ratings of the Oscar Show
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Well, to its credit, the Academy did show repeated love to the LotR trilogy. You can't argue with the accolades RotK received, even though Cold Mountain was a far better film than RotK.
Ian McKellan got a nod for Gandalf in FotR; the films were constantly nominated in several categories, and I think each film was nominated for Best Picture. Overall, fantasy has been shown substantial love recently. I agree that BB should have gotten some sort of recognition since the film is solid on so many fronts...but there were some better films that year, imo.
As to how to improve the Oscars:
1. I agree with Zaz, no musical numbers.
2. Less cheesy time-fillers, ala Seth Rogan.
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Chancellor_Ewok
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Nov '04
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2/26 12:56pm
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Lord_NoONE posted:
Well, to its credit, the Academy did show repeated love to the LotR trilogy. You can't argue with the accolades RotK received, even though Cold Mountain was a far better film than RotK.
To its disredit, however, the Academy utterly Ep.III. 
I agree with Jedi Pretty Boy. Just because a movie is financially successful, shouldn't eliminate it from Oscar consideration. After all, isn't that how Hollywood measures a film's success, through ticket sales, and therefore, asses in seats?
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Coruscant
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2/26 12:59pm
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Face it, if the Oscars want higher ratings, they have to have a serious populist contender in the Best Picture category, ala TITANIC and RETURN OF THE KING.
Gil Cates can try all manner of things, but everyone one of those small efforts would be dwarfed tenfold by the above solution.
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Chancellor_Ewok
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Coruscant posted:
Face it, if the Oscars want higher ratings, they have to have a serious populist contender in the Best Picture category, ala TITANIC and RETURN OF THE KING.
Agreed. Or if its not Best Picture material, but clearly strong in other areas, nominate it for those awards and actaully let it win. Again, Ep.III is a good example. It wasn't Best Picture material, but it easily could have taken home 5 or 6 awards in the technical categories, if given the opportunity.
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Hammurabi
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2/26 5:53pm
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Chancellor_Ewok posted:
To its disredit, however, the Academy utterly Ep.III.
Compared to the other prequels, RotS was great. Compared to most films, though, it was mediocre.
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Chancellor_Ewok
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2/26 6:14pm
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Hammurabi posted:
Chancellor_Ewok posted:
To its disredit, however, the Academy utterly Ep.III.
Compared to the other prequels, RotS was great. Compared to most films, though, it was mediocre.
Yes and no. In terms of some of the acting, ie Natalie Portman, yes it was somewhat mediocre, however, from a technical standpoint, Ep.III is an undeniably impressive film that more than holds its own against the films that were actually nominated in the technical categories.
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Jango10
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Date Posted:
2/26 7:49pm
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RE: The Oscar Race: How to Increase the Ratings of the Oscar Show
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Exactly what others have said. Nominate movies that people actually have seen. Also, nominated for the Best Picture of the Year, not just Best Picture of the last Two Months.
(Although I am kinda contradicting my self since The Departed came out in October and Crash came out in May.)
But for the most part, the Oscars go to films that hardly anyone sees and hardly anyone cares about. Three movies that a very good case could have been made for Best Picture this year that were also mainstream films:
1. The Bourne Ultimatum - According to Rotten Tomatoes, this is the second best reviewed (if I remember right)film of the year.
2. Ratatouille - Just think how much buzz that would have caused if an animated film would have gotten nominated for Best Picture. (It was also the best reviewed film of the year, according to RT.)
3. American Gangster - Yet another mainstream film that recieved good reviews.
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Lord_NoOne posted:
You can't argue with the accolades RotK received, even though Cold Mountain was a far better film than RotK.
Cold Mountain sucks!
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I liked American Gangster, but it wasn't good enough to be nominated for Best Picture, let alone win it. Then again, neither was Michael Clayton.
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JohnWesleyDowney
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2/26 9:11pm
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Just add a lot of Jessica Alba in a low cut gown to the show and the ratings, along with other things, will inevitably rise.
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon
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I wish they would rename 'Best Picture' to something more accurate like, "Most important sociopolitical statement made by a non-fiction film that no one under 13 can really enjoy"
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The2ndQuest
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2/26 9:16pm
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Once they created the Best Animated Film category, they essentially killed any chance of an animated film ever winning Best Picture.
Jango10 posted:
Exactly what others have said. Nominate movies that people actually have seen. Also, nominated for the Best Picture of the Year, not just Best Picture of the last Two Months. But for the most part, the Oscars go to films that hardly anyone sees and hardly anyone cares about.
But is it really an honest response to not nominate a great movie just because few people saw it?
And they do nominate picture of the year- it's just that studios intentionally place most oscar-calibe movies in the fall-to-winter timeslot so they're fresher in voters' minds when it comes time to vote for the awards. Additionally, it's easier for movies that do win or get nominated for an Oscar to take advantage of the added level of visibility from being such at the box office. Finally, heavier drama material aimed at oscar gold usually does better in the fall/winter, when there's less competition from major blockbusters that they'd normally get lost in the mix of,while still being a more prime moviegoing season to get decent returns.
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