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Author	Topic: The Essentials: Hamlet/Hand of God/Happy Man/Hard Day's Night
TheBoogieMan Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 11/4/06 8:15pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot
	Well, Forty Licks does contain new material, doesn't it? That could be a good argument for including it. All that aside, I love the Four Seasons, and thoroughly applaud its inclusion.
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 11/4/06 8:19pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot
	Sometimes, the restructuring of songs on a greatest hits collection flows so well, it has to be included . . . this isn't the first and it won't be the last greatest hits on this list. Feel free to disagree (and you're certainly right about the Stones' albums pretty well all being essentials), but I feel that a greatest hits album is just that: an album. And, as an album, it can be great or mediocre. And Forty Licks is great. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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General Kenobi Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Dec '98	Date Posted: 11/4/06 8:55pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot - Date Edited: 11/4/06 8:55pm (1 edits total) Edited By: General Kenobi
	Most of the material on greatest hits releases isn't original, no matter how well it flows. For artists that are mainly 'singles' artists, I suppose that doesn't matter much, but you lose much of the context of the original album. And it's not like Walt Whitman reworking Leaves Of Grass so many times. Well, ok, Sting might be an example of a musician who revamps his songs, but you get what I mean. I'm not opposed to greatest hits on a list like this to be comprehensive. I just want the originals included too. Some great albums exist as a singular work in the context of the time they were released.
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 11/6/06 2:46pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot
	Oh, yeah, the original albums will definitely be showing up as well. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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DAR Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/6/06 4:03pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot
	Fox Trot (1988 - ?) - Bill Amend -I just bought the most recent collection. The only comic strip I take the time to read everyday. -----signature----- Currently Reading: Wolverine:Old Man Logan Packers prediction 12-4 Actual 4-3
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JediNemesis Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 11/7/06 3:49am Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot
	Rogue1-and-a-half posted: Forbidden Planet (1956) - Fred Wilcox Leslie Nielson and Walter Pidgeon seem to be battling for who can be the most self-righteously serious, but the film takes flight around them. The burbling electronic score (the first fully electronic score in film history), the invisible monster, the final revelation of the monster's identity, that flaming door, ripped off countless times . . . and, yeah, let's be honest . . . those miniskirts. One of the finest sci-fi films ever made. And can we drop all those comparisons to The Tempest please? Okay, that one brought me out of lurkdom. I'm pretty sure that 'all those comparisons to The Tempest' were deliberate. Even if they're not, it's pointless to ignore them since there's so much material there; so much, in fact that the movie sort-of spawned a mutant sequel-remake-musical version, Return to the Forbidden Planet (first staged: 1980) which picks up the Shakespearean echoes and runs with them. It's usually billed as 'Shakespeare's Forgotten Rock'n'Roll Masterpiece'. Says it all really Awesome, awesome show. RttFP website Forty Licks: my dad's copy of this was what got me into the Stones. I'm not even sure I've heard any of their original albums all the way through, but the tracks on this collection are uniformly great. Personal favourites are Angie, Ruby Tuesday, She's A Rainbow, Stealing My Heart . . . I'm going to end up listing the whole thing . . . Mother's Little Helper, Have You Seen Your Mother Baby?, Anybody Seen My Baby? etc etc I need to post here more often -----signature----- BeTS Best Author '08 NEW Bad Dreams - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29893091 Eleven Summers - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29657584 Into The Shining Day - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29224914
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 11/7/06 5:50pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot
	I thought the Tempest comparisons were pretty weak, actually . . . The Id and Robby are meant to stand in for Caliban and Ariel, I got that, but really neither one is really at all like either of the others . . . if you follow that. About the only real comparisons: ship crashes; wise old man; hot daughter. What have I missed? -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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JediNemesis Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 11/8/06 3:53am Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot
	How much do you want? No, I just think there's no point in discounting Tempest comparisons completely, because the characters and situation do match up . . . at least to start with. (Going on my own impressions here - and I've only seen the first half of the movie, which doesn't help.) On the other hand, I'm immensely biased. ReturnTTFP is saturated in Shakespeare, and I grew up with that musical. I suspect I'm retroactively reading things into FP that may not be there -----signature----- BeTS Best Author '08 NEW Bad Dreams - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29893091 Eleven Summers - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29657584 Into The Shining Day - http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/29224914
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 11/13/06 7:23pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot
	Frasier (1993 - 2004) - David Angell/David Lee/Peter Casey Though it certainly lost steam late in its run, at its best this was the funniest and the smartest show on television. It manages to utterly eclipse it's original, Cheers, as Kelsey Grammer comes into his own, perfectly cast as the dilettantish and priggish Frasier Crane. Spoofing on psychiatry, art, literature, music, family, gender relations, marriage, everything under the sun. David Hyde Pierce was a revelation as Niles Crane, the always excellent John Mahoney was a hoot and Jane Leeves was a pure joy as the flabbergasted Daphne Moon. Managing to balance extreme slapstick ("I feel hot. And foamy.") with intelligent jokes about opera and literature, managing to balance extreme hilarity with quieter moments of real emotion, the show was a masterpiece for sure. Forever stands as one of television's crowning achievements. Frankenstein (1818) - Mary Shelley A nightmarish walk on the wild side, in the darkness of a young girl's fevered brain. The story is diferent than you know if you've only seen the movie; it resonates deeply and it's somehow a deeply sickening novel. Frankenstein (1931) - James Whale Changes almost every detail of the original novel, but when you have Whale's striking atmospheric visuals and the scenery chewing "It's alive, It's alive," Clive opposite the poignant and tragic Karloff, you forget all the flaws. Still gripping; still entertaining. Frankenstein (1994) - Kenneth Branagh Routinely bashed, but it certainly returned horror to the story again; hewing closer to the novel, though still taking liberties, Branagh's fearless performance as the title character anchors the film firmly in the sickness of one man's mind. De Niro is stupidly miscast as the creature, but, if the strenght of the earlier film was Karloff making the monster human, the strength of this one is Branagh making the human monstrous. It's a film about obsession, about terror and horror, grief and the utter blackness of the human soul. A fascinating companion piece. Freaky Friday (2003) - Mark Waters Forget the original; a formulaic comedy with only sporadic laughs. But this film gives Curtis the chance to really show off again and she's a hoot; even Lohan isn't that bad. It's a very witty film, much more so than it really needed to be. Hilarious and quite winning. Don't look at me like that; I was as shocked as anyone. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Django211 Registered: Mar '99	Date Posted: 11/13/06 7:36pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: 40 Licks/49th Parallel/The Fountain/Four Seasons/Fox Trot
	Branagh's "Frankenstein" reminded me a lot of a TV movie called "Frankenstein: The True Story". One of the best Frankenstein films ever but quite hard to find. A stellar cast of James Mason, Jane Seymour, Ralph Richardson, John Giegud, Agnes Moorehead & Michael Sarrazin as the creature. I've heard rumors of an upcoming DVD release but I don't know how reliable they are, since they've been circulating for years. If you get the chance I highly recommend it.
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 11/13/06 8:58pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: Frasier; Frankenstein; Freaky Friday
	As soon as you realize that Frasier's going to be humiliated, you've got the plot. But some of the episodes are very funny. Branagh was just asking for it, casting DeNiro. I mean, get a grip.
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 11/14/06 8:56am Subject: RE: The Essentials: Frasier; Frankenstein; Freaky Friday
	Many of Frasier's old writers came back for the final season, and so there was a revival of sorts. The series finale is almost a clone of at least one old episode. -----signature----- Opposing Scrooge Economics since 2009
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The_Face Title: Ex-Manager Registered: Feb '03	Date Posted: 11/14/06 1:24pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: Frasier; Frankenstein; Freaky Friday
	Just read Frankenstein for class over the summer; very different from what most people know from the other versions. Striking book. Frasier was a good one. A particular episode stands out in my memory, in which Niles got far too involved in spelling bees, leading up to a climactic street-spelling. -----signature----- "Writing is a socially acceptable form of schizophrenia." - E.L. Doctorow
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Rogue1-and-a-half Title: Manager: Amphitheatre Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 11/17/06 8:24pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: Frasier; Frankenstein; Freaky Friday
	Free All Angels (2001) - Ash Appealing grunge rock with high energy, but melodies so catchy they burn in your head like firecrackers. Shining Light is full on trance pop and the raucous energy Pacific Palisades and Shark are as neo-punk as anything ever has been. Rollicking and brilliant. Free at Last (1992) - DC Talk An album probably even better than their most talked about album, Jesus Freak. Filled with accessible and witty hip hop (samples that occasionally make me laugh out loud). The title track is pure black gospel melded with funk hip hop. Freedom (2000) - Michael W. Smith Singer/Songwriter Smith finally produced his finest album and one of my personal top ten with this fantastic orchestral album. Music filled with deep longing, deep passion, melancholy and quiet dignity. Healing, he said, is in music and certainly it was never more true than of this album. The French Connection (1971) - William Friedken A powerhouse film, entertaining and chilling all at once. Hackman's performance is one of the great flawed heros of all time. By the time the credits roll, he's lost in his own obsession; it's a terrifying performance woven through a fantastic thriller. The El chase gets all the press; most people have forgotten what a great movie is wrapped around that chase. The Frenzy of Renown (1986) - Leo Braudy Braudy goes back through history in an effort to discover where our notions of fame come from; it's an exploration of the cult of celebrity before it was called that. From the roman emperors to the movie stars of the sixties and seventies, it's a look at the dark side of fame and power. Oh for an update; if it was a frenzy in 1986, it's a riot in 2006. -----signature----- Don't be a fool, don't be blind Heart of mine If you can't do the time, don't do the crime Heart of mine
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Zaz Title: Manager, The Ampitheatre Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 11/18/06 7:09pm Subject: RE: The Essentials: Free All Angels; Free At Last; Freedom!; The French Connection;The Frenzy of Re
	"The French Connection"'s plot is missing something that would make it explicable, but Hackman is tremendous. "The Frenzy of Renown" sounds very good, but I can't find a copy, dammit.
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