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The Adventures of Tintin: "Tintin" is Non-PC
Zaz
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Date Posted:
5/24/06 10:30pm
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
Read "Tintin in America". (Wasn't able to get "Tintin in the Congo" on which are no less than 14 damn holds ahead of me)
It's better than "Tintin Among the Soviets", but it still isn't very good. Herge trots out a jumble of cliches based on what appears to be gangster movies and Westerns (they make a weird combo). Tintin is less of a jerk, but he still has one narrow escape per page. There is one pointed and accurate joke: what happens after oil is discovered on Indian land. (The army comes in and takes the land after the Indians refuse to sell it. Come to think of it, it's not a joke.
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The villians are kind of generic, and Tintin could use more of a sidekick.
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TheBoogieMan
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Date Posted:
5/25/06 1:54am
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
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…and Tintin could use more of a sidekick.
I think he heard you, Zaz.
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Zaz
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5/25/06 12:01pm
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
The art is closer to the standard Tintin, but he's still sort of a Belgian superman, a notion I find...well...funny. But Snowy's great.
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5/25/06 6:58pm
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
Tintin in America is also one of the earlier books - the later ones get much better in story and artwork.
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Zaz
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6/2/06 5:43pm
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
Read "Explorers on the Moon". Another good one. Herge obviously enjoyed doing it.
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It's amazing that he precipitated not only the general look of the moon, but the eventual discovery of ice on it.
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Rogue1-and-a-half
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
I was less crazy about Explorers than most. Oddly, I found it to be far inferior to Destination Moon. Only Herge could make more humor, suspense and fun out of getting ready to go to the moon than in actually going.
The ice thing is a particularly interesting bit as are the images of earth from space. He pretty well nailed it, though purists say he botched the cloud cover. I say the purists need to get lives.
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I'd like to see the purists get it right.
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Zaz
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6/10/06 11:13am
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
Next: Read "Prisoners of the Sun".
It seems to be my fate to read the second half of the duologies first...except for the "Moon" one.
This was good enough (great train crash), but I gather the first half and some of the plot explanation was in "The Seven Crystal Balls", which I have not yet read.
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Kyptastic
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
Prisoners of the sun is another bookk that shows Herge's evolution from racist towards a more accepting one. The most cruel people in the story are europeans. The Inca's, whilst they can be eperceived as cruel are shown as honorable people protecting their traditions.
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6/10/06 9:31pm
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
The aformentioned train crash is terrific. It's actually the opening scene for the credits of the TV series.
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Zaz
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6/11/06 11:59am
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
And again, I read the second half of a duology first...in this case "Red Rackham's Treasure". The first half was "The Secret of the Unicorn". It's good, and I particularly liked Calculus and the resolution.
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TheBoogieMan
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6/11/06 10:19pm
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
I did the same there, actually. I read 'Red Rackham's Treasure' long before I got my hands on 'Unicorn'. Both great books. Probably my favourite duology.
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Kyptastic
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
I liked the Secrets of the Unicorn/Red Rackhams Treasure duology because it really fleshed out the character of Captain Haddock - in Shooting Star he really didn't have that great a role IMO - as well as for introducing Calculus. The scene at the end with the reporter is great.
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Zaz
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6/18/06 12:53pm
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RE: The Adventures of Tintin
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Just read "Tintin and the Picaros".
This was the last complete Tintin, and it's a bit tired. Back to South America
again
, and frankly, it's once too many. Even Tintin thinks so; at first, he refuses to go. Refuses! And his knickbockers are replaced by jeans; just no to that.
Even so, Herge is ahead of his time. He imagines a terrorist band trying to dislodge the current government of San Theodoros, but having no real effect on the people's lives (and he makes the point economically). There's some good comedy: especially Alcazar's shrewish wife.
But you get the feeling Herge recycled South America so he wouldn't have the bother of new research. So no Australia, Antarctica, Scandanavia, the rest of N. America, the Pacific, etc. Too bad.
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