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king_alvarez
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RE: History vs Movie: Now Disc. Most Historically Inaccurate Movies: "Shakespeare in Love"
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I assumed the movie was mostly untrue and enjoyed it immensely. I'd much rather watch an interesting historical fiction movie rather than a boring actual historical account.
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Zaz
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5/14 2:44pm
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RE: History vs Movie: Now Disc. Most Historically Inaccurate Movies: "Shakespeare in Love"
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You can't really say what happened, since little is known of Shakespeare's life. So it is amusing, I think.
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Drac39
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Next to nothing is known about Shakespeare other than documents or contracts.
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Zaz
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RE: History vs Movie: Now Disc. Most Historically Inaccurate Movies: "Shakespeare in Love"
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The 'it-was-really-the-Earl-of-Oxford' argument give all sorts of reasons he would pretend not to be a genius. Yes, that *does* make sense.
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Zaz
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RE: History vs Movie: Now Disc. Most Historically Inaccurate Movies: "Shakespeare in Love"
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#2.Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2003)
"The Flick: A High-Classical epic of the Qing Dynasty, detailing the lives of those who are touched by the legendary blade known as "The Green Destiny" and their ability to speak in a fantastical space-language.
The Inaccuracies: You will be happy to learn that the Chinese cannot fly, despite what you have seen in every single martial arts movie made in the last 15 years. Their Chi, though powerful, has not yet granted them the magical abilities they so desperately desire, which is thankful-for that barrier is all that stands between us and the "United States of Beijing."
Why It Would Have Sucked Otherwise: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon has enough exposition, slow dialogue, meditative reflection on the transience of life and forced reading as it is. If we didn't get a flying side-kick now and then, we probably wouldn't have made it 15 minutes in."
I don't know that this film pretended to be historical; it's an obvious (and entertaining) fantasy.
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5/15 12:39pm
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RE: History vs Movie: Now Disc. Most Historically Inaccurate Movies: "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
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That was my initial thought too. This movie was a thoroughly entertaining fantasy yarn. I never took it to be a historical exposition on the ancient Chinese.
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Vortigern99
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5/15 12:51pm
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RE: History vs Movie: Now Disc. Most Historically Inaccurate Movies: "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
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Yes, the fact that the Chinese cannot fly does not exactly come as a revelation. Nor do I think the filmmakers want to convince us that a petite young lady can thrash a dozen-plus kung fu warriors within an inch of their lives -- and destroy an entire tavern in the process. Declaiming this film as "historically inaccurate" is akin to telling us that Star Wars didn't actually happen a long, long time ago.
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Yep...pure escapism and not historical fiction like The Killer Angels or some such.
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DarthBoba
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You will be happy to learn that the Chinese cannot fly, despite what you have seen in every single martial arts movie made in the last 15 years.
-That got an appreciative snort from me 
But yeah, wth? I think I knew from the get-go that Chow-Yun Fat probably can't balance on a 3/4" tree limb while swordfighting.
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RE: History vs Movie: Now Disc. Most Historically Inaccurate Movies: "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
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Chinese can't fly or dance across tree leaves? Well, there goes my reasons for visiting the country...
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It's a tremendous film, inaccurate or not, and should have won Best Picture. Far superior to Gladiator.
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rumsmuggler
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CTHD is a fantasy, so i wasn't expected historical accuracy by any means.
You will be happy to learn that the Chinese cannot fly, despite what you have seen in every single martial arts movie made in the last 15 years.
That was funny.
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Spiderfan
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To me this falls into the same category as 300, where criticizing it for intentionally deviating from history as was the author's design...well honestly thats just silly.
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RE: History vs Movie: Now Disc. Most Historically Inaccurate Movies: "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
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Not as silly as the next one, in which the movie is criticized for not being accurate when it is made before the year it is set. And that movie is, of course:
"#1.2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
The Flick: An evil computer based on the IBM Corp. tries to stop mankind from reaching our goal of a manned flight to Jupiter, but ends up singing like a little schoolgirl instead. Score one for the giant space baby!
The Inaccuracies: In case you hadn't noticed, Arthur C. Clarke's vision of a millennial dawn in which we are masters of our solar system was a bit optimistic. And though we may fear death at the hands of a computerized master, odds are more on Google or a creepy Japanese baby robot than anything IBM could cook up.
Why It Would Have Sucked Otherwise: Because a movie true to the events of 2001 would have been about Super Bowl XXXV (a 34-7 snooze-fest), the release of the Planet of the Apes remake and the Spice Girls breaking up. Oh, and Mir, the world's most advanced piece of space technology, falling to Earth in a fiery blaze and crashing into the sea."
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Vortigern99
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Funny how he doesn't mention September 11.
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