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Champion of the Force Registered: Dec '99	Date Posted: 5/19 3:22am Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	I remember seeing this film on TV years ago (in fact, it may have been the very first Robert Redford film I'd ever seen). Don't remember much about it except that a) it was about baseball, and b) it bored me to death. -----signature----- Without my ignorance your knowledge would be useless.
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Drew_Atreides Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 5/19 6:03am Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	I have tried watching "The Natural" a couple of times, but i just can't get into.. It is a bizarre, semi-surrealistic tail that i keep thinking i'll like, but something about it's pace is just abysmally dull... -----signature----- Be sure to tune in for the Big Giveaway at 9!
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 5/19 6:38am Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984) - Date Edited: 5/19 6:54am (2 edits total) Edited By: Zaz
	Lots of talent in the cast and crew but Redford + sports movies = mysticism. (see: "Bagger Vance", which Redford directed and which wasted Damon and Smith). This needs great care in the rendering, and perhaps here it got too much care and not enough inspiration. Redford is notorious for micro-managing the movies he's in, so I'm inclined to blame him, which may or may not be fair. I have read the book, which I didn't like, either; maybe I just have any affinity for Malamud.
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soitscometothis Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 5/19 12:46pm Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	I've actually enjoyed The Natural both times I've seen it. I thought it was interesting to portray such a mundane subject in such a mythic style. But I'm weird. -----signature----- I am not an eel popsicle. Art: http://boards.theforce.net/Fan_Art/b10020/17816752/?21 Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 5/19 2:20pm Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	I have not seen this film, but I do love Randy Newman's score; it is probably the least ironic thing he's ever produced, which is just really something right there. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Reynar_Tedros Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 5/19 10:01pm Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	Um, yeah, The Natural is awesome. -----signature----- Now playing: Forza Motorsport 3, inFamous, Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City Waiting on: Heavy Rain, Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect 2, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Max Payne 3
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madman007 Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 5/20 6:23am Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	I thought I would be yelled at when I voiced my hatred of The Natural, but apparently there are others who feel the same way. As a baseball fan, The Natural has the most tired cliches of baseball movies. The slow motion last pitch that always ends up a homerun. I have also read the book, which is about missed chances and regret. Hollywood took the story and turned it into something it's not. It is so unrealistic in baseball terms too. If you want a movie that brings out the true feeling of baseball...two words: BULL. DURHAM! -----signature----- "Progress is not possible without deviation from the norm." - Frank Zappa Traits Of Descent is complete! Read it all from the beginning! http://boards.theforce.net/Boards/Message.aspx?topic=28968173&brd=10476&start=29053268
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Reynar_Tedros Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 5/20 9:25am Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	madman007 posted: If you want a movie that brings out the true feeling of baseball...three words: FIELD. OF. DREAMS! Fixed. -----signature----- Now playing: Forza Motorsport 3, inFamous, Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City Waiting on: Heavy Rain, Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect 2, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Max Payne 3
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Drew_Atreides Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 5/20 11:12am Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	Field of Dreams is good, but i have to agree that Bull Durham is probably the movie that most captures what baseball is all about. -----signature----- Be sure to tune in for the Big Giveaway at 9!
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madman007 Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 5/20 1:23pm Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	And don't get me wrong, Field Of Dreams is my all time favorite movie, but it is not entirely about baseball. It uses baseball as a metaphor for past regrets and taking new chances. Bull Durham gives you a taste of what life is like on a minor leaque baseball team and has more about the game itself. And call me crazy, but I liked Costner's trifecta of baseball movies, For Love Of the Game. I loved how they showed how he focused in on the hitter on the mound by "shutting down the mechanism" and all was silent. That's just how it is in pitching. -----signature----- "Progress is not possible without deviation from the norm." - Frank Zappa Traits Of Descent is complete! Read it all from the beginning! http://boards.theforce.net/Boards/Message.aspx?topic=28968173&brd=10476&start=29053268
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 5/20 3:56pm Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	I didn't much care for Bull Durham. Field of Dreams is absolutely astoundingly great. Durham is seedy and neo-realist in a coked up kind of way; Field of Dreams is mystical and soaring. I suppose how you feel about baseball may be an indicator of which of the movies you like better. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 5/20 9:57pm Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Natural" (1984)
	Next: "The Breakfast Club" (1984) USA, 92 mins. Colour Director: John Hughes Producer: John Hughes, Ned Tannen, Michelle Manning Screenplay: John Hughes Photography: Thomas Del Ruth Music: Gary Chang, Wang Chung, Keith Forsey Cast: Emilio Estavez, Anthony Michael Hall, Judd Nelson, Molly Ringwald, Ally Sheedy Five teenagers--of various stripes--are sentenced to a Saturday detention together. They are various cliches: the jock, the rebel (!), the princess, the Goth, and the nerd.
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timmoishere Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 5/20 10:46pm Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Breakfast Club" (1984)
	Best teen movie ever. -----signature----- Will do moose stuff for money. Everything tastes better wrapped in bacon, especially bacon 11/20/2008: The day I married the most wonderful woman in the world.
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 5/21 2:26pm Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Breakfast Club" (1984)
	It's pretty good; I rather wish they hadn't all paired off (except the geek! how too, too brutal) at the end, but the film is pretty sharp and it holds up well, I think. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Merlin_Ambrosius69 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 5/21 2:43pm Subject: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: Now Disc. "The Breakfast Club" (1984)
	An amusing behind-the-scenes detail of this movie is that Judd Nelson basically took the role of John Bender over and made it his own, against writer director Hughes' initial wishes. At one point, Hughes approached Nelson and asked him "What the he// are you doing?", to which Nelson replied he was going to play the character his way (far more intelligently, wittily, sharply than Hughes had imagined), and if Hughes didn't like it he could take him off the film. Hughes relented, and Nelson of course made an indelible impression with one of the great character roles of the 80s. My only problem with the film is that it doesn't represent the average, non-click person, which is the group that most students actually fall into rather than the jock/rebel/nerd/etc. cliches. But that's a minor gripe, since the film is about those clicks. And we do see them straddle the lines, so to speak, especially "basket case" Ally Sheedy, who becomes a "normal" person by film's end. -----signature----- "Chance makes playthings of us all." -- Seneca Shameless non-Manager Emeritus sock of Vortigern99. Fan of George RR Martin, JK Rowling and JRR Tolkien.
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