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TheBoogieMan
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RE: The Films of Alfred Hitchcock: Now Discussing "Juno and the Paycock"(1930)
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solojones posted:
but would never have been possible without Joseph Steffano taking Robert Bloch's crappy novel and turning it into a great script.
Speaking of which, Hitch had a unique approach to adaptation. He had two points of adaptation theory:
1. Only adapt novels that are little-known. This means that they can be ruthlessly changed as much as needed.
2. Read the novel once, and then write the screenplay.
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Darth-Stryphe
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Rebecca wasn't exactly little known, though.
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Zaz
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"Rebecca" was David Selznick's idea--the producer. At that time, Hitchcock was working for hire.
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Darth-Stryphe
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Still one of his best.
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TheBoogieMan
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Yes, I was waiting for someone to say that. Rebecca is the obvious exception to his theory of adaptation, and is probably one reason why he disliked the end result so much. Certainly the literal-translation of the opening scene with narration ("Last night I dreamt I went to Manderly again") is very un-Hitchcock. Especially considering that it is a flashback without a flashforward.
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I have heard, and I'm not saying this is true only that I've heard it, that he had his studio buy up all available copies of Bloch's Psycho, so that no one would get the book and therefore know the twist ending.
I don't know that it is true, but it certainly rings true for him.
Rear Window is another notable exception, probably because it's a short story. It's all right out of Woolrich's original work; they expanded it by adding the romantic subplot and deepening the detective's character, but I think everything from the story is pretty well in the movie, down to that climax in the darkened apartment which plays out only a hair differently.
A case of addition, but very little subtraction.
*stop skipping ahead, stop skipping ahead*
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TheBoogieMan
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Didn't the author of Rear Window have something to do with the making of the film? I seem to remember something like that from the "Making of" featurette on the DVD.
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Darth-Stryphe
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I don't think he did. Might be wrong, though.
Hitch hated Rebecca? I'm surprised. That movie was great.
So, while we're waiting for the next movie to be posted, as anyone actually seen Juno and the Paycock?
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TheBoogieMan
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I haven't seen Juno and the Paycock, no.
Yes, Hitch really disliked Rebecca. He even referred to it as not really a "Hitchcock" film, and regarded it as outside his body of work.
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Yeah, I don't think anyone has seen this movie I will update the thread when I get back from my massage.
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I've never heard of it. Is it mentioned in Donald Spoto's book on Hitchcock films?
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I don't know, I'm not familiar with that book... now to our next film.
Murder! (1930)
From IMDB:
An actress in a travelling theatre group is murdered and Diana Baring, another member of the group is found suffering from amnesia standing by the body. Diana is tried and convicted of the murder, but Sir John Menier a famous actor on the jury is convinced of her innocence. Sir John sets out to find the real murderer before Diana's death sentence is carried out.
Haven't seen it, but it's available on DVD in... some set Seems like pretty standard fair, though. Less subtle than Hitchcock's later work, which has the wonderful quality of an often normal premise at first that gets darker the deeper we see in.
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This sounds like a very interesting premise. Hitchcock was always interested in Murder.
I didn't realize he had made a movie simply titled with that word.
Solojones, I recommend the Spoto book. It's excellent. It's analysis of Vertigo is especially good.
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Haven't seen it, I even forgot it existed. The plot does sound interesting and very Hitchcock, but at the same time, as I said earlier, from what I've seen of his very early works I was not largely impressed, not enough so to hunt ones down I've not seen. I bought and watched Blackmail for its historical value more than anything. Rich and Strange was given to me.
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Zaz
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I haven't seen this one, either; it's very hard to find.
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