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Kyptastic Title: Manager Emeritus SWD Co-Commish Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 5/7/06 3:07pm Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	Yes, in Tintin in America he actually writes a story. Broken Ear he goes and asks questions like a reporter, but it ends up turning into another adventure. -----signature----- "It is your choice," Saba said ."This one does not think it will interfere with our peace deal. We have plenty of Moffz. Blast two." Valar Morghulis
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darkmole Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/8/06 7:00am Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	The Castiafore Emerald is a real grower - I didn't like it for years but as I've got older I appreciate its subtleties and its sense of humour more and more. If you dig around the net you might come across one of the unofficial versions of Herge's last, unfinished story Tintin and Alph-Art which really highlight how good a story it was shaping up to be.
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 5/8/06 7:11am Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	Tintin and Alph-Art? Is that the title?
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JediTrilobite Registered: Nov '99	Date Posted: 5/8/06 9:21am Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	Yeah, it's one of the unfinished stories that he got to before he died, leaving it unfinished. -----signature----- Ever wonder what happened during the clone wars? Visit: http://www.theclonewarz.net My Blogs: http://www.jeditrilobite.com , http://tk3220.wordpress.com TK-3220, NEG VT Rep
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darkmole Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 5/8/06 9:49am Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin - Date Edited: 5/8/06 9:51am (2 edits total) Edited By: darkmole
	There is an official release of Tintin and Alph-Art which has Herge's black-and-white pencil sketches printed alongside his script. Herge didn't want anyone to take over from him after his death so the story remains unfinished, but some fans have taken his sketches and turned them into unofficial albums with full colour strips etc. Fittingly, Herge left the script on a cliff-hanger, with Tintin apparently about to be killed, so one way of looking at it is that Tintin dies at the end of the series ... You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_and_Alph-Ar t
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JediTrilobite Registered: Nov '99	Date Posted: 5/8/06 10:36am Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	I actually saw the book while in London, but I didn't get a chance to read it. Plus, there's a Tintin store in London. -----signature----- Ever wonder what happened during the clone wars? Visit: http://www.theclonewarz.net My Blogs: http://www.jeditrilobite.com , http://tk3220.wordpress.com TK-3220, NEG VT Rep
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 5/8/06 12:33pm Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	That is a very interesting account of it. Too bad he didn't finish it--though it appears he was bored with Tintin.
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JediTrilobite Registered: Nov '99	Date Posted: 5/8/06 1:58pm Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	Well, he died before he finished it, not because he was bored of Tintin. -----signature----- Ever wonder what happened during the clone wars? Visit: http://www.theclonewarz.net My Blogs: http://www.jeditrilobite.com , http://tk3220.wordpress.com TK-3220, NEG VT Rep
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 5/8/06 2:05pm Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	It had been taking him longer and longer to crank out the albums, but I don't think he was really tired, just well, old and not having to rush for deadlines anymore. Soviets is pretty bizarre. Congo is no better. Tintin in America is somewhat better, but still hackneyed. I believe he works on a story in Congo as well. And, yes, Haddock is much more of a heavy when he's introduced or at least a dangerous buffon. Best bit: hitting Tintin over the head with a bottle because he wants to fly the plane (!!). That's heavy. But then, most allies were introduced as heavies: Alcazar, the Thompsons, Skut . . . and the villians were often introduced as friends! -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 5/13/06 8:30am Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin - Date Edited: 9/3/08 12:32pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Zaz
	Read the first one: "Tintin in the Land of the Soviets" A first: Tintin actually writes a story. It's in black and white, and has a heavier, more designer art deco style. Like "The Blue Lotus", you can tell it was a daily strip: crisis/cliffhanger every three cels or so. So the story appears to be repetitive, and it sure lacks pace. There is more politics than usual. Tintin is a violent blowhard. He's always beating the out of various people. There are 159 close shaves. (He's executed, crashes, is hit by a train, etc.) But I recognized Snowy.
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JediTrilobite Registered: Nov '99	Date Posted: 5/13/06 11:36am Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	Tintin's often seen as working on a paper at some point. Land of the Black Gold, we see him interviewing a CEO of a gas company about the crisis. He also acts like a reporter in a number of other things, asking questions, and slowly gets drawn into the mysteries. I haven't read the Congo or Soviet stories, but I hear that they're fairly racist, something that changed in later books. -----signature----- Ever wonder what happened during the clone wars? Visit: http://www.theclonewarz.net My Blogs: http://www.jeditrilobite.com , http://tk3220.wordpress.com TK-3220, NEG VT Rep
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TheBoogieMan Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 5/15/06 2:31am Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	Rogue1-and-a-half posted: But then, most allies were introduced as heavies: Alcazar, the Thompsons, Skut . . . and the villians were often introduced as friends! Indeed, that is the patented Rogue-Boogie analysis of the series. Rogue-Boogie? What was I thinking?
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 5/15/06 12:19pm Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	I wouldn't know. I didn't see much racism in "Tintin in the Land of the Soviets" but there was plenty of anti-Bolshevism. Since I basically agree with this sentiment, given what happened to Russia over 70 years, I wasn't offended.
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JediTrilobite Registered: Nov '99	Date Posted: 5/15/06 1:22pm Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	I believe that the Congo story is the more racial one. I believe that it more reflects the attitude of the time, not so much the author's postition on the issue. -----signature----- Ever wonder what happened during the clone wars? Visit: http://www.theclonewarz.net My Blogs: http://www.jeditrilobite.com , http://tk3220.wordpress.com TK-3220, NEG VT Rep
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 5/15/06 8:30pm Subject: RE: The Adventures of Tintin
	Yes, I failed to give co-author credit to my esteemed colleague on the 'allies introduced as heavies' theory. We'll be presenting at a conference in Melbourne in a few weeks! Wish us luck! Even in Congo, Herge was being a little satirical. Best bit: Tintin goes into teach a group of African children about 'their country.' Cue huge map of Belgium. I died laughing. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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